Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2005 Completely unrelated but how are the '86 Mets a "Cinderella story"? Those stupid ESPN Disney World commercials have Peter Gammons saying this. Is there a deleted scene in Cinderella where she does a lot of coke? lmao at that line great stuff dude anyhow, BUDDY GROOM? whats wrong with the yanks? I dont know much about him except he has a silly name. any info on him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2005 The Magglio Ordonez deal is atrociously bad, and would be even if there were no health concerns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2005 anyhow, BUDDY GROOM? whats wrong with the yanks? I dont know much about him except he has a silly name. any info on him? Buddy has a 4.03 ERA in 330 appearances with Baltimore from 2000-2004. At age 40, it's doubtful that Groom will make the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerangedHermit 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2005 anyhow, BUDDY GROOM? whats wrong with the yanks? I dont know much about him except he has a silly name. any info on him? Big whoop. Teams are always trying senior reclaimation projects (it's low risk, if he sucks - big whoop, if he's any good - what a bargain!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2005 Completely unrelated but how are the '86 Mets a "Cinderella story"? Those stupid ESPN Disney World commercials have Peter Gammons saying this. Is there a deleted scene in Cinderella where she does a lot of coke? lmao at that line great stuff dude anyhow, BUDDY GROOM? whats wrong with the yanks? I dont know much about him except he has a silly name. any info on him? Is it possible that Gammons said '69 Mets, which legitimately was a Cinderella story, and ABC/ESPN got freaked out and edited the phrase '69? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve J. Rogers 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2005 Completely unrelated but how are the '86 Mets a "Cinderella story"? Those stupid ESPN Disney World commercials have Peter Gammons saying this. Is there a deleted scene in Cinderella where she does a lot of coke? lmao at that line great stuff dude anyhow, BUDDY GROOM? whats wrong with the yanks? I dont know much about him except he has a silly name. any info on him? Is it possible that Gammons said '69 Mets, which legitimately was a Cinderella story, and ABC/ESPN got freaked out and edited the phrase '69? I'd go with that, but I think they were trying to tie in Peter's Boston connection Also in a sad way (sad in terms of the fact that it always seems to be the way the Mets are looked as) that 108 win juggernaut does tend to get looked upon as a bit "Cinderella-ish" when you consider the "luck" involved with winning key ballgames that postseason The Mets never do "roll" through postseasons, I think only twice in their history have they've even gone 2-0 in a series! (1969 NLCS against the Braves and the 2000 NLCS against the Cardinals) Its always "interesting" and the Mets always seem to be the team with some sort of "comeback magic" in them, hence why no matter how dominate the 86 team was, it will always be seen by "mainstream media" as a "Cinderella Story" Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2005 What I find funny is that the Mets really shouldn't have been considered a cinderella team in 1986. They led the NL in RS and RA and had a 205 run differential. 1969, they were definitely a miracle team. They were 9th in the NL in RS and 2nd in RA. So, while their pitching was dominant, their hitting was very suspect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2005 Thank god. I think at this point, Ramirez is the one guys on the offensive end of things that they can't let get away. I see some big things ahead of him if he's used correctly. "On the mound today, making his pitching debut, Aramis Ramirez!" Well, at least we know he could take a crack at closer if Dempster doesn't pan out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2005 Great quote by AJ Burnett in the Miami Herald today... He's talking about how disappointed he was with the contract offer he received from the Marlins... "I was hoping for the best, but expecting the worst. Hopefully when I start the season 9-0, they'll bring me another contract." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2005 Great quote by AJ Burnett in the Miami Herald today... He's talking about how disappointed he was with the contract offer he received from the Marlins... "I was hoping for the best, but expecting the worst. Hopefully when I start the season 9-0, they'll bring me another contract." Hah. The Marlins won't sign anybody under 30, apparently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJordan23 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2005 Great quote by AJ Burnett in the Miami Herald today... He's talking about how disappointed he was with the contract offer he received from the Marlins... "I was hoping for the best, but expecting the worst. Hopefully when I start the season 9-0, they'll bring me another contract." That's awesome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2005 Devil Rays hot stove news during the Super Bowl! http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=devi...ov=st&type=lgns ST PETERSBURG, Florida (Ticker) - The Tampa Bay Devil Rays on Sunday acquired lefthanded starter Casey Fossum from the Arizona Diamondbacks in exchange for outfielder Jose Cruz Jr. and cash considerations. Tampa Bay also signed free agent first baseman Travis Lee to a one-year contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted February 7, 2005 Mlb.com has superbowl updates. This bugs the crap out of me for some reason I can't explain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2005 Devil Rays hot stove news during the Super Bowl! http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=devi...ov=st&type=lgns ST PETERSBURG, Florida (Ticker) - The Tampa Bay Devil Rays on Sunday acquired lefthanded starter Casey Fossum from the Arizona Diamondbacks in exchange for outfielder Jose Cruz Jr. and cash considerations. Tampa Bay also signed free agent first baseman Travis Lee to a one-year contract. Wow. The D'backs raped the Devil Rays on that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheDon Report post Posted February 7, 2005 Are the Devil Rays still trying to trade Aubrey Huff. Or is that just speculation on the Cubs side? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2005 We have Burnitz as our lefty in right now, so I assume we don't want Huff or couldn't come up with something to trade for him. (I'd rather have Huff. Or Baldelli!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheDon Report post Posted February 7, 2005 Alot of teams would love to have Aubrey or Rocco. I think the mets should go after Huff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2005 Huff isn't Dominican so Minaya would put him on the backburner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2005 Why is that suck a good trade for the Rays? The only way I can see your point is the fact that Cruz is paid too much, and his talents don't back up his worth. From what I've seen, Fossum has never been able to live up to expectations in either Boston or Arizona. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2005 Why is that suck a good trade for the Rays? The only way I can see your point is the fact that Cruz is paid too much, and his talents don't back up his worth. From what I've seen, Fossum has never been able to live up to expectations in either Boston or Arizona. My post implied that it was a good trade for the D'backs, not the Devil Rays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2005 Why was it a good trade for D'Backs? Cruz has .336 career OB%, and .455 slugging. He'll hit 20-25 Hr's 75-80 bi's when healthy. Fossum's an underachiever, but I wouldn't call this even a good trade for Arizona. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted February 7, 2005 Cruz is at least useable, Fossum is crap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2005 Why was it a good trade for D'Backs? Cruz has .336 career OB%, and .455 slugging. He'll hit 20-25 Hr's 75-80 bi's when healthy. Fossum's an underachiever, but I wouldn't call this even a good trade for Arizona. Fossum needed a change of scenery. He was ineffective for the Diamondbacks. In return for Fossum, the D'backs get a player who is capable with the bat, and can play center field, or left if Gonzo isn't ready for opening day. Cruz may carry a slightly above average bat, but when you lose 111 games, you learn to appreciate those average players.` Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2005 Whoops, my bad. So who in the hell do the Rays have in their lineup now? Huff, Crawford, Lugo, and Upton? Can't make Lou happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2005 Whoops, my bad. So who in the hell do the Rays have in their lineup now? Huff, Crawford, Lugo, and Upton? Can't make Lou happy. Let's see. C- Kevin Cash/Toby Hall 1B- Travis Lee 2B- Roberto Alomar/Jorge Cantu SS- Julio Lugo 3B- B.J. Upton/Alex Gonzalez LF- Danny Bautista (Rocco Baldelli is out until around June) CF- Carl Crawford RF- Aubrey Huff DH- Eduardo Perez/Josh Phelps Starting Rotation (pick five)- Casey Fossum, Hideo Nomo, Denny Neagle, Doug Waechter, Scott Kazmir, Rob Bell, Mark Hendrickson, Seth McClung, Dewon Brazleton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2005 I figure the rotation will likely be Fossum, Nomo, Bell, Kazmir, and Brazelton. Hendrickson could move to the bullpen or take Nomo's spot and Nomo could move to the bullpen instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2005 Wouldn't Alex Gonzalez be a backup at SS, Al? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Man in Blak 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2005 Nope - when they signed him, they said that he'd be holding down third base. Remember - this is the Devil Rays we're talking about here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2005 I hope he commits a hundred errors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfaJack 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2005 Isn't it enough that's he sentenced to a summer with the Devil Rays, Czech? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites