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Cubs signed SS Neifi Perez to a $1 milllion one year contract

 

Tigers exercised $4 million option on Ugueth Urbina

 

Lance Berkman tears knee ligament, and could be out for the season.

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I read something about Rocco Baldelli also potentially tearing something playing a friendly game of baseball with his brother and some friends. It was in the Daily Quickie this morning but I haven't seen anything else.

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Picked this up at fanball.com

 

Alfonso Soriano could be a Bronx Bomber once again. The Yankees have talked to the Rangers about acquiring Soriano for pitcher Javier Vazquez, a source told the New York Times.

Second base is not the important issue right now.

 

Ugh. Javy Vazquez would be an utter disaster at Texas.
As opposed to the successful season here.

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Lance Berkman tears knee ligament, and could be out for the season.

 

ESPN.com reports 5-6 months. In any case, the Astros are lost without Berkman, so they need him back.

Whoops your right, for some reason i thought it said may miss season even though it said start of the season.

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Yankees declined the Lieber option. Hopefully they'll resign him and avoid Milton like the plague.

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Lance Berkman tears knee ligament, and could be out for the season.

 

ESPN.com reports 5-6 months. In any case, the Astros are lost without Berkman, so they need him back.

Whoops your right, for some reason i thought it said may miss season even though it said start of the season.

They could have updated the story after the initial report. That happens quite often.

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I read something about Rocco Baldelli also potentially tearing something playing a friendly game of baseball with his brother and some friends. It was in the Daily Quickie this morning but I haven't seen anything else.

I saw this in the Providence Journal today. He hurt his left knee playing baseball with his brother, and underwent surgery today. They haven't said how serious the injury was, but I guess if it needed surgery, it wasn't something he could walk off.

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ST. PETERSBURG, Florida (Ticker) - Tampa Bay Devil Rays center fielder Rocco Baldelli underwent surgery Friday to repair a torn ACL in his left knee and is expected to miss at least six months.

 

Baldelli, who completed his second season with the Devil Rays, suffered the injury October 24 while playing baseball with younger brother, Dante, at his home in Cumberland, Rhode Island.

 

"While I was playing with my brother, I jammed my leg," Baldelli said. "At the time, I didn't think much of it. I iced it for a few days, but it didn't get any better. Now we will just have to wait and see."

 

The surgery was performed in Vail, Colorado by orthopedist Dr. Richard Steadman of the Steadman-Hawkins Clinic.

 

Devil Rays trainer Ken Crenshaw believes Baldelli will be able to resume baseball activities in six to nine months.

 

"There was concern that Rocco had torn the meniscus in the knee, but there was no tear and the bruising on the end of the bone was not as severe as first thought," Crenshaw said. "Given Rocco's outstanding work ethic, we are optimistic he will make a full recovery."

 

Baldelli spent two weeks of the 2004 season on the disabled list with a strained right quadriceps that bothered him most of the year. He overcame the injury to bat .280 with 16 homers and 74 RBI.

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I'd rather have him than Eric Milton.

 

And he seems to have a ton of success against the Sox. To me, its a no brainer. Lieber was very good the 2nd half of the season.

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The fact that he was the yankees best starter down the stretch and went 5-0 with a 3.12 in that time. Also he pitched very well in the playoffs, it shows he can handle the pressure in NY.

 

That should be enough to warrent being resigned by the yankees.

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The fact that he was the yankees best starter down the stretch and went 5-0 with a 3.12 in that time. Also he pitched very well in the playoffs, it shows he can handle the pressure in NY.

 

That should be enough to warrent being resigned by the yankees.

The Pedro game alone warranted a resigning. The effort against Schilling cemented it.

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Alright, Al.

 

Lets say they don't sign Lieber. And lets say the Yankees get either RJ or Pavano, and Milton or Radke or Wells.

 

That leaves the rotation as RJ/Pavano, Milton/Radke/Wells, Vazquez (if they don't trade him) Mussina, and ???.

 

And we might not get RJ or Pavano. And I'd take Lieber over Milton and Radke anyday of the week. Wells is on his last legs. I just don't see how, considering how well he pitched in the 2nd half, and being a playoff savior, not sign him.

 

Although, we said that about Pettite last year, and look what happened.

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Pettite's arm fell off is what happened.

 

this may just be me, but I like Radke a lot. I'd happily take him on the Sox, although not getting to face the Sox anymore could easily add a run to his ERA.

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Alright, Al.

 

Lets say they don't sign Lieber. And lets say the Yankees get either RJ or Pavano, and Milton or Radke or Wells.

 

That leaves the rotation as RJ/Pavano, Milton/Radke/Wells, Vazquez (if they don't trade him) Mussina, and ???.

 

And we might not get RJ or Pavano. And I'd take Lieber over Milton and Radke anyday of the week. Wells is on his last legs. I just don't see how, considering how well he pitched in the 2nd half, and being a playoff savior, not sign him.

 

Although, we said that about Pettite last year, and look what happened.

Please understand I am not saying Lieber isn't a good pitcher. He is. But he is not a vital piece of the Yankees. I would take him over Milton, and I might take him over Wells. I certainly wouldn't take him over Radke, who has better control, more strikeouts, and less of an injury history.

 

You also have to consider Lieber's history. How wise is it to make a judgement on a pitcher based on two months performance? Lieber had a 104 ERA+ this season. That also happens to be his career mark. That puts him about average. Could the Yankees use him? Of course. But if they don't resign him, they'll be fine, as long as they find a suitable replacement.

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Pettite's arm fell off is what happened.

 

this may just be me, but I like Radke a lot. I'd happily take him on the Sox, although not getting to face the Sox anymore could easily add a run to his ERA.

The Sox usually have good hitting. Their pitching is what kills them.

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I could be wrong, but aren't both Radke and Lieber's BB/K ratio absurd?

 

To me, Liebers at his best, can be more of a dominant pitcher. Maybe I haven't seen enough of Radke, but we've never had a problem hitting him. And I just can't see him shutting down the Red Sox in October.

 

Has Lieber ever had any arm problems before he had tommy john surgery? And its not like hes never been successful, he won 20 games in his last full season.

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Lieber has been a solid starter but Radke is definently better. Only Johan Santana and Curt Schilling had better years than Radke in the A.L. this year.

 

Just a couple of statistical comparrisons. Lieber debuted in '94, Radke '95.

 

ERA+ (Radke/Lieber)

 

1994: Minors/117

1995: 89/69

1996: 115/110

1997: 121/96

1998: 109/105

1999: 135/119

2000: 118/97

2001: 115/111

2002: 94/109

2003: 103/injured

2004: 136/104

 

VORP (Radke/Lieber)

 

1994: Minors/7.0

1995: 15.8/-10.0

1996: 49.4/21.1

1997: 49.1/17.0

1998: 39.9/14.8

1999: 63.8/32.7

2000: 48.6/45.4

2001: 47.1/47.1

2002: 14.7/22.2

2003: 32.8/injured

2004: 60.1/27.3

 

Only 2002 has Lieber been definently better than Radke and they were about even in 2001. Also Radke is three years younger than Lieber and one of the most durable pitchers in baseball.

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Girardi might be bench coach. That could be REALLY good, as I think he's the successor to Torre.

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Yanks decline option on Lieber

http://nypost.com/sports/yankees/31793.htm

The club believes Lieber, who was very effective in the second half and in the postseason, isn't worth $8 million for the 2005 season, but would like to sign him to a two-year deal in the $11 million to $12 million range.

 

That may be appealing to Lieber, but as agent Rex Gary explained Thursday, the climate of negotiations changes since other teams will have a chance to woo the 34-year-old Lieber. Expect the Mets, Red Sox and Rangers to be among the lengthy list of teams showing interest.

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