DerangedHermit 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 It's a shame Anglesault isn't around. We would LOVE to see his opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 The Carlos Delgado era is officially over in Toronto. No surprise, as Delgado would've earned at least $15.2 Mil in arbitration. Also, the Enrique Wilson era is officially over in New York. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Almost missed this one. The Phillies declined to offer arbitration to Eric Milton, so he is gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Kamala 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Bah forget about the Yankees signing Jaret Wright...how about the Yankees signing the immortal Tony Womack? $4 million for two years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 I am just thankful the Phillies offered Doug Glanville arbitration (is it possible for an arbitrator to rule below the league minimum?). And I know Jayson Stark is so he will still have material for his column. Remember kiddies, being popular with the sportswriters > ability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Tony Womack is about to become the new Kenny Lofton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 The Braves declined arbitration on JD Drew which is pretty stupid. Ortiz is also gone- but good riddance. He sucked anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strummer 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 It's official, Al Leiter is a Marlin http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/transactions http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/...s_fla&fext=.jsp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Have the Cubs even made a formal offer to Carlos Beltran yet? This is getting silly. We need him in the outfield. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 You guys are hating on Leiter a bit too much, especially Al, which I'm surprised at. At 38, he was 8th in the NL in ERA last year. He's only going to be the 4 and he can offer more guidance to the Marlins young staff. For the majority of last season, the oldest pitcher on the staff was Brad Penny. Super extra bonus: Starting next season, the Marlins will have one of the best color announcers in baseball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted December 8, 2004 The Braves declined arbitration on JD Drew which is pretty stuipid. Ortiz is also gone- but good riddance. He sucked anyway FUCK we didn't offer to Drew? Damnit and I thought last off season was bad. This one isn't looking any better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Man in Blak 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Oh thank goodness, the Cardinals keep Matt Morris. I mean that. Of course you do. Actually, I think it's a tremendous move by the Cardinals. At $2.5 million a year, Matt Morris is a much more reasonable gamble than, say, Cory Lidle, even with the health issues. Plus, with a one year contract, Morris now has the avenue and the proper motivation to prove himself to other free agent suitors next year. I applaud Morris for taking a much-deserved pay cut while staying loyal to the organization that brought him up. The Tony Womack signing, however, is pretty damn hilarious. I'm not going to say that Womack can't perform at the level he achieved in 2004, but the odds of him doing so - given his age, injury history, and career performance - are slim to none. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 The Braves declined arbitration on JD Drew which is pretty stuipid. We're calling Scott Boras' bluff and seeing what offers are actually out there for Drew. For all we know, the market on high-priced injury-prone outfielders are shallow. Especially ones seeking 5-7 years as Boras stated. He did this ploy with Maddux last year -- let's see it happen again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Does Womack still have decent speed? So they just signed a clutch punter and pinch runner. Perhaps the Yankees want to add some small ball off the bench? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 The Braves declined arbitration on JD Drew which is pretty stuipid. We're calling Scott Boras' bluff and seeing what offers are actually out there for Drew. For all we know, the market on high-priced injury-prone outfielders are shallow. Especially ones seeking 5-7 years as Boras stated. He did this ploy with Maddux last year -- let's see it happen again. Yea- and Maddux left. Which sucks. And by declining to offer arbitration Drew is gone as well. Ortiz and Alfonseca were expendable but they should've done everything to keep Drew. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Have the Cubs even made a formal offer to Carlos Beltran yet? This is getting silly. We need him in the outfield. Not gonna happen. Nomar resigning and the slim chance of dumping Sosa solidifies that. He's gonna be New York-bound, if he goes anywhere else. I'm fine with that as long as he gets the hell out of the NL Central. I would like to see the Cubs go after a good outfielder, though, since there is a hole in leftfield at the moment. If not, I guess it's hello Jason Dubois. Honestly, their pen needs the most work. The tools for the offense are all there, it's just a matter of the dumb fucks in charge knowing how to utilize them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Alot of interesting players not offered arbitration Jeff Kent, JD Drew, Magglio Ordonez, Steve Finley, etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Phillies are close to signing Lieber. *sigh* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted December 8, 2004 According to Gammons on ESPN Radio the Red Sox sign RHP Matt Mantai to a one year deal. Dunno the cash but its suppose to be low. If this is true then its a great signing. Low risk, high reward. Edit: Here's the official thing from rotoworld ESPNews reports that the Red Sox have agreed to terms with Matt Mantei on a one-year deal. Since he's surely coming cheap, Mantei is a pretty good risk. Odds are he'll miss a good chunk of the season with one ailment or another, but he'll also probably be effective when healthy. In other words, Boston has found its replacement for Scott Williamson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posada20 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Phillies are close to signing Lieber. *sigh* It's official: http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/phi/news/phi...r_phi&fext=.jsp Now if the Yankees get the scrub Eric Milton it's basically a bad trade. Oh and may Lieber's arm fall off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Is it me, or do the Yankees LOVE not sigining pitchers who basically saved their asses in the playoffs? First Pettite, now Lieber. Unless we get Pavano, this offseason is a disaster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted December 8, 2004 expect disaster then because Pavano will not be headed to NY. Once the Yanks make the Milton thing official their rotation is set. Nobody will take Kevin Brown off their hands, especially since he was added to the list of steroid takers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Have the Cubs even made a formal offer to Carlos Beltran yet? This is getting silly. We need him in the outfield. Not gonna happen. Nomar resigning and the slim chance of dumping Sosa solidifies that. He's gonna be New York-bound, if he goes anywhere else. I'm fine with that as long as he gets the hell out of the NL Central. I would like to see the Cubs go after a good outfielder, though, since there is a hole in leftfield at the moment. If not, I guess it's hello Jason Dubois. Honestly, their pen needs the most work. The tools for the offense are all there, it's just a matter of the dumb fucks in charge knowing how to utilize them. I'm still optimistic. After all, I'm a Cubs fan. And I know that he'll be out of the NL Central if he's not on the North Side: Houston is ruled out by its roof, St. Louis by its payroll constraints, and the other three by common fucking sense. He should do the right thing and come to Chicago. Also, we should take Kyle Farnsworth, drive out to, oh, I don't know, the Quad Cities, and leave him there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Poor White Sox fans: CHICAGO (AP) -- Pitcher Dustin Hermanson and the Chicago White Sox agreed Wednesday on a two-year, $5.5 million contract that contains a club option for 2007. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Watch the fuck out, Comedy Central: Dustin Hermanson. Hey, forget taking Kyle Farnsworth all the way out to the Quad Cities, that wastes gas. Can we just drop him off outside Comiskey? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Ugh. You'd think the Yanks would offer Cairo arbitration. I would have liked to see a Cairo/Womack platoon. They have to sign another 2nd baseman to even this out; Womack really isn't an everyday player. He would have been perfect coming off the bench though. They have to look at Craig Counsell with Enrique gone, that would be a huge upgrade. I like the Jaret signing because he's still about 28-29, and he has postseason experience (pitched game a 7, last year too). Hopefully last year wasn't a fluke. He didn't have the best strikeout/walk ratio, not the worse either, but he did strike out quite a few and didn't allow too many hits. Crossing my fingers in hoping that he doesn't turn into this year's Vazquez. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Dustin Hermanson?! Fuck this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 You guys are hating on Leiter a bit too much, especially Al, which I'm surprised at. At 38, he was 8th in the NL in ERA last year. He's only going to be the 4 and he can offer more guidance to the Marlins young staff. For the majority of last season, the oldest pitcher on the staff was Brad Penny. Super extra bonus: Starting next season, the Marlins will have one of the best color announcers in baseball. Leiter's strikeouts the last three years have gone 172, 139, to 117. That is not a good sign. Leiter barely struck out more batters than he walked. That is a serious red flag. Most of his value came from his low rate of hits. Pitchers just cannot maintain that kind of luck without a high strikeout rate. If I had to pick a list of five pitchers on a collapse list, Leiter is one of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted December 9, 2004 Not to mention Leiter is often over 100 pitches in the 5th inning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2004 That's a good point, Al. I didn't check the DIPS on Leiter. The way I look at it though, he's offering a lot more than just his pitching. He can mentor the young staff, most importantly Willis, as they are both lefties. As I mentioned, he is going to be the #4, #5 if a miracle occurs and they keep Pavano, or even if they get another FA. Price wasn't insane... I'm happy with the signing, to be honest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites