The Incredibles: Best Pixar film yet.

[Guest Shutterspeed]

The parodies contained in Shrek were one of the reasons for its success and charm, so as a result of this, they figured that it was an obligation to provide a flood of them with Shrek 2, and yeah, they did go overboard.

[Mole 0]

It has a 97% fresh rating at rottentomatoes.com.

 

That is the highest rating I've ever seen.

[Guest Shutterspeed]

I saw 100% for something in a recent newsletter.

[Downhome 0]

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/michael_moore_hates_america/

 

 

And yes, I know this one shouldn't count since it only has five reviews. I just love the fact that, for right now at least, a film called Michael Moore Hates America has a 100% score.

[bob_barron 0]

A bunch of movies have gotten 100% including Toy Story which I don't understand at all.

 

What killed Shrek 2 for me was not the parodies, because the COPS parody was really funny, but just the middle portion where Shrek got the makeover and wondered if Fiona liked him- it was so boring and just not funny. Shrek 3 should mostly ditch Fiona and make it Shrek and Donkey.

 

Harry Potter and Shrek should've switched places

[bob_barron 0]

It looks like The Incredibles is going to open to around 60 million

[Guest Shutterspeed]

What killed Shrek 2 for me was not the parodies, because the COPS parody was really funny, but just the middle portion where Shrek got the makeover and wondered if Fiona liked him- it was so boring and just not funny. Shrek 3 should mostly ditch Fiona and make it Shrek and Donkey.

They just have to balance out the adult humour with the cutesy kids content. I'm sure there's a happy medium, but there's some level of cutesy kids content expected.

 

While it's nice for The Incredibles to be a little more adult-oriented, Pixar would want to be careful, because they *don't* want a reputation as a company that tailors its films for an adult audience.

 

Bob, I can understand Toy Story getting 100% - it really is hard to find something wrong with it. That alone has to say something about its sequel, which betters it.

[The Amazing Rando 0]

When I first thought of them going for a Shrek 3, the first idea that popped into my mind was...

 

...well, they covered love, and marriage...and so all that's left is the baby carriage.

 

That's right boys and girls, KIDS!

 

I expect them to do some Harry Potter jokes as they put a kid through a fairy-tale like school, featuring child versions of the more famous fairy tales and others...a kiddy Puss In Boots (with a Ms. Boots), Donkey and Dragon's kids, and maybe a teeny Gingerbread Boy could make for a fun little group.

 

The storyline? Hmmm... Prince Charming is still around right? He could be all about kidnapping the kids to get to Shrek/Fiona to axe them.

[Guest Shutterspeed]

Kids would open up a lot of doors as far as an interesting storyline and jokes that are actually funny goes, and if done properly, could rival, if not better the first film.

 

But even so, they should just end it there.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

Easily my favourite Disney film in years. Am I the only one who thinks that this will destroy the real Fantastic Four film next year?

[EricMM 0]

What is Disney going to do for animated features when Pixar leaves?

[bob_barron 0]

Go back to in house and do their own computer animation.

 

After Home on the Range traditional animation is pretty much dead

[Guest Shutterspeed]

After Home on the Range traditional animation is pretty much dead

It's still required for the odd kids cartoon every few years.

[DMann2003 0]

Go back to in house and do their own computer animation.

 

After Home on the Range traditional animation is pretty much dead

That's what "Chicken Little" is, Disney's first in-house fully CG Animated feature, after the quasi-experiment that was "Dinosaur"

 

Anybody see the trailer for "Robots", it's from the guys who did "Ice Age", looks pretty cool- But "Madagascar", from the Shrek/Shark group looks plain odd.

[Guest Shutterspeed]

I saw the trailer for Madagascar on the Shrek 2 DVD. It looks somewhat unoriginal, but fucking excellent nevertheless.

[Guest SP-1]

Yeah, I actually liked the Madigascar trailer. It could be pretty funny.

[Guest SP-1]

As for the Incredibles:

 

I really, really liked it. I thought it handled the issue of identity really well, and I REALLY liked the emphasis on family unity and relationships. I especially liked Bob's relationship with Dash, and Helen's relationship with the daughter. It was just done really well and I was glad to see those things emphasized.

[Downhome 0]

When I watched the film I totally checked my brain at the door, and did not even notice the details of the family's powers that were mentioned on a recent E! special on The Incredibles.

 

The Father: Traditionally the symbol of Strength so naturally he has superhuman strength.

 

The Mother: Ever hear of mothers feel like they're being "pulled in several different directions"?

 

The Little Son: Ever seen a hyper kid?

 

The Goth/Loner Daughter: "Invisibility" and "Force Field Protection" are two real life defense mechanisms that real kids use at that age.

 

Superpowers that reflects social realities. Better and more inventive than giving superpowers to a character just because it sounds cool.

[Nighthawk 0]

Downhome... invisibilty and force fields aren't real.

[Skywarp! 0]

I liked how the family life was realistic. Except for Dash in the jungle, this was not the eye-candy for children that it was marketed as. This was animation for adults. Very real things that carried very real weights happened in this movie. I loved it.

 

And you know what? This proves that lowest-common demominator entertainment doesn't need to be made for kids. They were quiet. They didn't get bored. They absorbed every minute without chatter. Every gag doesn't need to be test audience approved and dumbed down, people. The audience will rise to the movie! That's what other kid-targeted entertainment doesn't get: they underestimate the kids.

 

Here's a good interview with the creator: http://www.theonionavclub.com/feature/index.php?issue=4044

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Loved it.

 

Best Pixar Film I've seen. Nemo had more heart, but I thought this was better all-round. Great structuring, and Sindrome is one of the best villains ever... or at the very least, has the best reason for being bad. Great voicing by Craig T Nelson and Holly Hunter, my only problem is not enough Sam Jackson. The best Superhero movie I've seen, smoking Spiderman 2 and Unbreakable. The Cape thing was fantastic. The Pulp Fiction parody and all of the subtle stuff they put it (rather than Shrek and specifically Shrek 2 putting lights and pointers around theirs) was great. Great, Great, Great, Great.

 

This is not a kids movie. It deals with parenthood, responsibility and mid-life crisises. And they kill people in it!

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

The Incredibles had a much better story than either Shrek film, but clearly Dreamworks has Pixar nailed with the quality of the animation. Im kinda guessing that Disney wanted it to still look kind of "cartoony" but there were several points where it looked horrible. One of the best examples of this was when the mother and kids landed in the ocean. When they popped up out of the water, they sort of looked like wet clay models. Pixar did a better job stylizing the movie but it still didn't look as nice as Shrek 2 (or even the original Shrek for that matter). I guess after Pixar splits from Disney they might be able to improve the animation, but they'll still be way behind Dreamworks for awhile.

 

The ending clearly left it open for a sequel but I think I read that Disney will retain the rights to any sequels which pretty much means it will suck.

[Slayer 0]

Bump

 

I avoided this thread until I saw the movie, and yet was unsurprised that over 75% of the thread was about OTHER animated movies...

 

As for the movie itself...

 

Goods:

 

- Animation quality, what can I say (especially, as someone noted earlier, the little things, like hair detail)

 

- Nice intermingling of dark heavy plot with the light-hearted humor. Definitely not a pure kiddy film.

 

- The jungle chase with Dash came off as a nice tribute to the speeder bike chase in Return of the Jedi

 

Bads:

 

- I didn't care much for the dark goth daughter, but thankfully her role was fairly limited anyway

 

- NOT ENOUGH SAMUEL JACKSON.

[Guest SP-1]

I wouldn't say Violet was goth so much as the most damaged insofar as her personal identity. Which is more or less the core of the film, really.

[Guest subliminal_animal]

I saw this movie and hated it, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised all of you are in love over here.

[Slayer 0]

I wouldn't say Violet was goth

Close enough

 

Stereotyping is fun