WCW facts, tidbits, and stuff people forgot

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Was Bret Hart really injured in early 1999 when he jobbed the U.S title to Piper?

 

He had a legit groin injury that was bothering him since late November hence why he didn't have a match at Starrcade 98 even though he was the US Champion.

[Guest Astro]

Gordon Solie's HOF induction in 94/95 whatever was played up on screen as a surprise. This was not the case as Solie knew full well he was getting the award, but didn't want it--- WCW had inducted Big John Studd that same year and Solie felt it was just because he was a new famous death, and not because Studd had any sort of HOF career, Solie actually raised quite a fit about the whole deal....

 

----He felt it cheapened the HOF at a whole

[King Kamala 0]

What was up with the whole WCW New Year's Evil card on New Years Eve 1999, where WCW expected to pack the Houston AstroDome with a Vampiro-The Demon main event? Were there any other planned matches for the show besides the aforementioned Vampiro-Demon match?

[Guest fanofcoils]

When did Kamala leave WCW?

[BUTT 0]

What was up with the whole WCW New Year's Evil card on New Years Eve 1999, where WCW expected to pack the Houston AstroDome with a Vampiro-The Demon main event? Were there any other planned matches for the show besides the aforementioned Vampiro-Demon match?

I think there was also supposed to be a KISS concert there.

[King Kamala 0]

Now I remember that part but still the AstroDome is a 70,000 plus venue. There's no way a seriously fledging WCW with KISS, who's stock was starting to fall a bit could fill the AstroDome or even 30,000 seats. Even, WCW wasn't stupid enough to go through with it.

[Jericholic82 0]

When did Kamala leave WCW?

after Fall Brawl 95 Kamala was in that ppvs main event a war games match with the DOD vs Hogan, Sting, Savage, and Luger, but dissapeared from WCW tv shortly thereafter. Kamala did nothing of note in his wcw tenure except beating Jim Duggan at Bash at The beach 95 and facing hogan on a wcw main event show the same day as clash of the champions august 95

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

Did WCW ever have negotiations to bring Hennig or Warrior in in 1994? I seem to recall a lot of name dropping leading up to a Clash match between Hogan/Flair, where Flair promised both the Ultimate Surprise and the PErfect Surprise... then it ended up being a masked Double A (I think), who in the storyline ended up being Brutus. That was weak.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Yeah they tried to grab Warrior after Hogan came in but they ended up settling for Renegade.

[deancoles 0]

Got some questions on the Bill Watts era, most of these questions are based on watching wcw classics which is almost up to September 92 but sadly has about 3 shows left before it's cancelled.

 

Was he planning to have a Rude/Simmons Starrcade match? I ask because on worldwide they're building up a US Title vs. World Title feud.

 

Did the Barbarian and Barry Windham ever have a singles match against each other? They've had Barbarian knock out Windham with his Big Boot in a 6 man tag match and seem to be starting a feud.

 

What was the on screen explanation for Paul E. Dangerously losing most of his wrestlers, I think he only manages Austin at the Moment.

 

Why was Cactus Jack getting wins over Ricky Steamboat and Dustin Rhodes? was Watts going to feed him to Simmons?

 

When did Erik Watts debut? We've seen him sitting in the crowd and training with Rhodes and Windham but he hasn't wrestled yet.

[BUTT 0]

Was he planning to have a Rude/Simmons Starrcade match? I ask because on worldwide they're building up a US Title vs. World Title feud.

They did plan to do a Simmons/Rude match at Starrcade, and in fact it was the advertised main event, I believe, right up until the show. However, Rude got injured and was replaced by Steve Williams.

[BUTT 0]

Now I remember that part but still the AstroDome is a 70,000 plus venue. There's no way a seriously fledging WCW with KISS, who's stock was starting to fall a bit could fill the AstroDome or even 30,000 seats. Even, WCW wasn't stupid enough to go through with it.

Well, the New Year's Eve PPV was a Bischoff idea, and we know how much he loves celebrities and spending big money. Once Bill Busch took over WCW, the PPV was cancelled.

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

Got some questions on the Bill Watts era, most of these questions are based on watching wcw classics which is almost up to September 92 but sadly has about 3 shows left before it's cancelled.

 

Was he planning to have a Rude/Simmons Starrcade match? I ask because on worldwide they're building up a US Title vs. World Title feud.

 

Did the Barbarian and Barry Windham ever have a singles match against each other? They've had Barbarian knock out Windham with his Big Boot in a 6 man tag match and seem to be starting a feud.

 

What was the on screen explanation for Paul E. Dangerously losing most of his wrestlers, I think he only manages Austin at the Moment.

 

Why was Cactus Jack getting wins over Ricky Steamboat and Dustin Rhodes? was Watts going to feed him to Simmons?

 

When did Erik Watts debut? We've seen him sitting in the crowd and training with Rhodes and Windham but he hasn't wrestled yet.

1. I believe Ron Simmons vs. Rick Rude for the WCW title was the original advertised main event for Starrcade 92. Frankly I don't even remember what it ended up being, but I'm pretty sure it got changed.

 

4. Ron Simmons vs Cactus Jack was the WCW Title match at Halloween Havoc 92.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Ron Simmons wound up wrestling Steve Williams instead of Rude. The finish was a DCO or a DDQ, which the crowd hated. What they hated more was when Williams kept attacking Simmons, the referee changed the decision to a DQ win for Simmons.

 

And Simmons wrestled The Barbarian at HH '92. He faced Jack at Clash XX.

[Guest dreamer420]

Didn't Master P claim that he could get WCW to sell out the Superdome.?

[King Kamala 0]

Yeah and I don't think they had MAYBE 15,000 people there which wouldn't have even sold out the New Orleans Arena (New Orleans basketball arena).

 

WCW never really had a HOLY SHIT the crowd is huge show (Besides the Nitro with Hogan-Goldberg at the Georgia Dome) even during there peak they ran in arenas instead of stadiums.

 

Here's a question for you Canadains, was WCW ever the #1 wrestling promotion in Canada? Even when WCW was superhot, they didn't run in Canada that much and the crowd at Candian Stampede in 97 was superhot. I can only remember two WCW PPVs in Canada and they were both well after WCW's peak.

[Jericholic82 0]

Got some questions on the Bill Watts era, most of these questions are based on watching wcw classics which is almost up to September 92 but sadly has about 3 shows left before it's cancelled.

 

Was he planning to have a Rude/Simmons Starrcade match? I ask because on worldwide they're building up a US Title vs. World Title feud.

 

Did the Barbarian and Barry Windham ever have a singles match against each other? They've had Barbarian knock out Windham with his Big Boot in a 6 man tag match and seem to be starting a feud.

 

What was the on screen explanation for Paul E. Dangerously losing most of his wrestlers, I think he only manages Austin at the Moment.

 

Why was Cactus Jack getting wins over Ricky Steamboat and Dustin Rhodes? was Watts going to feed him to Simmons?

 

When did Erik Watts debut? We've seen him sitting in the crowd and training with Rhodes and Windham but he hasn't wrestled yet.

I got an answer for your Heyman question

 

The Dangerous alliance angle basically came to an end after the wrestlewar 92 ppv war games match. Larry Zybysko accidentally hit Bobby Eaton with a turnbuckle and cost them the match. so Larry was kicked out. Eaton and Anderson had already lost the tag titles so they soon stopped teaming. Paul was left with austin and madusa. austin lost the tv title to ricky steamboat at the clash xx. madusa got sick of heymans attitude so they had a short feud including a boxing match sometime. I dont remember when Paul left though, probably the end of 92

 

barbarian and butch reed defeated windham and dustin rhodes at clash xx, cactus jack did commentary on the match (despite being in extreme pain from a torn abdominal muscle in his earlier match with simmons) and jake roberts was shown nodding after the match. this was leading to a supposed stable of reed, barb, cactus, and jake. But reed got fired really quick and cactus jack managed barb for his world title match at havoc. jack attempted to interfere with the snake in the havoc match between sting and jake, but it backfired.

 

 

So no barb and windham had no real feud. I remeber that setup though. soon after windham and rhodes won the unified tag titles from Gordy/williams and later lost them at clash XI to ricky steamboat and shane douglas and after the match windham turned heel on Dustin.

 

ahh memories. I actually became a big windham mark in 92 (still remember jumping out of my chair when he beat austin for the tv title in a 2/3 falls match on wcw sat night) and was heartbroken when my hero went bad ahh to be a mark again.....

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

Here's a question for you Canadains, was WCW ever the #1 wrestling promotion in Canada?

 

No, it was always WWF up here, although I personally liked WCW better from 1996-1998.

[The Mandarin 0]

Here's a question for you Canadains, was WCW ever the #1 wrestling promotion in Canada?

I did see a lot more nWo Wolfpac shirts than Austin shirts, but at school, discussions of WCW were pretty tame to that of WWF.

 

WCW forever lost the war over my interest when they murdered the Sting/Hogan angle.

[Epic Reine 0]

At Bash at the Beach '97 it was slated to be Scott Hall and Randy Savage to face DDP and a mystery partner. DDP was cuting a promo on Nitro and said that he has a mystery partner and while looking up at the sky he said "and everyone knows who he is" which led everyone ot believe it was Sting but then BOTB came and his partner was Curt Hennig. Any particular reason why Sting wasn't used?

[Placebo Effect 0]

From DDT Digest:

 

DDP and Kim (in a bikini top... hotttt) interviewed by Gene-O.

DDP said he and Curt Hennig met six months ago and that DDP realized he and Hennig had a lot in common.

DDP said his first choice as his partner for last night's PPV was Sting. However, he said that he's been bailed out so many times by Sting and he didn't even want to go there.

Choice number two: Lex Luger or the Giant. They had other problems last night.

Choice three: Hennig. He then said that he doesn't get mad, but gets even.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Jim Herd wanted Ric Flair to shave his hair, wear an ear ring, carry a shield, and be called Spartacus.

[Guest Loss]

I couldn't find the original question, but someone asked why there was no War Games at Fall Brawl '99. This was a matter of logistics, as they didn't have room to put two rings in the arena, based on the way tickets had already been sold. It was a matter of poor pre-planning.

[King Kamala 0]

If there had been a WarGames at FallBrawl 99, who do you think would have been in it?

 

My most logical guess would be;

 

The Hulkamaniacs (Hulk Hogan, Sting, Goldberg, Bret Hart, Chris Benoit)

Vs

The Millenium Men (DDP, Sid, Rick Steiner, Lex Luger and mystery partner)

 

The mystery partner would have been the turning Sting, I guess. Do you think Benoit, Bret Hart and DDP could have carried the other seven stiffs in the match? My answer is no, look up half assing it and you see a picture of Bret Hart in WCW (There were a few exceptions I'll admit).

[alfdogg 0]

I don't know that Hogan and Benoit would have done a match together, even as teammates.

[King Kamala 0]

Yeah, but who else was there in terms of babyfaces in WCW on the roster at the time? And it's a WarGames match, they don't neccessarily even have to acknowledge each other really.

 

And besides on the 1/25/99 Nitro, the main event was a six man tag between Ric Flair, Chris Benoit and Mongo McMichael(I didn't even know Mongo was still around at that point) Vs Hollywood Hogan, Kevin Nash and Big Poppa Pump.

[MillenniumMan831 0]

I couldn't find the original question, but someone asked why there was no War Games at Fall Brawl '99. This was a matter of logistics, as they didn't have room to put two rings in the arena, based on the way tickets had already been sold. It was a matter of poor pre-planning.

That's sadder than the reason I thought it was . . . they didn't feel like it.

[Jericholic82 0]

Yeah, but who else was there in terms of babyfaces in WCW on the roster at the time? And it's a WarGames match, they don't neccessarily even have to acknowledge each other really.

 

And besides on the 1/25/99 Nitro, the main event was a six man tag between Ric Flair, Chris Benoit and Mongo McMichael(I didn't even know Mongo was still around at that point) Vs Hollywood Hogan, Kevin Nash and Big Poppa Pump.

was this the match where mongo got bleach thrown in his eyes and then dissapared forever after the match?

 

and hennig was actually shown on camera in the crowd on the nitro before bash at the beach 97

 

raven also debuted on that nitro

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Ted DiBiase was twice set to enter the NWA/WCW, in 1987 and 1993, but both times it fell through. The first time, he had actually verbally agreed to come in, but when Vince pitched him the basic idea of The Million Dollar Man gimmick (Vince wouldn't tell him everything until DiBiase was signed), he went with Vince instead. The second time, he had also agreed to money terms, but when they wanted his first match to be a 30:00 draw with Dustin Rhodes at Halloween Havoc '93, DiBiase didn't think that was the best way to debut, and so the deal fell apart.

[King Kamala 0]

I figured something out, even at it's peak (97-98), WCW was still #2 in the Northeast US and Canada. I know WCW probably dominated the south for most of the 90's. So in the midwest during the Monday Night Wars, was WCW or WWF more popular?