Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted November 14, 2004 Mike Sherman is a horrible coach IMO. The whole blitzing thing earlier this season was a total disaster for the team. Anyone with half a brain knew that it wasn't working after Thomas Jones ran wild on them in Week 2 but he stuck it out and dug a huge hole for the team. Let's not forget the horrible call during the Playoffs last season when he pussied out on a 4th and 1 when they had been running all over Philly with Green. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted November 14, 2004 And exactly how well are the Bucs playing now? It's really a whole different team, but Gruden got over the "hump" with much the same players and schemes. Sometimes you need a different coach to get those same players to play a little harder. Look at the dive the 49ers took with the same players and a coach change last season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2004 They were a 12-4 team that played themselves into a 9-7 record that year. They've consistently played below their talent level under him. The Buccs did well under Dungy but they didn't get over the hump until they brought someone else in. It was a different team. Al Groh made a stop before Herm. Al was the one that took over the 12-4 team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted November 14, 2004 You can place the blame for the whole blitzing thing earlier this season on the change in defensive coordinators and injuries. Remember, Ed Donatell has the Falcons defense in the top 10 in the league, and they were the #1 run defense until they got assraped by the Chiefs, while Slowik has done teribly adjusting to the loss of bulk on the defensive line. Grady Jackson and James Lee are both back now and the defense is playing better. They had to blitz like mad because they couldn't generate a pass rush with an undersized front seven, and they had to put some pressure on the quarterback because of that big hole at cornerback left by McKenzie. Sometimes you need a different coach to get those same players to play a little harder. Look at the dive the 49ers took with the same players and a coach change last season. Oh I agree with you, but Dennis Erickson is a HORRIBLY mediocre coach. Sherman has more victories in his first 4 years as Packers coach than both Holmgren and VINCE F'N LOMBARDI. That has to go for something. Though if he chokes in the playoffs again, I don't know how much longer we'll be seeing him around... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2004 Really, Sherman is lucky to be alive today after getting in Sapp's face a couple years ago Seeing Sapp rip Sherman's head off would be the highlight of my football life (aside from a Vikings Superbowl win) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted November 14, 2004 Man this Tampa-Atlanta game was great up until a big sack by ATL's d and a fumble return for the TD.. Looks like it'll get challenged though. Hey I might have an opportunity to win my game in kkk's league if the 3 early games I have differed (Tampa over Atlanta, Chicago over Tennessee, and St.Louis over Seattle) go in my favor. I'd prefer it that way rather than have additional stress to go with the Green Bay game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted November 14, 2004 Seeing Sapp rip Sherman's head off would be the highlight of my football life (aside from a Vikings Superbowl win) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2004 Just like a Packers fan And referring to earlier when someone asked why Alexander wasn't getting the ball for Seattle, he fumbled a couple minutes ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2004 Whoever in this thread said that Dave Wannstedt, Herm Edwards, and Mike Sherman are bad coaches clearly no absolutely nothing about football. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted November 14, 2004 Um, I'm sorry snuff but Wannstedt doesn't belong in that list. Edwards and Sherman are decent coaches (maybe not A+, but certainly B-level) but Wannstedt is fucking terrible. The Dolphins with Ricky could have gone to the Super Bowl any of the last couple years if it wasn't for a shitty coaching staff that couldn't get their guys in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2004 Don't forget The Moustache's tenure with Chicago, in which he took a Ditka team to the playoffs his first year but then drove them into the ground not long after Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2004 Mike Martz is a bad gameday coach. He has no concept of clock management and is terrible at playcalling. The Rams have a ton of talent, yet have underperformed every year since Vermiel. Dennis Erickson can't do anything and he badmouths his own team. I don't know why he even has a job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted November 14, 2004 I wouldn't say they underperformed in 2001, though... And he can't be really that bad at playcalling, since he was Vermeil's OC. Most people say he would still make a great OC rather than head coach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2004 Stupid, stupid Bears... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2004 Pace getting kicked out was very WWE-ish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2004 What did Pace do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2004 Nevermind. Herman Edwards is an idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted November 14, 2004 The Bengals/'Skins game is one ugly game for color. Black and Orange mixed with Gold, White and Maroon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2004 Javon Walker is abusing the Vikings secondary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2004 I sure wish the Vikings secondary would decide whether they're one of the best in the league or one of the worst Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2004 Well, Pittsburgh whipped Cleveland in a game where Ben Roethlisberger wasn't exactly on. I thought this one could've been a letdown game for the Steelers, but luckily, retarded Gerard Warren with his "I'm gonna hit Roethlisberger late and knock him out of the game!" bullshit, Antonio Bryant with his "Pittsburgh's defense is WEAK, yo!" routine, and Will Green deciding to pretend he isn't a 1st round bust and spitting in Joey Porter's face (and getting the snot knocked out of him) pregame ensured that the Steelers wouldn't be complacent. Jeff Garcia got kicked around and Holcomb tossed a TD in garbage time. QB controversy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted November 14, 2004 Not a chance. Scoring a TD in garbage time doesn't mandate constroversy when Garcia got smackdowned by the best team in the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted November 14, 2004 Bengals with a nice drive score the opening TD of the game off a 2 yard rush by RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDY~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2004 Trent Green still sucks. Way to throw an INT in the red zone, and then turn the ball over again with 8 seconds left Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2004 Overtime in Nashville, Bears to receive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2004 TD Vikings and we're back to tie game, 7-7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2004 Way to waste a challenge there Tice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted November 14, 2004 I'm starting to wonder if this Minnesota-Green Bay game is going to be another one of the overtime games. And apparently the Minnesota O-line is confusing KGB with Dwight Freeney. KGB's actually playing rather decently... PASS RUSH~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2004 Not a chance. Scoring a TD in garbage time doesn't mandate constroversy when Garcia got smackdowned by the best team in the league. It does when the coach doesn't like you. And Butch Davis doesn't like Garcia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted November 14, 2004 But does Cleveland like Butch Davis? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites