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So....when's Losman coming back? I really wouldn't be that surprised if he ends up starting at least one game by the end of the season.

 

I hope Bills fans are enjoying the Drew Bledsoe Experience like we Pats fans did from 1997- a game and a half into 2001.

 

Joe Theissman=psychic.

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While I don't think Green Bay fans would quite lose a large piece of themselves if Minnesota were to win the SB (as with NY and Boston), it does seem like hanging the Vikings past failures over fans heads is more central to GB fandom than it should be.

 

With that, a big catch by Minnesota

 

EDIT: make that a TD

Except that the Vikings are not the main rivals of the Packers. Chicago is.

I don't see how anyone could say that anymore. Yeah, maybe back in the 50's.. But admit it, we hate the Vikings more than quite possibly any other team in the NFL. I'd say Chicago comes second, then Dallas.

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I don't see how anyone could say that anymore. Yeah, maybe back in the 50's.. But admit it, we hate the Vikings more than quite possibly any other team in the NFL. I'd say Chicago comes second, then Dallas.

You have no idea. You've never even lived in Wisconsin.

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What VX said, essentially

 

Look at the records from the last decade or so: Green Bay-Chicago is so lopsided it isn't even funny... hell, when the Bears went 13-3 in '01 they still got swept by GB. At least the Vikes and Packers tend to split their season series (usually home and home)

 

 

 

At least with the game over now, VX and I can go back to talking about more important things, like the new Silent Force album.

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I don't see how anyone could say that anymore. Yeah, maybe back in the 50's.. But admit it, we hate the Vikings more than quite possibly any other team in the NFL. I'd say Chicago comes second, then Dallas.

You have no idea. You've never even lived in Wisconsin.

 

Aren't we awfully fussy as of late? Besides, what does where one live determine what they know about a team and its rivalries? Absolutely nothing anymore.

 

You can find Packer fans in Miami, and Redskin fans in Oakland, I knew a Vikings, Rams, and RABID Bucs fans out in Los Angeles. Same thing you'll find with any other sport. I really think region only plays part in lower-level athletics, like UCLA-USC or Miami-anyone else in Florida, but certainly not in the pros.

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I don't see how anyone could say that anymore. Yeah, maybe back in the 50's.. But admit it, we hate the Vikings more than quite possibly any other team in the NFL. I'd say Chicago comes second, then Dallas.

You have no idea. You've never even lived in Wisconsin.

I dunno how it is from the Packer fan POV, but living in Minnesota for three years, I know Vikings fans hate the Packers in the same manner that Red Sox fans hate the Yankees, and they hate them a lot more than Chicago or Detroit

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Maybe Packers-Vikings is that Red Sox-Yankees bitter spiteful hate, and Packers-Bears is that Cubs-Cardinals good-natured drunken hate.

 

But still, no Packer fans in my part of Wisconsin (state line) were ever like "Bears game. Meh. I'm waiting for the Vikings next week"

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If we analogize the NFC North to the AL East, Chicago could be the Orioles, a once proud team, with multiple championships and HoFers, that has fallen on hard times lately

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These last two weeks of the season are going to be something else, then.

 

And I thought you lived in Illinois, Czech? I know it's suburban Chicago, but I didn't realize you were that far away to be up towards the state line.

 

Maybe Packers-Vikings is that Red Sox-Yankees bitter spiteful hate, and Packers-Bears is that Cubs-Cardinals good-natured drunken hate.

 

Yeah, that's probably it right there. Although the tradition has gotten feisty at times. You can tell a good rivalry from how much the players really loathe each other. And we all know the Vikes and Packers love sticking it to each other on the field, and it's been hell ever since Minnesota ruined our consecutive home game streak with the debut of Randy Moss on MNF.

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Don't get me wrong, beating the Vikes is pretty high on the list, but Green Bay despises the Bears in ways that Minnesota can only imagine, even if it is lopsided. Yanks/Sox is pretty lopsided too.

 

Vikes & Packers are rivals. There is pure hatred between the Bears and Packers.

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Only thing that seems to be working for the Bills is their red zone D. They've held the Pats to FGs three times now. If not, this game would pretty much be in the bag right now.

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And I thought you lived in Illinois, Czech? I know it's suburban Chicago, but I didn't realize you were that far away to be up towards the state line.

Lake Geneva is about 6 miles from the state line. Half the city is from Chicago, and we get all the Chicago broadcast stations (2, 5, 7, 9, 11, 32). I'm at school in DeKalb right now, a safe 50 miles south of the state line.

 

EDIT: Also my family is probably moving back to Arlington Heights soon because Wisconsin sucked.

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Green Bay and Chicago both have championship history and for the most part in the older days would have to fight each other hard en route to a championship, so they are on a bit more equal footing in their rivalry

 

With Minnesota and Green Bay, Minnesota sees GB as the team that has won all those championships while we've come so close yet so far on seven different occasions (4 SBs, "Hail Mary", 1987 and 1998) and since GB fans love to hang that over our heads in the same way that Yankees loved to hang it over Sox fans before this year ("0-4" = "1918") it is very fierce in the same way

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I hope I never see the Vikings win a Superbowl in my entire life. And really..

 

How many teams have played 86 games and have a record of 43-42-1 against one another (with it probably being squared off at 43-43-1 by the end of the season) in professional sports? We're talking decades here of Packer sucktitude and even the confused lost identity aging Warren Moon-Cris Carter-Denny Green Vikes of most of the 90's as well. Back in 2000, the Packers desperately were clawing for a playoff spot, while the Vikes were cruising for most of the season, putting them in a prime spot for a Super Bowl run before getting worked in the NFC Championship by the Giants 41-0. The Packers, who didn't even make the playoffs, swept the series. It's almost, note, ALMOST as bad as Washington-Dallas in the aspect that it almost doesn't matter what happens to the two teams in the overall course of the season as long as we beat the Vikings.

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