Guest CronoT Report post Posted November 23, 2004 You're acting like he isn't in a great spot right now. He's playing third banana to a chimp. How is that a good spot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Okay if 20 guys in the ring can't put HHH over the top rope I'm going to be pretty pissed at the stupid booking. HHH HAS to lose the title next week and then win it back at New Year's Revolution. Anything else at this point would just be retarded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted November 23, 2004 The crowd clearly wants to cheer Batistia and he can work better, promo better and looks better then Orton. I really really wouldn't be shocked if Batistia ends up getting the WMXXI Spot against HHH. The slow burn Batistia/HHH has been better then everything Orton/HHH has tried to be. Orton should just do a turn again and snap, saying he's tried to be the nice guy but it got himself nowhere but he doesn't need anyone and is a lone wolf. (kinda like what Edge is doing but with the same old cocky arrogance) and just trade him over to Smackdown to "Kill" the biggest legend left in the game today (The Undertaker) for Mania and ship Angle over to Raw for the HBK program. Likely WWE will miss the boat on Batistia and turn him too late. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 The crowd clearly wants to cheer Batistia and he can work better, promo better and looks better then Orton. I really really wouldn't be shocked if Batistia ends up getting the WMXXI Spot against HHH. The slow burn Batistia/HHH has been better then everything Orton/HHH has tried to be. Orton should just do a turn again and snap, saying he's tried to be the nice guy but it got himself nowhere but he doesn't need anyone and is a lone wolf. (kinda like what Edge is doing but with the same old cocky arrogance) and just trade him over to Smackdown to "Kill" the biggest legend left in the game today (The Undertaker) for Mania and ship Angle over to Raw for the HBK program. Likely WWE will miss the boat on Batistia and turn him too late. You couldn't have posted it any better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Batista is so much better than Orton, its scary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{''({o..o})''} 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 You're acting like he isn't in a great spot right now. He's playing third banana to a chimp. How is that a good spot? You sure like the word "chimp" huh? I'll keep this short, he doesn't job in ways that make him look bad, he can be thrown into the main event and be bought as legit by the fans, his weaknesses aren't purposely exposed and he's treated at least at a near equal level with the main guy on raw and a legend. A bit of a challenge to you, who is in a better spot than Batista currently then, outside of HHH and Orton? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 I'll keep this short, he doesn't job in ways that make him look bad HE JOBBED TO MAVEN! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Here's Another reason they CAN'T miss the Batistia boat right now, Batistia is 34 years old. Orton is merely 25. Orton has a long future ahead of him. If they miss the Batistia boat they are stuck really with another Kane here. A monster who lost all creditbility but due to his size is always usable. If they turn Batistia into what they are slowly envolving him into, the smart calcuated yet vicious and smooth daddio...the fans will be all over him and buy it better then Orton being DDP 2.0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{''({o..o})''} 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 I'll keep this short, he doesn't job in ways that make him look bad HE JOBBED TO MAVEN! And? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rrrsh Report post Posted November 23, 2004 The crowd clearly wants to cheer Batistia and he can work better, promo better and looks better then Orton. I really really wouldn't be shocked if Batistia ends up getting the WMXXI Spot against HHH. The slow burn Batistia/HHH has been better then everything Orton/HHH has tried to be. Orton should just do a turn again and snap, saying he's tried to be the nice guy but it got himself nowhere but he doesn't need anyone and is a lone wolf. (kinda like what Edge is doing but with the same old cocky arrogance) and just trade him over to Smackdown to "Kill" the biggest legend left in the game today (The Undertaker) for Mania and ship Angle over to Raw for the HBK program. Likely WWE will miss the boat on Batistia and turn him too late. #1 Orton has more Face Charisma than Batista. Period. All you DAVE marks because he dresses liek a pimp need to get ur head out of ur ass on that. And a roided up monkey like Batitsa should count his lucky stars HHH picked him out of a bucnh of green hosses in OVW to join Evo and be the "future". Orton has his father, Batista has his Roids. So this Push Dave shit is retarded. #2 Batista will defiantly take on HHH at WM. Orton sole goal is to get back his Title. So once HHH loses it, Orton will chalange for it at WM. HHH will prolly lose it too Benoit in route of a Batista turn at RR. WM: HHH/Batista, Orotn/Benoit, Kane/Snitsky, HBK/Edge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 It'll be HHH vs. Orton at WM. End of story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest fanofcoils Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Here's Another reason they CAN'T miss the Batistia boat right now, Batistia is 34 years old. Orton is merely 25. Orton has a long future ahead of him. If they miss the Batistia boat they are stuck really with another Kane here. A monster who lost all creditbility but due to his size is always usable. If they turn Batistia into what they are slowly envolving him into, the smart calcuated yet vicious and smooth daddio...the fans will be all over him and buy it better then Orton being DDP 2.0 Batista is 35 and Orton is 24. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted November 23, 2004 big fucking difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{''({o..o})''} 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 I didn't see him call you any names or anything, he just corrected an error. Calm down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted November 23, 2004 calm down from what? All I said was "big fucking difference". I didn't attack him. Maybe you just didn't like my choice of wordage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{''({o..o})''} 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 I'll keep this short, he doesn't job in ways that make him look bad HE JOBBED TO MAVEN! And? See, this is where you post another emoticon and tell me about how Maven squashed Batista, and did the same the rest of the confrontations they had, as opposed to a fluke win and then getting his ass repeatedly handed to him afterwards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 so.. will HHH try and slam Viscera, but fail, causing Viscera to fall on him for a pin? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted November 23, 2004 well, It's a battle royal. Pinfalls rarely are used there. Seriously, I'm intrigued at how HHH gets out of this one with the title. There is ZERO logical reason the whole ring save for Flair and 'Tistia SHOULDN'T all go after HHH right away. HHH should be unquestionably the first man eliminated. I can only assume he pulls a Shawn here and doesn't enter the ring right away, If that's the case Orton the acting GM should only go "if you don't enter the ring, you are officially eliminated". There is ZERO chance HHH should go over here(but he will) Sure, Let HHH look smart enough to survive a few people and actually let him be in the final four to add the "is he really going to do this?" sell for the fans and then end it with Batistia eliminating HHH leaving Benoit against Batistia and Edge. It should go down to Benoit and Edge with Benoit winning the title for his short transition run with Edge chasing him down to win it back a few weeks later at NYE and either at Rumble or before Mania, HHH gets the belt back. In two weeks; when Jericho takes over, HHH shouldn't be the champion. Jericho should have "crazy" night of wackyness and then a major title match between him and Benoit because thats what the fans want for Xmas this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scroby 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Hey who was that tag team that came out at the end of Raw? They were the young guys that came out just a little bit after Orton said whats behind door #2? I"ve never ever seen these guys before, who are they? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Well...the whole roster came out...so you'd have to point out which ones you mean. I didn't see anyone new out there. Perhaps you're thinking of La Rez who were in street clothes and Conway had his hair pony'd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scroby 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 They wern't in street clothes, they were in their wrestling gear. It looked like they were wearing Dean Malenko's old trunks but shiny. They were standing close to Orton and were right in front of Viscera. So if you watch right before you see Viscera comes into the picture they are both in front of them. It could have been La Rez, but it really didn't look like them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CronoT Report post Posted November 23, 2004 well, It's a battle royal. Pinfalls rarely are used there. Seriously, I'm intrigued at how HHH gets out of this one with the title. There is ZERO logical reason the whole ring save for Flair and 'Tistia SHOULDN'T all go after HHH right away. HHH should be unquestionably the first man eliminated. He'll probably pull the same trick Heenan did, and get in the ring, and then roll out under the bottom rope, and hide under the ring. Now THAT'S old skool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted November 23, 2004 The unintentionally funny moment of the night has to go to Jerry Lawler trying to shill Yu Yu Hakusho. "Yu Hu Hakusho! You gotta love it!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Waterproof Blonde. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Well said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Waterproof Blonde? I swear to god that same song is on Alter Bridge's CD...was that a former name of theirs? Anyway, my problem with Raw tonight was the whole deal about Shelton Benjamin...can they not have one black star without playing up his "tough childhood on the streets" roots? Is it that hard to get him over simply as a bad ass wrestler, which I felt he was fairly succeeding in? Oh and put the title on Batista now while he's still young enough to put on decent matches! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 I predict that Randy Orton will win the battle royal. And then "TRIPLE H WILL FOOL US ALL ONCE AGAIN!" He'll remind us that of course since Orton can't win the title as long as he was champ, the battle royal was thus NON TITLE. HE FOOLED US AGAIN! Black Lushus... Batista has yet to put on one good singles match, except for two carry jobs by HBK and Benoit...and those matches were...average. The title on him? LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 he's decent enough to me and he's certainly more over than most of the people on the Raw roster...when folks thought his face turn was legit last night he was getting all kinds of good reactions over it...were we not watching the same program? He's certainly up there in the top 5 of all time hosses in the WWE as far as workrate goes so why not put the strap on him? if anything at least for transistional purposes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jester 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Didn't Orton offer HHH a choice though? Either the Rumble or face Orton? He could choose to face Orton and go over, which would be a little more believable and tolerable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hhheld_down Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Didn't Orton offer HHH a choice though? Either the Rumble or face Orton? He could choose to face Orton and go over, which would be a little more believable and tolerable. pretty sure he already chose tonight. i was pretty disappointed this week that we didnt get hhh/beniot in a cage even if hhh wealsed out with the title. still not too bad i guess of a show, it was just kinda killed at the end. next week should be interesting at the least, i can just smell a revolt if (when) hhh leaves with his title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
