JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Justice Smith was voted off Tough Enough as was announced at the TV tapings in Greenville, SC, leaving Daniel Puder vs. Mike Mizanin in a boxing match at the Armageddon PPV, with the winner the strong favorite to get the $1 million contract. Credit: Meltz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted December 8, 2004 If the fight is legit, I am so going to enjoy watching Puder beat the piss out of Mizanin. It's gonna be like Williams/Tyson II, except with 2 white guys who speak clear english. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Only The Strong Survive 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 So... when will Smith and Reeves make their debuts as bland steroi-junkie wrestlers after having lame gimmicks in OVW? I want Puder to stiff out The Miz like nobody's business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Is it going to be like Piper vs Mr. T or the Bart Gunn fight? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 They will probably have to sweep Miz's remains up off the mat after Puder is done with him if its legit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
algrim 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 At the Armageddon site, it says that the final two Tough Enough contestants will be involved in a Dixie Dog fight, whatever that means Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 At the Armageddon site, it says that the final two Tough Enough contestants will be involved in a Dixie Dog fight, whatever that means That's their way of saying a boxing match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted December 8, 2004 They can't book a REAL Boxing Match (a real sport that needs a special promotor license), so they have to make up special names for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fook Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Well I don't think they can't have an actual boxing match without having to comply to certain rules by the athletic commission in whatever state they're in, so they just change something and call it by a different name. Or they do what they did during the diva search and have the competitors beat up Coach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 This is going to be ugly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Coach isn't on Smackdown (thank God), so maybe Cole can take his place. That would get my $35. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Good, I didn't care for him anyway. I almost, ALMOST went to SD tonight. I was actually at the box office about to buy a $36 ticket just for me, but I decided against it. I had went to Greenville to shop not knowing that SD was there tonight, and decided to just do what I was there to do. I did pay $5 for parking, I was that close to actually going. As I was walking around the building, there was a handful of fans standing at a back gate where the wrestlers and people park, and they were talking to all three of the TE guys. I didn't talk to them personally, but I did see them and they seemed to be having a great time talking to the fans, and the fans seemed to really be enjoying it. This was at 5:30 or so also, so it was a bit early. I wish I had went to the show now, I've never just went to a show by myself at the spur of the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
algrim 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 With this match added, this PPV has thenpotential of being just as bad as GAB. You could certainly guess that they will add a CW title match and probably Hiroko vs. Torrie again (God, no! ). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Didn't Puder have three KO's in MMA? How did those come about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fook Report post Posted December 8, 2004 I'm guessing by hitting his opponents really hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JRE Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Has it ever officially been said that the winner of the fight wins TE? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 This is going to be ugly. If they make this legit, yes, it's going to be messy. I don't know how good of a fighter Puder is / was, but I have to figure he's good enough to potentially do some real damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 He trained at the American Kickboxing Academy. Now, I don't want to point out the obvious here... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 If Puder never punked Angle out, he wouldn't have made the finals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 This whole TE thing is bullshit. The last two guys left are the smallest guys in the thing, and everybody obviously knows that nobody likes smaller wrestlers compared to big 6-9, 300 pound guys like Justice Smith and Dan Rodimer. I CALL SHENNANIGANS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted December 8, 2004 I hate everyone but Smith and Puder. The other 5 or 6 finalists can go to hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 If Puder never punked Angle out, he wouldn't have made the finals. If this contest had truly been based upon athletic ability, instead of the shitty, retarded challenges that they came up with every week, I would say you would be wrong, since Puder is arguably the best all-around athlete of the bunch. However, since it's not, I think you're likely right. Puder doesn't strike me as a guy with a whole lot of personality, and he can't cut a promo at all, but him punking out Angle gave him some credibility and a certain aura & mystique. It made Puder the internet fan favorite, and that's the sole reason why he's made it to the end, because 99.99% of the non-smart fans who watched that fateful segment with Angle wouldn't know what a keylock was or how Angle was screwed from the moment the move was applied. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted December 8, 2004 There were other things though, that fans recognized. Puder was the guy who got screwed out of the end of that physical contest that proceeded that match, and he actually held his own and got screwed at the end when his shoulders weren't down. When the forces line up against you in that way, there are going to be some fans that will be attracted to you. I don't think he would have topped out Mizanin at that point, cause Mizanin had the exposure at that point, but there were a lot of other factors involved in Puder's rise other than the fact that he should have beat Angle. I'm guessing by hitting his opponents really hard. I meant in terms of strike, kick, knee, punch, elbow, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 They can't book a REAL Boxing Match (a real sport that needs a special promotor license), so they have to make up special names for it. They CAN get a license, but the WWE has to be approved by the boxing commission of that specific state beforehand. The last time they promoted a boxing match (Carmella/Christy in Seattle) you may remember that the WWE (whoever the fault falls on) didn't get the boxing license. Then again, the Dixie Dog Fight (which will be a shoot bout, as Meltzer as confirmed) doesn't have to be a boxing match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 There were other things though, that fans recognized. Puder was the guy who got screwed out of the end of that physical contest that proceeded that match, and he actually held his own and got screwed at the end when his shoulders weren't down. When the forces line up against you in that way, there are going to be some fans that will be attracted to you. I don't think he would have topped out Mizanin at that point, cause Mizanin had the exposure at that point, but there were a lot of other factors involved in Puder's rise other than the fact that he should have beat Angle. In the training that isn't seen, the Miz has the advantage since he has been wrestling for 2 years. He was the only guy to sell the bodyslam in the Big Show segment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecha Mummy 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 If I were Miz, I'd be making sure I have a guaranteed contract after the shoot fight/boxing match/whatever. Because if not, what the hell is the point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted December 8, 2004 It's pointless as hell anyways. Puder will win the fight unless Miz has this unknown fighting prowness we're not aware of. Miz still wins the internet voting simply because of who he is and his charisma and personality. Which sets up Puder to come back as the "Silent Pissed off warrior" type of character ala Shamrock but with less real cred. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 It's pointless as hell anyways. Puder will win the fight unless Miz has this unknown fighting prowness we're not aware of. Miz still wins the internet voting simply because of who he is and his charisma and personality. Which sets up Puder to come back as the "Silent Pissed off warrior" type of character ala Shamrock but with less real cred. Great idea, and probably what the WWE will do when (and I do mean WHEN) Mizanin loses the shoot bout at Armageddon. If they go the route of Mizanin winning on next week's Smackdown with a small margin, with the announcers shilling that it was his prior fame that won him the contract despite getting his ass handed to him at Armageddon, you make Puder into a mega-face (as a result of Miz going heel). EDIT: Nevermind. TSBY showed me the light. Just seems that Edge already did it a few weeks ago. Maybe have Puder go face for a while to further the angle, THEN turn heel to coincide with his in-ring debut? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Mega-Heel. He should be pissed off that because he wasn't a pretty boy or some mtv star, his dreams of being a wwe superstar and the Million dollar contract was flushed down the toliet but it didn't matter. He "busted" his ass and proved he deserved a spot on the rotation thanks to a private workout with The COB himself; Vince McMahon. With this "Fuck the World" attitude and perhaps with Paul Heyman as the one who gave him the session with Vince, he could easily be a big heel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Seeya on WWE TV in about 5 months after your OVW stint, Justice. At least having these guys be the final two makes sense. Does the DDF actually decide the winner, or is there still a final vote to go? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites