Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2004 Celtics with a big win over Cleveland on the road, in OT. LeBron goes for 31, 6 and 7 and was money down the stretch, but fouled out early in OT opening the door for Boston. Great game. 2nd straight OT road win for Boston, they're really coming together right now and will definitely be dangerous come playoff time if they keep Payton for the whole year. Lots of depth and energy and Doc has them playing the full 48 every night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2004 Iverson scores 54 points as the Sixers defeat the Bucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2004 The first load of All-star ballots were revealed this week as well. This would be the starting lineups right now East: LeBron, Iverson, Carter, Hill, Shaq West: McGrady, Bryant, Garnett, Duncan, Yao Yao is the overall leader. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2004 Three in a row, against the Pacers, no less! These Chicago Bulls are a team to watch! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Electrifyer 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2004 Damn right! Recognize bitches! I've been waiting for a three game win streak ever since the Jordan era ended! The next game will be vs. Portland which I believe the Bulls will be able to win. If they can beat teams like Cleveland, Minny and LA and bring Dallas to the limit, I have a strong belief Portland will fall to the now mighty Bulls of Chicago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2004 Steph should be starting over Iverson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2004 We'll take the Jail Blazers, no prob. Maybe even upset Dallas! Watch the FUCK out, Central Division. The Bulls are back in town. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2004 Steph should be starting over Iverson. Dwyane Wade should start over both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Electrifyer 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2004 I like how Grant Hill is a starter too. But once again, other than Shaq, the East is being clobbered size-wise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted December 19, 2004 The first load of All-star ballots were revealed this week as well. This would be the starting lineups right now East: LeBron, Iverson, Carter, Hill, Shaq West: McGrady, Bryant, Garnett, Duncan, Yao Yao is the overall leader. I love the lineup for the West. Man, that's insane. The East is decent, but I don't know about Carter and Hill being in there. Has Grant really been having that good of a season to justify that? And Carter has only been holding back Toronto, from what I've heard. Now the question is can McGrady and Bryant share the ball on the West's side? Ha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mindless_Aggression Report post Posted December 19, 2004 Hill's selection to the team is justified. Dunno if he should be the starter, but he's earned a slot on the team at least. Carter shouldn't even be allowed in the building. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2004 I think Hill deserves to start. When you look at it, he's really about the only forward in the East putting up All-Star numbers for a winning team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2004 And Antawn Jamison, forgot about him. Yes, the Wiz actually have a winning record. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agent_Bond34 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2004 Three in a row, against the Pacers, no less! These Chicago Bulls are a team to watch! and a fun one, at that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2004 I think Grant deserves the start just because of all he went through to get back to this level. It really is a great story, and the guy was an all-star starter every year until his ankle got busted. It's going to be really cool to see him out there again, kind of like when the fans voted in Magic for one last game after he retired (the first time). I think Iverson deserves the nod at guard, but both Wade and Marbury are locks for the reserves. It's really debateable between those three, I can buy the argument for any one of them, but Iverson will win out due to popularity. Francis will be a reserve too. The West is INSANE with talent. It's crazy that Dirk and Amare, both of whom are putting up HUGE numbers, won't even start. Duncan should be at the center spot because Yao really doesn't the start this year. And I'd love to see Steve Nash and Ray Allen in the backcourt, I've been voting for them, but obviously T-Mac and Kobe have the marquee names. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2004 Steph should be starting over Iverson. Dwyane Wade should start over both. Why? He has Shaq. Steph carries the Knicks on his bacj. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted December 19, 2004 Steph should be starting over Iverson. Dwyane Wade should start over both. Why? He has Shaq. You just answered your own question. And I'd love to see Steve Nash and Ray Allen in the backcourt, I've been voting for them, but obviously T-Mac and Kobe have the marquee names. T-Mac's come on strong lately, but Kobe's leading the league in scoring right now so I think he deserves the All-Star vote. I voted Nash/Bryant in the backcourt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2004 Miami has the best record in the East, Wade has the best numbers of anyone in the East other than LeBron. Steph should still make the team, but my vote goes to Wade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2004 Wade: 23 PPG, 50 FGP, 7.2 APG, 37 3p%, 1 steal per game Steph: 20 PPG, 45 FGP, 8.5 APG, 36 3p%, 2 steals per game Wade has an adavatage, but I don't know. Without Wade, the Heat have Shaq. With Steph, the Knicks suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted December 19, 2004 You act as if Shaq alone can make a difference, which is definitely not true. The Indiana-Detroit brawl is probably one of the biggest reasons Miami was able to leapfrog both of them in the East standings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2004 Well then wouldn't you have to take that off Wades accomplishments if he had nothing to do with leading them in the east? *wink* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2004 Wade: 23 PPG, 50 FGP, 7.2 APG, 37 3p%, 1 steal per game Steph: 20 PPG, 45 FGP, 8.5 APG, 36 3p%, 2 steals per game The 3 point % is deceiving, because Wade hits like .2 per game and Marbury hits over a three a game. Wade is not a very good outside shooter yet, he's a driver and slasher, and Shaq is the reason his numbers are so good. Without Shaq down low defenses can key on his drives and force him to play the perimiter, and you're looking at #'s closer to what he put up last year. Marbury is definitely the better overall player at this point, and he completely carries the Knicks. That's why I give both Iverson and Marbury the nod, they carry their teams while Wade doesn't, but Wade is only in his 2nd season, give him time and he'll be capable of doing what they do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted December 19, 2004 Well then wouldn't you have to take that off Wades accomplishments if he had nothing to do with leading them in the east? *wink* Absolutely not, because I'm not judging Miami as a team here, we're talking about individual play, and Wade has matured immensely. Without him, the Heat have only Shaq and they probably wouldn't be much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mindless_Aggression Report post Posted December 20, 2004 I'm taking Marbury in this whole debate. Honestly, the Knicks are the worst kind of mediocre. The kind of mediocre that doesn't realize they're mediocre. Jamal Crawford, Tim Thomas and at times, Kurt Thomas just take ridiculous shots that they're not good enough to make consistently and Marbury has to hold all that together. Wade has a much easier job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted December 20, 2004 Nah.. Wade just makes it look easy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
