MikeJordan23 Posted December 21, 2004 Report Posted December 21, 2004 They just put this on ESPNews. Not much else
Youth N Asia Posted December 21, 2004 Report Posted December 21, 2004 I don't like the idea of a college playoff. While I'm not for paying college players, I also don't think it's fair to milk them for any more games. I love that there's a controversy at the end of every season over who's really the best....screw a playoff.
cabbageboy Posted December 21, 2004 Report Posted December 21, 2004 The lack of a real playoff is always what's made college football idiotic though. As in it doesn't really reward a team that is in a smaller conference, but might have a chance to make some noise. And also there are the teams who schedule tough, take a loss or two, but by year's end are awesome (think USC with Carson Palmer)..and they get screwed as well. If I recall correctly there was one poll already that wasn't in the BCS, or at least I know USC was still #1 in one poll after the bowls last year, and thus got a share of the title. Anyone wanna clarify?
Slovakia Posted December 21, 2004 Report Posted December 21, 2004 Just have Richard Nixon decide the national champion again.
Guest Phenom Posted December 21, 2004 Report Posted December 21, 2004 Just have Richard Nixon decide the national champion again. I'd be okay with it.
teke184 Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 As an LSU fan, I think I can safely say... FUCK the AP! If the AP does pull out, things may get interesting, but they'll find a way to make things a little less controversial. It's not like they can fuck things up much worse anyway.
Damaramu Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 So will the winner of the AP now usually coincide with the winner of the BCS or will they just run around crowning random national champions to make a statement? Like say USC blows OU out but Auburn squeaks by VT. They still vote Auburn the national champion to be difficult and make a point?
Slovakia Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 How about all the division 1A quarterbacks make a list of tasteless jokes one night, then I look at them all and arbitrarily pick one and say "okay, you win football." Then one of them, who we'll call The Amazing Leinart, pesters me all night declaring that he won football, and it's not even a question. Then I pick someone else just to mess with him.
Bored Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 In the great scheme of things this doesn't mean much because the AP already has its own seperate national champion and really has no reason to be part of the BCS. The BCS decides the Coaches Poll national champ only.
2GOLD Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 It the great scheme of things this doesn't mean much because the AP already has its own seperate national champion and really has no reason to be part of the BCS. The BCS decides the Coaches Poll national champ only. The Coaches poll champion will always be Mack Brown. Mack Brown is the GOD of the Coaches Poll.
Slovakia Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 If I was a coach, I'd vote for myself!
Mole Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 Maybe it is because I don't know enough about college football, but what is so damn hard about a playoff? It works for all of the other divisions, so why can't it for D1?
Damaramu Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 They're now saying they may use a selection committee to decide who plays for the national title. Aren't we just dancing around the issue here? I mean how is this going to help? There will probably be more controversy by letting a committee of people who probably haven't seen even half of the games played by the Top 5 decide who plays. I think they're making it worse.
The Ghost of bps21 Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 It can't get worse. At least not worse than last year. It took the stupid computer until AFTER the bowl games to come up with the same top 2 that any sane football watcher had BEFORE the games were played. Thanks for nothing. Stupid Computer.
MrRant Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 They're now saying they may use a selection committee to decide who plays for the national title. Aren't we just dancing around the issue here? I mean how is this going to help? There will probably be more controversy by letting a committee of people who probably haven't seen even half of the games played by the Top 5 decide who plays. I think they're making it worse. The committee will probably be people who are able to watch most games.
Art Sandusky Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 The actual AP statement was pretty fucking angry, by proper news release standards.
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 Maybe it is because I don't know enough about college football, but what is so damn hard about a playoff? It works for all of the other divisions, so why can't it for D1? I think the biggest problem is that college football had a rare system where people watched non-Championship Bowl Games. The BCS has already hurt the importance of those games. With a playoff, you have one big game, but the other games lose popularity.
CanadianChris Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 I think people are grossly overestimating the impact of a playoff system on the lesser bowls. People have ALWAYS watched the lesser bowls, even when you knew the two teams weren't playing for anything more an 8-4 season as opposed to 7-5. A playoff isn't going to change that -- people will still watch college football if it's on TV. All this system will likely do is crown three national champions instead of two, unless the NCAA takes away the power to crown a national champion from the polls.
Crimson Platypus Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 I think people are grossly overestimating the impact of a playoff system on the lesser bowls. People have ALWAYS watched the lesser bowls, even when you knew the two teams weren't playing for anything more an 8-4 season as opposed to 7-5. A playoff isn't going to change that -- people will still watch college football if it's on TV. All this system will likely do is crown three national champions instead of two, unless the NCAA takes away the power to crown a national champion from the polls. Not true at all. I can't remember off the top of my head, but I think there were two or three that were not pulling their weight in average attendance and were possibly being scrapped if they can't bring it up to par.
CanadianChris Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 A playoff system won't impact that, though. It would've been more accurate for me to have said that a playoff won't make people more or less likely to watch lesser bowls.
Crimson Platypus Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 A playoff system won't impact that, though. It would've been more accurate for me to have said that a playoff won't make people more or less likely to watch lesser bowls. I disagree. The reason people don't watch or attend the lesser bowls is because they don't mean anything. Really who cares if a game decides if Georgia Tech goes 7-6 or 8-5? But if that game decided if GT advances to the next round??? A playoff would actually only need to have say the top 10, 1 and 2 get a first round bye. No one outside the top ten realistically has a chance anyway. People would watch, guarenteed.
Gert T Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 I think people are grossly overestimating the impact of a playoff system on the lesser bowls. People have ALWAYS watched the lesser bowls, even when you knew the two teams weren't playing for anything more an 8-4 season as opposed to 7-5. A playoff isn't going to change that -- people will still watch college football if it's on TV. All this system will likely do is crown three national champions instead of two, unless the NCAA takes away the power to crown a national champion from the polls. Not true at all. I can't remember off the top of my head, but I think there were two or three that were not pulling their weight in average attendance and were possibly being scrapped if they can't bring it up to par. That could also be a by-product of the over-saturation of bowl games to, including ones in non-traditional markets.
Damaramu Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 The actual AP statement was pretty fucking angry, by proper news release standards. Yeah what was up with them saying they never gave the BCS consent to use their poll in the formula? They're just now deciding to say something 7 years later?
Precious Roy Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 As someone who doesn't give two shits about college football as a direct result of the retarded ranking systems I can say that the only thing that could make me a consumer is a proper playoff system where a team earns the championship by beating other top teams in a do or die setting and not due to poll positioning and computer formula. Take that for what it's worth, but I know a lot of other sports fans feel the same way.
Vern Gagne Posted December 23, 2004 Report Posted December 23, 2004 The actual AP statement was pretty fucking angry, by proper news release standards. Yeah what was up with them saying they never gave the BCS consent to use their poll in the formula? They're just now deciding to say something 7 years later? I don't think the AP is doing this because they want a playoff. They're bothered they don't have the final say on who the national champion is.
Damaramu Posted December 23, 2004 Report Posted December 23, 2004 The actual AP statement was pretty fucking angry, by proper news release standards. Yeah what was up with them saying they never gave the BCS consent to use their poll in the formula? They're just now deciding to say something 7 years later? I don't think the AP is doing this because they want a playoff. They're bothered they don't have the final say on who the national champion is. Well they still don't! Now they get to crown their National champion and the BCS will crown it's. I think we're back where we started.
Slayer Posted December 23, 2004 Report Posted December 23, 2004 I think we're back where we started. Pretty much
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