Bored 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2005 http://www.profootballhof.com//enshrinemen...release_id=1370 Harry Carson - Linebacker - 1976-1988 New York Giants Richard Dent - Defensive End - 1983-1993, 1995 Chicago Bears, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1996 Indianapolis Colts, 1997 Philadelphia Eagles Benny Friedman - Quarterback - 1927 Cleveland Bulldogs, 1928 Detroit Wolverines, 1929-1931 New York Giants, 1932-1934 Brooklyn Dodgers L.C. Greenwood - Defensive End - 1969-1981 Pittsburgh Steelers Russ Grimm - Guard - 1981-1991 Washington Redskins Claude Humphrey - Defensive End - 1968-1978 Atlanta Falcons, 1979-1981 Philadelphia Eagles Michael Irvin - Wide Receiver - 1988-1999 Dallas Cowboys Bob Kuechenberg - Guard - 1970-1984 Miami Dolphins Dan Marino - Quarterback - 1983-1999 Miami Dolphins Art Monk - Wide Receiver - 1980-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 New York Jets, 1995 Philadelphia Eagles Fritz Pollard - Back/Coach - 1919-1921, 1925-1926 Akron Pros/Indians, 1922 Milwaukee Badgers, 1923-1924 Gilberton Cadamounts (independent pro team), 1923, 1925 Hammond Pros, 1925 Providence Steam Roller Derrick Thomas - Linebacker - 1989-1999 Kansas City Chiefs Roger Wehrli - Cornerback - 1969-1982 St. Louis Cardinals George Young - Contributor - 1968-1974 Baltimore Colts, 1975-1978 Miami Dolphins, 1979-1997 New York Giants, 1998-2001 National Football League Steve Young - Quarterback - 1985-1986 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 1987-1999 San Francisco 49ers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2005 Young and Marino are automatic. Irvin is interesting, in that his off-field activities may hurt him, but I imagine he'll get in as well. Thomas should be in. I'm surprised that Dent and Monk have been on the ballot as long as they have. I would have thought at least Monk would get in in his first or second year of eligibility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2005 Is there a limit on how many can be elected in a year? Because this group looks pretty stacked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Gecko Report post Posted January 11, 2005 Dan Marino and Steve Young should be first ballot. Michael Irvin might be too, but to me he hardly compares to Young/Marino. Art Monk deserves to be in as well. This year's class might be even better than last years. I thought Sanders/Elway was a damn good year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2005 Is there a limit on how many can be elected in a year? Because this group looks pretty stacked. The committee must elect at least three, but not more than six. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted January 11, 2005 This is pretty easy. Dan Marino Michael Irvin Art Monk Steve Young Richard Dent and a random lineman whose career I wouldn't know the slightest about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2005 Is there a limit on how many can be elected in a year? Because this group looks pretty stacked. I believe it is 5, but only 4 got in last year: Bob Brown, John Elway, Carl Eller and Barry Sanders. Marino and Young will get in, but other than that I have no idea. Irvin might but since he was a Cowboy, I could give two shits. And how is it that Monk isn't in yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2005 Because his career revolved around longevity and not a dominant stretch of time. He only was in the top 10 in receptions 4 times, top 10 in rec. yards 3 times, and top 10 in rec. TDs once. So while I can certainly see those who want to vote for him based on career numbers, I do see the arguement for those who vote for the more dominant players not wanting Monk in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2005 Because his career revolved around longevity and not a dominant stretch of time. He only was in the top 10 in receptions 4 times, top 10 in rec. yards 3 times, and top 10 in rec. TDs once. So while I can certainly see those who want to vote for him based on career numbers, I do see the arguement for those who vote for the more dominant players not wanting Monk in. Why can't the Baseball HoF adopt this philosophy a bit more? Then we'd have Jim Rice in the Hall, and not Don Sutton. [/hijack] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2005 *takes out C.C. and regains control of thread.* The biggest problem Monk faces is he's considered a possession receiver. Who I think will make it Steve Young Dan Marino Micheal Irvin Russ Grimm Harry Carson Benny Friedman (veterans) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfaJack 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2005 Because his career revolved around longevity and not a dominant stretch of time. He only was in the top 10 in receptions 4 times, top 10 in rec. yards 3 times, and top 10 in rec. TDs once. So while I can certainly see those who want to vote for him based on career numbers, I do see the arguement for those who vote for the more dominant players not wanting Monk in. This is the same argument I use against Marcus Allen. Allen: 1 rushing title Exactly 4 top ten rushing finishes ('82-4th, '84-10th, '85-1st, '87-10th) Only 5 top ten 'total yards from scrimmage finishes' ('82-1st, '83-9th, '84-4th, '85-1st, '87-6th) Playing a long time doesn't make you a great player, but if you put that overrated Marcus Allen in, you have to let Art Monk in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2005 My picks - Dan Marino - Steve Young - Richard Dent(137.5 Sacks in 203 games) - Michael Irvin(11,904 yards receiving) - Derrick Thomas(126.5 Sacks in 169 games) - Russ Grimm(Member of the "Hogs" Offensive Line, made 4 SB appearances) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted January 11, 2005 Young, Marino, Irvin, Monk. I don't know enough about most of the other players. Young and Marino are no brainers, Monk should have been in before, and as much as I hate the Cowboys Irvin should be in too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted January 11, 2005 Aren't Young and Irvin BOTH on the same Sunday Countdown show? That's interesting. Yeah... Young Marino Irvin Monk and one of the oldies from the vets Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 Marcus Allen also finished in the top 10 in rushing TDs 9 times and is still number 2 in that category. Combine that with a Super Bowl MVP in one of the great big game performances in league history and that is why he is in the HOF. And the "Player X is mediocre but in the HOF, so Player Y who is just as mediocre should be in" arguement is just silly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 Anyway, my picks would be Marino Young Irvin Dent Would not put Thomas in and did not see the other players enough/period to judge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sass 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 Dan Marino Steve Young Michael Irvin Richard Dent Harry Carson Derrick Thomas George Young should go in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixrising 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 Wow, lot of pretty good players to choose from. Steve Young Dan Marino Michael Irvin Richard Dent Derrick Thomas Benny Friedman would be a nice choice, he was really the first player to put up huge passing numbers...for years he held the TD pass record. And I'm leaving out Monk and L.C. Greenwood, who both should be in already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 Because his career revolved around longevity and not a dominant stretch of time. He only was in the top 10 in receptions 4 times, top 10 in rec. yards 3 times, and top 10 in rec. TDs once. So while I can certainly see those who want to vote for him based on career numbers, I do see the arguement for those who vote for the more dominant players not wanting Monk in. Why can't the Baseball HoF adopt this philosophy a bit more? Then we'd have Jim Rice in the Hall, and not Don Sutton. [/hijack] The heck? Sutton is much better than Rice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Astro Report post Posted January 12, 2005 When are Thurman Thomas and Warren Moon elegable? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest sek69 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 LC Greenwood and his GOLD SHOES OF DOOM~! should have been in the Hall years ago but he probably won't get in at all because there's already people who grumble that there's too many 70s Steelers in the Hall. I say fuck those people, the Steelers of the 70s had arguably the greatest collection of talent in football history and every one of them deserve to be inducted. If I'm right and Greenwood gets jobbed again, I'd vote for the following: Marino Irvin Grimm Dent Monk Token old timer that seems to make the list every year that no one under 80 remembers. Personally I don't think Steve Young is HOF-worthy, he just happened to be lucky enough to be in SF when Joe Montana moved on. He inherited a pretty stacked team, so it wasn't like he was winning games on his own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B. Brian Brunzell 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 Derrick Thomas should get elected. His stats speak for themselves, and he was a good guy off the field as well. He was the best pass-rushing OLB of all-time not named Lawrence Taylor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 He got alot of Sacks. The most overrated stat in pro sports. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sass 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 When are Thurman Thomas and Warren Moon elegable? 2006. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MARTYEWR 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 I'll go with Dan Marino, Steve Young, Michael Irvin, Richard Dent, Russ Grimm, and George Young. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 how long has Reggie White been out of the NFL, 4 years? they should bypass that last year...he's gettin in first ballot anyway... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 I think the NFL has already said they won't waive that rule. They haven't done it up to now for anyone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Gecko Report post Posted January 13, 2005 When are the inductees announced? I'm actually somewhat interested in this year's class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 I think the NFL has already said they won't waive that rule. They haven't done it up to now for anyone else. yeah but how often has someone so important to the game died a year before he's eligible for induction? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 When are the inductees announced? I'm actually somewhat interested in this year's class. Day before the Super Bowl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
