Exslade ZX 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Yea, just a 'theory' I guess. Doubt it's the case, but still. Decided to check the TNA site since I hadn't been there so long, and saw the Against all Odds logo. If Bret Hart ever was to become a part of the TNA roster, it'd be the perfect logo. Not only does it look like his logo.. But it has a heart (hart) in the middle, which I just thought was, interesting. Once again, just 'speculation' and I doubt it will happen, (I'm not even a Hart fan), but thought I'd bring it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Well, the logo would make it perfect for sure. But there is no reason for him to show up and it's not like he helped that one fed. I think we are more likely to see Hitman show up for the WWE Hall of Fame than in TNA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ShootingStylesPress Report post Posted January 21, 2005 That's a spade, not a heart. You know, a spade, like the card. Like odds. Like Against All Odds. That's actually not even close to being a symbol for Bret. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exslade ZX 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 That's a spade, not a heart. You know, a spade, like the card. Like odds. Like Against All Odds. That's actually not even close to being a symbol for Bret. Ahh...so it is, didn't see the bottom. >_> But there's no way you can say it's not even close...it looks pretty much like the logo on his shirt in the pic under it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Coincidence, like that Warrior-esque vignette promoting that wrestler from the Red Shirt Security. (No, it's not the good one) I don't see Hart being in another promotion any time soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slickster 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Well, in any case I hope he leads the Invasion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Wasn't the Invasion (almost) four years ago? God it feels like it was just yesterday, that's how bad it was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2005 Maybe Tito Ortiz will challenge Jeff Jarret for the NWA title. As you can see Tito's shorts have flames on it...the same type of flames that is used in the TNA logo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted January 22, 2005 Didn't VampireWarrior/Gangrel have flames on his boots like that? VAMPIRE WARRIOR vs. JEFF JARRETT! Only $29.95! (I say VW because TNA can't use the other name unless they wanted to pay for it) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2005 The only thing Gangrel will be remember for is his Seinfeld puffy shirt and the goth pimp cup full of welches grape juice which he would mist to intemidate his opponets. I would like to see Bret Hart manage Teddy Hart in TNA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted January 22, 2005 Never insult Gangrel... he was awesome. He just had a little bit of a gut on him, that's all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest netslob Report post Posted January 22, 2005 He just hit a little bit of a gut on him, that's all. hence the baggy shirt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted January 22, 2005 I've seen people more out of shape... OK, all of them were mainly the fat guys who were pushed to the moon (cough:Viscera/Mabel:cough) I just noticed I put "hit" instead of "had" in the previous post. Whoops... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slickster 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2005 Don't forget Road Dogg/BG James. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted January 22, 2005 Road Dogg had a few reasons for his push: He had incredible mic skills (ignoring the 1 incident where he said the wrong city name), while Gangrel rarely said anything, and when he did, it wasn't that good. Also, as part of DX, he had merchandise sales, while Gangrel had nothing. Once DX ended though, Road Dogg was not long for the WWE world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheLastBoyscout Report post Posted January 24, 2005 Yea, just a 'theory' I guess. Doubt it's the case, but still. Decided to check the TNA site since I hadn't been there so long, and saw the Against all Odds logo. If Bret Hart ever was to become a part of the TNA roster, it'd be the perfect logo. Not only does it look like his logo.. But it has a heart (hart) in the middle, which I just thought was, interesting. Once again, just 'speculation' and I doubt it will happen, (I'm not even a Hart fan), but thought I'd bring it up. Maybe he's coming to lead the Invasion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2005 I love how the same people who bitch about Gangrel being fat will proudly proclaim FOLEY IS GOD. I'd also love to see Bret managing Teddy in TNA, but I doubt it'll ever happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 Wasn't the Invasion (almost) four years ago? God it feels like it was just yesterday, that's how bad it was. Looking back on the Invasion I actually have some fairly fond memories: -Tommy Dreamer and RVD running in on RAW -Heyman reforming ECW (bastardized version) -The Austin/Angle wars -RVD's Hardcore title reign -Lance Storm winning the IC title -Austin's wicked heel turn which was some really funny shit - Seeing WCW titles defended on WWF TV -The Dudley Boyz getting to win ECW, WWF, and WCW tag titles I know this has fuck all to do with TNA but I feel the Invasion was vastly underated. We got to see some wicked matches, and some stuff we never thought we'd ever see on WWF programming Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 In your dreams. Bret would rather advertise his 3-part autobiography on TV and get a cut of any future DVDs with the devil he knows than get none of that by trying again with the devil he doesn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 I don't really care about the substance of this thread at all, but I feel it's extremely necessary to point out that if Gangrel will be remembered for anything, it will be his cool fire entrance, not his stupid blood cup or puffy shirt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted January 25, 2005 Wasn't the Invasion (almost) four years ago? God it feels like it was just yesterday, that's how bad it was. Looking back on the Invasion I actually have some fairly fond memories: -Tommy Dreamer and RVD running in on RAW -Heyman reforming ECW (bastardized version) -The Austin/Angle wars -RVD's Hardcore title reign -Lance Storm winning the IC title -Austin's wicked heel turn which was some really funny shit - Seeing WCW titles defended on WWF TV -The Dudley Boyz getting to win ECW, WWF, and WCW tag titles I know this has fuck all to do with TNA but I feel the Invasion was vastly underated. We got to see some wicked matches, and some stuff we never thought we'd ever see on WWF programming 1. Austin vs. Angle What did this have to do with the WCW or ECW Wrestlers? 2. Lance Storms IC Title Win: How did this make Storm look good? He lost the title 2 weeks later and was jobbed out for the rest of his career. 3. Austin Again... A WWF GUY who had bad mouthed WCW so many times you wouldn't be able to keep track. 4. Tommy Dreamer & RVD; Heyman Reforming ECW: Too bad ECW became the Alliance 53 minutes later. Cool moment... but it was pointless because it just made the Angle even worse when they became the Alliance. 5. WCW Titles: They meant shit, and were treated like shit. Dudleyz winning WCW, ECW, WWF Tag Titles: For WCW Tag, see #5. Titles mean nothing in wrestling unless it's the World Title. Everything about the Invasion angle was fucked up, everything was porbably made as bad as possible intentionally to show how much WCW sucked (WCW's top heels in the angle: AUSTIN, AUSTIN, AND AUSTIN), and how pathetic ECW was when the only guys to be part of ECW have been working for WWF and were treated like Jobbers already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DOWNola II Report post Posted January 25, 2005 The one thing I liked about the Invasion was that last match at the Invasion PPV. So really, the only thing I enjoyed during the entire Invasion period, was it's ending. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 I enjoyed the opening video to Survivor Series 2001 when they showed the various WWF Opening logos throughout the years... And for one last time used "The World Wrestling Federation, for over 30 years the revolutionary force in sports entertainment." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted January 26, 2005 If there's one thing WWE can't fuck up is their special video packages and tributes... except for the Benoit/Kane one for Bad Blood last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted January 26, 2005 Wasn't the Invasion (almost) four years ago? God it feels like it was just yesterday, that's how bad it was. Looking back on the Invasion I actually have some fairly fond memories: -Tommy Dreamer and RVD running in on RAW -Heyman reforming ECW (bastardized version) -The Austin/Angle wars -RVD's Hardcore title reign -Lance Storm winning the IC title -Austin's wicked heel turn which was some really funny shit - Seeing WCW titles defended on WWF TV -The Dudley Boyz getting to win ECW, WWF, and WCW tag titles I know this has fuck all to do with TNA but I feel the Invasion was vastly underated. We got to see some wicked matches, and some stuff we never thought we'd ever see on WWF programming 1. Austin vs. Angle What did this have to do with the WCW or ECW Wrestlers? 2. Lance Storms IC Title Win: How did this make Storm look good? He lost the title 2 weeks later and was jobbed out for the rest of his career. 3. Austin Again... A WWF GUY who had bad mouthed WCW so many times you wouldn't be able to keep track. 4. Tommy Dreamer & RVD; Heyman Reforming ECW: Too bad ECW became the Alliance 53 minutes later. Cool moment... but it was pointless because it just made the Angle even worse when they became the Alliance. 5. WCW Titles: They meant shit, and were treated like shit. Dudleyz winning WCW, ECW, WWF Tag Titles: For WCW Tag, see #5. Titles mean nothing in wrestling unless it's the World Title. Everything about the Invasion angle was fucked up, everything was porbably made as bad as possible intentionally to show how much WCW sucked (WCW's top heels in the angle: AUSTIN, AUSTIN, AND AUSTIN), and how pathetic ECW was when the only guys to be part of ECW have been working for WWF and were treated like Jobbers already. That was just my opinion, but...wow. I bet you're the kind of dude who watches wrestling only to point out negatives and laugh at fuck ups aren't you? My advise: Try watching as a fan instead of a critic sometime. You won't have much to write about here but you may find yourself enjoying the odd match from time to time. OK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted January 26, 2005 That was just my opinion, but...wow. I bet you're the kind of dude who watches wrestling only to point out negatives and laugh at fuck ups aren't you? My advise: Try watching as a fan instead of a critic sometime. You won't have much to write about here but you may find yourself enjoying the odd match from time to time. OK So because he didn't like the Invasion he automatically is a guy who points out negatives and laughs at fuckups? A lot of people wanted to sit back and love the Invasion since it was OMG WWF V. WCW!!!! but they completely dropped the ball on it. I don't agree with LooneyTune often but he's absolutely right on some accounts like the WCW Titles being defended thing. Having about 1000 titles floating around and changing every week was horrible and caused all the titles to lose a bit of prestige and become watered down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted January 26, 2005 I wanted to enjoy the Invasion Angle, but I think Vince Russo could've booked it better, and I rarely ever say anything positive about Russo's booking methods. When looking at some of the people McMahon brought in over the course of the next year (Hall, Nash, Flair, Hogan, Hennig, Dustin Rhodes, Scott Steiner etc.) it just shows he didn't care about making the Invasion work. Instead, the WWF wrestlers complained about WCW wrestlers not being able to work the WWF style, thus pushing them down the card (DDP JOBBED TO THE UNDERTAKERS WIFE!), and making room for such awesome WWF vs. WCW matches like Kurt Angle vs. Steve Austin, Test vs. Kane, Test vs. The Undertaker, Steve Austin vs. The Rock... matches we've seen enough times already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
