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Apparently my school had this guy booked to speak as well, but has since cancelled him. Would have been slightly interesting to hear him speak, in a trainwreck kind of way. We didn't cancel Ron Jeremy's appearance though!

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Apparently my school had this guy booked to speak as well, but has since cancelled him. Would have been slightly interesting to hear him speak, in a trainwreck kind of way. We didn't cancel Ron Jeremy's appearance though!

What school do you go to? I might want to send my kids there (when they finally pop out at least)

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Eastern Washington University. The funny part is I didn't hear any protests about Churchill coming. Hell I didn't know about it until he'd already been canceled. Yet there are plenty of people bitching about Ron Jeremy because he's a porn star.

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Tends to go down the toilet when you start praising a heinous terrorist attack which resulted in the deaths of 3000+ innocent people, started 1.5 American invasions of Muslim countries, and completely wrecked the US economy til now as A Good Thing That We Had Coming.

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Sorry, from the first half of your sentence i thought you were taking about hiroshima,an attack with no warning which killed many more people in the name of an ideology

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No, that was a military attack by uniformed soldiers in an officially declared war which the Japanese started in the first place with their sneak attack on Pearl Harbor.

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Guest Salacious Crumb
Yes, an attack on Civillians....sound familiar

No, it was during a declared war you idiot. It's a well known fact that dropping the bombs on Japan caused far fewer deaths than continuing the war. The emperor had no intention of surrendering and millions of people would've been killed during an invasion. It actually saved lives. It's completely different than terrorists only targetting non-military people.

 

But I wouldn't expect a stupid 12 year old like you to have the wisdom or thought process to be able to figure something like that out. Either that or you're a lame troll. I would pray to God if you're for real that your parents didn't have further children. You alone are too much pollution for the gene pool.

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I love the american history books, such revisionism. A bomb was dropped on innocent people, who were going about their daily lives and who were not a direct threat to the US.

Basically if an America kills someone who doesnt believe in American values, its ok, but when it is the other way around, that person is a terrorist. Honestly, stop your pathetic imperalistic attitude, obviously america is screwed with people such as yourself as its future. Run off back to the tv and believe whatever they tell you. Harping on about freedom and liberty , it is just a shame america doesnt practice what it preaches.

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Guest Salacious Crumb

Ok, you are a troll then. Nobody could be as stupid as you on purpose. Even INXS isn't as extreme as you.

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I love the american history books, such revisionism. A bomb was dropped on innocent people, who were going about their daily lives and who were not a direct threat to the US.

Basically if an America kills someone who doesnt believe in American values, its ok, but when it is the other way around, that person is a terrorist. Honestly, stop your pathetic imperalistic attitude, obviously america is screwed with people such as yourself as its future. Run off back to the tv and believe whatever they tell you. Harping on about freedom and liberty , it is just a shame america doesnt practice what it preaches.

Anyone else hear Mohammed Hassan's voice when reading that post? Guess that gimmick was effective after all.

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I love the american history books, such revisionism. A bomb was dropped on innocent people, who were going about their daily lives and who were not a direct threat to the US.

Basically if an America kills someone who doesnt believe in American values, its ok, but when it is the other way around, that person is a terrorist. Honestly, stop your pathetic imperalistic attitude, obviously america is screwed with people such as yourself as its future. Run off back to the tv and believe whatever they tell you. Harping on about freedom and liberty , it is just a shame america doesnt practice what it preaches.

Oooookkkkk. So when Japan attacked us, we're not allowed to fight back, because that would be evil and wrong? What are we supposed to do, just surrender and say "Well it's ok you attacked first because you aren't evil America, but we can't fight back because we would take innocent lives so here take our country. Hirohito is kamisama!"?

 

Go back to harassing billygoats on your bridge.

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Frankly, since it stopped Operation "Cherry Blossoms at Night", I'm fairly sure we should have dropped at least one bomb.

 

The second one is justifiable simply for the fact that the Japanese Military had seized control and refused to surrender, despite what the diplomats wanted. Considering Operation Olympic would have had probably in excess of 1,000,000 Million casualties on the American side, and likely 20x that on the Japanese side (If one looks at the spike in casualties and last stands as one got closer and closer to the Japanese Mainland), I'd say the second bomb was just as necessary.

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Slightly off-topic, but I think adam_bomb needs to re-read the rules:

 

From now on, the rules are going to be pretty simple.

 

1. No trolling.

 

Okay, maybe just the first one.

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I love the american history books, such revisionism.  A bomb was dropped on innocent people, who were going about their daily lives and who were not a direct threat to the US.

Basically if an America kills someone who doesnt believe in American values, its ok, but when it is the other way around, that person is a terrorist.  Honestly, stop your pathetic imperalistic attitude, obviously america is screwed with people such as yourself as its future. Run off back to the tv and believe whatever they tell you. Harping on about freedom and liberty , it is just a shame america doesnt practice what it preaches.

Anyone else hear Mohammed Hassan's voice when reading that post? Guess that gimmick was effective after all.

I'm waiting for adam to come in, shout DURKA DURKA FALAFEL and run out.

 

Good to see blind anti-Americanism is alive and well. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.

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What people don't understand about Japan in WW II is that the civilians had basically been brainwashed. They would have fought to the death because their emperor (or at least the military) was telling them to. If the US had mounted a full invasion, they would have had to kill hundreds of thousands (or even millions) of men, women, and even children. US casualties would have been huge.

 

So dropping the two atomic bombs saved many more lives in the long run. Anyone who can't understand that is an idiot.

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I love the american history books, such revisionism.

Have you ever actually read one?

 

Who are you? What country are you from? Do you even know any Americans? Why do you hate us so much?

 

A bomb was dropped on innocent people, who were going about their daily lives and who were not a direct threat to the US.

Wrong. Both Hiroshima and Nagasaki contained military depots, factories, and other "legitimate" wartime targets. The civilian deaths were nothing more than collateral damage. Ghastly, tragic, horrifying, deeply regrettable collateral damage. But civilian deaths are unavoidable in any military attack on any major city.

 

Basically if an America kills someone who doesnt believe in American values, its ok, but when it is the other way around, that person is a terrorist.

Wrong again. If someone (who may or may not believe in American values) engages in unprovoked and brutal attacks upon innocent people, then they are by definition a terrorist and should indeed be killed.

 

Honestly, stop your pathetic imperalistic attitude, obviously america is screwed with people such as yourself as its future.

Its present, actually. Most of us here are full-grown adults. And if you're gonna critisize us, for christ's sake at least try to spell our language correctly.

 

Run off back to the tv and believe whatever they tell you.

Watch TV? I make a TV show. (Yeah, it's a local pro wrestling show, but still.)

 

Harping on about freedom and liberty , it is just a shame america doesnt practice what it preaches.

So who else would you give the credit to for creating and spreading democracy around the globe? (And don't say the Greeks.)

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Been listening to talk radio lately, the conservative hosts are having a collective orgasm over this, saying this is how all non-conservatives REALLY think.

I guess after Limbaugh lost his hearing, he developed mental telepathy?

 

Man, how I hate conservative talk radio. There's intelligent conservatives out there who use facts and logic to prove their points (George Will, William Buckley, William Safire). Then there's TV and radio talk show hosts that use exaggeration and ad hominems to assault the character of those they disagree with (Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly).

 

 

I love the american history books, such revisionism. A bomb was dropped on innocent people, who were going about their daily lives and who were not a direct threat to the US.

 

I love revisonist message board posts that omit important facts like (a) we were at war with them at the time, because (b) they attacked us first.

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Guest thebigjig
Apparently he went to college and studied Troll Posting 101

I don't agree with him but I don't really see how what he's doing is blasted as trolling while other 'established' members of the current events section often say ridiculous shit that isn't decried as such. It's sort of the pot calling the kettle black

 

Anyway, here's an interesting question. If this professor had written an essay describing why he thinks African Americans are inferior and should be sent back to Africa, would the same 'free speech' protest fervor be sweeping the university? I see a double standard. It's also open to debate because it's hard to defend either such argument.

 

Also, If you claim the professor has a right to make such statements (as I do), you're in danger of being labeled anti-American without taking in the fact that you can disagree whole heartedly with something and still believe that person should have a right to say it. The criticism works both ways. If I were to defend an essay like the example I listed, I could be labeled racist.

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Does he have a right to say it? Yes.

Should Colorado taxpayers be livid that their tax dollars are funding this blithering imbecile poisoning the minds of their sons and daughters? Also, yes.

 

Apparently, Colorado is going to try and fire him for incompetence. The ACLU has finally circled the wagons around Churchill. This should get more interesting.

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Poor Winston Churchill.

Sharing a last name with this moron.

 

Good thing he's dead otherwise the media would have been interviewing him until he did die.

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Does he have a right to say it? Yes.

Should Colorado taxpayers be livid that their tax dollars are funding this blithering imbecile poisoning the minds of their sons and daughters? Also, yes.

If we want kids to think for themselves, shouldn't they be exposed to both good and bad ideas?

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Guest MikeSC
Does he have a right to say it?  Yes.

Should Colorado taxpayers be livid that their tax dollars are funding this blithering imbecile poisoning the minds of their sons and daughters?  Also, yes.

If we want kids to think for themselves, shouldn't they be exposed to both good and bad ideas?

Churchill has said that there was no organized Holocaust.

 

Don't you want teachers who don't teach outright lies?

 

And ask people like Michelle Malkin how willing to listen to opposing viewpoints college campuses (or is it campii?) are.

-=Mike

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