Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 as we seen they are pushing this Contraversy of JBL and now the Big Show making jibes at Batistia to try and coax him to Smackdown to face them. I had started to develop an idea possible to whats going on. Granted this storyline has been written way in advance and the only thing in doubt is at our end watching it. But heres the Theory. The next couple of weeks we will see Batista still be indecisive on going to Smackdown for his Main event matchup. all the while we see backstage segments of Bischoff, Long and Batista in the midst of complex negotiations. You see that Bischoff is truly hedging and wants to go through every and each fine print and point all the while seemingly trying to convince Batista to remain on Raw. HHH and Ric Flair continue pushing him to Smackdown even going so far as to barge in during the contract negotiations to the point where they are thrown out. One the second to last week HHH all but threatens Bischoff demanding Batista to "Have his shot in Smackdown". The week of WM Bischoff comes out and says...they have concluded the Negotiations and end it at that. HHH thinks that Batista is on his Way to Smackdown and congratulates him, Batista just smiles that Big Pimp know something you don't Smile and they go through the show, neither confirming nor denying he indeed made the cross.. At Wrestlemania... JBL or the Big Show comes out as Champion, (Backstage vid of HHH watching and waiting them to call out Batistia).... His opponent...... EDGE! Now hear me out. As many have said here, Edge's character has been driven to the point of insanty to become the World champion. and he now has loss vs HHH as clean as you get. The character of Edge would have no where to go, at least not as a tweener heel. (of course HHH is destroying the furnature in his dressing room) Edge wins or loses thats not the issue, though I'd guess he may win. After the Match HHH comes out Pissed off, and demands Bischoff come out and explain himself... Then out comes Batista...in his Best Suit looking quite proud of himself. Batista then explains that he was tempted to go over to Smackdown and take his vengeance on Big Show and or JBL, however he then saw the full footage... HHH of course denies knowing what he's talking about, so Batista calls up the footage.. they show the same interviews with JBL and Bigshow, but at the end of each HHH is there thanking and Congratulating them on their acting ability. HHH tries to explain but Batista cuts him off, and says he has to go get ready, But he will see the Game in 30 to an hour, In the Ring... Now of course the drawback would be Edge in the shot vs JBL. Because many have already assumed Cena to take on JBL. Which is probably why this wouldn't work. However i'd probably suggest that Cena would get wrapped up in a US title angle that would block him out of a WM world championship match. He could lose the US title at Mania, and Edge could win the title and therefore regain his sanity as it were. This of course would lead to Edge vs Cena. Now this is probably too creative for the creative think tank of the WWE. But like i said its a what if.... your thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 I don't think they'll go into Wrestlemania without us knowing the main events... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Worst. Idea. Ever. While it makes sense in the storyline to be somwhat vague about Batista being on Raw or Smackdown, it makes no sense to keep that up until the day of the WM. The fans get dicked around too much for them to even tease the idea of Batista not facing Hunter at WM XXI beyond mid February at the latest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myxamatosis 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 And the payoff or surprise is Edge? C'mon? Edge?? Road Warrior Animal, now that's a payoff! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Frank_Nabbit Report post Posted February 8, 2005 I thought we dumped the Fantasy Booking folder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fook_Theta Report post Posted February 8, 2005 I haven't been checking around obsessively, but I haven't seen one person online take this feud twist seriously. Nothing, nadda. Which I almost want to bet that they're going to do some major zany shakeup as a HHH/JBL-shoots-on-internet gimmick. The other thing is Orton and this concussion angle. Although that's probably a setup for taking him off TV for a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 he now has loss vs HHH as clean as you get Didn't Batista spinebuster him after a ref bump? What I don't get about this storyline is that Bischoff -notorious for spending money on big contracts- can't afford Batista? They never really established how much money each brand gets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 he now has loss vs HHH as clean as you get Didn't Batista spinebuster him after a ref bump? What I don't get about this storyline is that Bischoff -notorious for spending money on big contracts- can't afford Batista? They never really established how much money each brand gets. as I said...As clean as you can get...for a HHH match heh. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just call me Dan 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Cena is winning the tournament, and the Smackdown tease is just that. They have been building towards HHH/Batista for 3+ months. Once Show goes down at NWO, Cena is the only unbeaten left on Smackdown. It's a lock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Worst. Idea. Ever. While it makes sense in the storyline to be somwhat vague about Batista being on Raw or Smackdown, it makes no sense to keep that up until the day of the WM. The fans get dicked around too much for them to even tease the idea of Batista not facing Hunter at WM XXI beyond mid February at the latest. sniff snifff but but but , Ahh hell it was a crapy idea, But its still better than Katie Vick Dag nabbit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Katie Vick was stupid- but at least it didn't completely dick around with Wrestlemania like yours Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 I kind of dig this idea, but I'm a mark for unpredictable title booking like this, and I'm also really looking forward to the payoff with Edge. In reality it would never work though. Edge is an established heel, so unless Show has the belt it doesn't make sense to put him against JBL on the biggest show of the year, and you CAN'T go into Mania without firm top matches unless it's a unique situation with red hot performers, like the Mania 4 tourny with a ton of top names and the promise of an Andre-Hogan rematch, or Mania X where you knew what one title match would be and you knew Bret would be in the other one. In your scenario, for the sake of argument, if Batista would take the match with the SD champion, what would be done with HHH? Orton again? Edge in another heel-heel match? The logistics are off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Celtic Jobber 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 I thought of this scenario the night of the Royal Rumble... What if WWE moves Batista to Smackdown and puts the inevitable Dave VS HHH match on hold for a while... Batista destroys JBL in under a minute for the WWE Title at Wrestlemania XXI, then he goes through the entire SD! roster (destroying most of them in glorified squashes) over the spring and summer months. Then at Summerslam 2005, finally have HHH VS Batista in a WWE Title VS World Title unification match Batista wins, ending the horrible roster split once and for all? I'm not saying that putting off Batista VS HHH would be a good idea, but I wouldn't put it past WWE to hold it off for several months just to piss off the fans. I do however think ending the roster split would be a great idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karc 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Sadly, Trivia247, your idea is pretty much something WWE would do as opposed to not do. What we are seeing now is a bunch of filler, and with the way business is tanking, they need to stop dicking around and have the WM card pretty much down by now so that they can sell the hell out of it. They didn't have to do that last year because people were buying the show on the "20" name, and that was it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 JBL Vs. Edge For the WWE Title. At WrestleMania. :::shoots you::: Did you NOT just see Edge have one of the worst, most silent, main event title matches ever in Raw history? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taker666 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 All I'am gonna say is, this Triple H/Batista/SmackDown storyline is proabally the best storyline the WWE came up with in a long time,I loving this and it definlly has me hooked. I love Brand Vs Brand Storylines. we all know that its gonne be Batista/Triple H for the World Title and Cena/JBL for the WWE title. but I can't wait till the big blow-off when Batista decides to stay on Raw and challenges Triple H for the title! the crowd is gonna pop huge for that. or maybe there might be a twist in the storyline somewhere. well, whatever happens. I'am loving this storyline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Modern Man's Hustle 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Just to make sure I'm following...your big twist is to reveal that HHH was behind it all along? I think that's fairly obvious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 (edited) Did you NOT just see Edge have one of the worst, most silent, main event title matches ever in Raw history? I would attribute that to it simply being a heel-heel title match. They rarely get a considerable amount of heat, basically because the fans just have no idea who to cheer for. But hey, blame it on whatever you want. Edited February 8, 2005 by NY Untouchable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Yeah, the idea of waiting until WM to see if HHH faces Batista doesn't work on about ten different levels. What they need to do is have Batista considering the move to Smackdown until he finds out that HHH was behind the video all along on his own. Then, after he shows the footage, he gets incredibly angry for a second, and decisively powerbombs HHH into the ground three times and walks off. Then, Cena can go ahead with his shot at JBL, and you've got HHH and Batista all ready to go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Have you ever seen a Japanese wrestling match? The Japanese crowds are always quiet. They aren't rambunctious fans like in North America. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Teckneek Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Here my updated WM21 card: World Heavyweight Championship: Batista vs HHH WWE Championship: John Cena vs JBL Undertaker & Kane vs Snitsky and Heidenrich Kurt Angle vs HBK--HBK will win the Angle invitational on March 29 because Smackdown will be in Texas, then Angle will challange HBK at WM21 for the Gold medals. Edge vs The Rock United States Championship Big Show vs Orlando Jordon(Champion)--OJ will win the US title on the SD! before NWO with help from JBL....Then at NWO, OJ will interfere in Big Show's match and cost Show the WWE Championship setting up their US title match at WM21. World Tag Team Championship: Y2J & Benoit vs Tajari & Regal Eddie Gurerro vs Booker T Randy Orton Vs Christian--Ref will get knocked out, Orton will get double teamed by Christian and Tyson Thomko and Mick Foley will run in and save Orton Cruiserweight Championship: London vs Mysterio Women's Championship: Stacy vs Trish WWE Tag Team Championship: Bashums vs Dudleys Intercontinental Championship: Hassan vs Shelton Benjamin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Nice try. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMann2003 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Here my updated WM21 card: World Heavyweight Championship: Batista vs HHH WWE Championship: John Cena vs JBL Undertaker & Kane vs Snitsky and Heidenrich Kurt Angle vs HBK--HBK will win the Angle invitational on March 29 because Smackdown will be in Texas, then Angle will challange HBK at WM21 for the Gold medals. Edge vs The Rock United States Championship Big Show vs Orlando Jordon(Champion)--OJ will win the US title on the SD! before NWO with help from JBL....Then at NWO, OJ will interfere in Big Show's match and cost Show the WWE Championship setting up their US title match at WM21. World Tag Team Championship: Y2J & Benoit vs Tajari & Regal Eddie Gurerro vs Booker T Randy Orton Vs Christian--Ref will get knocked out, Orton will get double teamed by Christian and Tyson Thomko and Mick Foley will run in and save Orton Cruiserweight Championship: London vs Mysterio Women's Championship: Stacy vs Trish WWE Tag Team Championship: Bashums vs Dudleys Intercontinental Championship: Hassan vs Shelton Benjamin Not a bad card Too many matches though, WrestleMania isn't gonna be 4+ hrs this year right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Katie Vick was stupid- but at least it didn't completely dick around with Wrestlemania like yours God you are an asshole, and a small, ugly asshole with bad hair. Thats the worst. Check ya'self. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Open the Muggy Gate 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Here my updated WM21 card: World Heavyweight Championship: Batista vs HHH WWE Championship: John Cena vs JBL Undertaker & Kane vs Snitsky and Heidenrich Kurt Angle vs HBK--HBK will win the Angle invitational on March 29 because Smackdown will be in Texas, then Angle will challange HBK at WM21 for the Gold medals. Edge vs The Rock United States Championship Big Show vs Orlando Jordon(Champion)--OJ will win the US title on the SD! before NWO with help from JBL....Then at NWO, OJ will interfere in Big Show's match and cost Show the WWE Championship setting up their US title match at WM21. World Tag Team Championship: Y2J & Benoit vs Tajari & Regal Eddie Gurerro vs Booker T Randy Orton Vs Christian--Ref will get knocked out, Orton will get double teamed by Christian and Tyson Thomko and Mick Foley will run in and save Orton Cruiserweight Championship: London vs Mysterio Women's Championship: Stacy vs Trish WWE Tag Team Championship: Bashums vs Dudleys Intercontinental Championship: Hassan vs Shelton Benjamin That looks pretty good. The only thing I don't see is OJ getting a US title shot or being US champion. Someone else may step up to the table before OJ. Maybe Rene or *shudder* Holly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Teckneek Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Here my updated WM21 card: World Heavyweight Championship: Batista vs HHH WWE Championship: John Cena vs JBL Undertaker & Kane vs Snitsky and Heidenrich Kurt Angle vs HBK--HBK will win the Angle invitational on March 29 because Smackdown will be in Texas, then Angle will challange HBK at WM21 for the Gold medals. Edge vs The Rock United States Championship Big Show vs Orlando Jordon(Champion)--OJ will win the US title on the SD! before NWO with help from JBL....Then at NWO, OJ will interfere in Big Show's match and cost Show the WWE Championship setting up their US title match at WM21. World Tag Team Championship: Y2J & Benoit vs Tajari & Regal Eddie Gurerro vs Booker T Randy Orton Vs Christian--Ref will get knocked out, Orton will get double teamed by Christian and Tyson Thomko and Mick Foley will run in and save Orton Cruiserweight Championship: London vs Mysterio Women's Championship: Stacy vs Trish WWE Tag Team Championship: Bashums vs Dudleys Intercontinental Championship: Hassan vs Shelton Benjamin That looks pretty good. The only thing I don't see is OJ getting a US title shot or being US champion. Someone else may step up to the table before OJ. Maybe Rene or *shudder* Holly. The reason OJ makes sense is that all the cabinet has belts but him, and jbl said a while back OJ needs a belt. And this would give Big Show a match at WM21. It makes the most sense. OJ challanges Cena on the Smackdown before NWO, then JBL causes Cena the US Championship to OJ. Now the whole cabinet have every belt. Now Cena more inraged will be determined to win the WWE title tournament because JBL cost him his beloved US title. OJ runs in on JBL vs Big Show match and causes Show the belt, setting up a fued between OJ and Show. You gotta think how to fit everyone on the card, and this fued makes the most sense. Otherwise Show would be off the card. The whole cabinet will loose all of their belts at WM21. JBL looses WWE title to Cena OJ looses US title to Big Show Bashums loose WWE tag titles to Dudleys I think it makes sense, but this is WWE we're talking about. We shall see what happens..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Here my updated WM21 card: World Heavyweight Championship: Batista vs HHH WWE Championship: John Cena vs JBL Undertaker & Kane vs Snitsky and Heidenrich Kurt Angle vs HBK--HBK will win the Angle invitational on March 29 because Smackdown will be in Texas, then Angle will challange HBK at WM21 for the Gold medals. Edge vs The Rock United States Championship Big Show vs Orlando Jordon(Champion)--OJ will win the US title on the SD! before NWO with help from JBL....Then at NWO, OJ will interfere in Big Show's match and cost Show the WWE Championship setting up their US title match at WM21. World Tag Team Championship: Y2J & Benoit vs Tajari & Regal Eddie Gurerro vs Booker T Randy Orton Vs Christian--Ref will get knocked out, Orton will get double teamed by Christian and Tyson Thomko and Mick Foley will run in and save Orton Cruiserweight Championship: London vs Mysterio Women's Championship: Stacy vs Trish WWE Tag Team Championship: Bashums vs Dudleys Intercontinental Championship: Hassan vs Shelton Benjamin four problems... One; no chance in hell that Jordan gets a WM spot after being a lackey for this long. It will be Champion Vs Champion. Two; Too bad Vince doesn't think he needs the rock for WrestleMania. So much for Rock/Edge. three; Rey Mysterio doesn't work the CW level anymore. He doesn't want that stigma anymore. He's now a tag teamer/mid carder. So that blows your London/Mysterio idea. four; Shawn Vs Angle is a lock. However your idea won't happen. As WM occurs just a few days after March 29th, there's no way they are setting it up litterally 3 days before the PPV. That doesn't mean Shawn doesn't appear on that date but the match will be set up before that here's a my more realistic and likely to occur wm card wwe title match Champion Vs Champion JBL Vs John Cena world title match Triple H Vs Batistia Undertaker and Kane Vs Heidenreich and Snitsky (How do they set it up? Easy. By orders of Vince McMahon or even Linda McMahon to even further sell it; have these two sets team up since they have been terrorizing each brand and they want it to come to a end @ WM.) Brand Vs Brand Best of Three Series (IMO, it's the best way to intelligently use three interpromotional matches without having to ignore logic gaps) Kurt Angle Vs HBK Canadian Violence Connection Vs Latino Express (The idea here is that the CVC and LE can't get along right enough but each GM has selected them because they represent the best the brand has to offer, so they need "squash their issues. and win it for the team" type sell. The real reason is that all 4 men deserve a big match but they can't have each men wrestle seperately, so lump them into one major match that will be fresher considering the fact CVC and LE have fought each other alot over the years and use it for a good match to extend each feud) 20 Man Raw Vs Smackdown Battle Royal Raw: Christian, Tomko, Maven, Hurricane, Rhyno,Rosey, Venis, Richards, Dean, Masterpiece Smackdown: The Big Show, Booker T, Jindrak, Reigns, Kenzo, Dupree, Holly, Haas, Jordan, Puder. (It gives everyone a WM payoff; it's traditional almost and it's a decent crowd calmer after a big match) Street Fight Edge Vs Randy Orton (since the rock apprently isn't working WMXXI now; they are basically left out in the cold here. they have a built in history) ic title match Shelton Benjamin Vs Muhammad Hassan cruiserweight title match eight man elimination match Paul London Vs Billy Kidman Vs Nunzio Vs AKIO Vs Spike Vs Funaki Vs Super Crazy(making wwe debut) Vs Psicosis(making his wwe debut) (it might sound weird to see two men making their wwe debut at the same time and @ Mania no less but Vince has been in talks with both men and I can't imagine a better way to bring them in then a big stage like Mania. Mania won't be having a CW one on one match) world tag team title match Le resistance vs tajiri and regal (By force this is all that's left, my dream idea would be for Eugene to come back and reunite with Regal. Thus pissing off Tajiri who attacks Eugene and reteams with Rhyno and sets up a Regal/Eugene Vs Tajiri/Rhyno match but eugene isn't going to back by Mania. By force, we're left with Le Rez. Likely this is a heat match) wwe tag team title match Basham brothers vs dudley boyz (Another unappealing match but Dudleyz hopefully will still be hot enough off their "OMG THEY ARE BACK!" push and it'd be a dismantaling squash) Woman's title match Trish stratus Vs Victoria (Stacy can't wrestle, why would you want her in a match @ Mania? Victoria gives us something decent. It's a meaningless title defense really because we know the title is meaningless but Trish has been a fantastic heel all year, she deserves a spot) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 I definately can understand now that the problem with this is that they can't risk keeping people in the dark about the Card of WM since its a money issue. as I said I already know that they got their own route planned on it, but this was sorta a theory that ties things a certain way thats all.. I didn't take any of the critism personally certain people just seek out moments to be assholes when someone makes an error in judgement, nothing to get annoyed over. Besides nothing was said here that was without a valid point So Calm the fuck down it was a stupid idea of mine, get over yourselves hehehee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest news_gimmick Report post Posted February 9, 2005 Heh, I thought it worked great until you just cut to WrestleMania. Really, I'm just waiting until the moment he gives a massive spinebuster to Trips and we get ready for Mania. So I give you half credit on this idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 Heres what I wouldn't mind seeing.. Batista wrestles JBL and beat him. HHH (who already defended his title vs someone earlier) comes out to congratulate Batista and in the process blurts out that he should be thanking him for setting the whole thing up so that he would go to Smackdown. Batista could never beat him, especially in the Main Event at Wrestlemania. Batista gets pissed off..and then he grabs a mic and challenges HHH to a match. HHH is reluctant at first to accept, but then finally agrees. Batista beats him to win the RAW title as well. Off the air with Batista holding up both Titles.. Eventually, Batista is forced to choose one brand or the other and dump the other brand's belt. Both Bischoff and Teddy Long (or whoever) both compete for him and then he finally chooses one or the other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites