UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Tonight WWE sent a big message... Orton and Edge are not ready for the main event. Orton's been thrown into the mix with Christian and Goat Boy...and Edge's whole "never gotten a shot" gimmick was effectively Pedigreed into the ground. What's next? Do they stretch out Orton's injury thing, and do Randy/Christian at Mania? Or throw Orton and Edge at each other after Orton wins a blowoff against CC? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Uh, Edge got hit by Batista's spinebuster. I call that a overbooked finish to keep Edge strong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Edge losing to Triple H after interference from the guy who is taking the World Title at Mania is a little different than getting punked out by a career midcarder like Christian. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FromBeyondTheGrave Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Uh, Edge wins the title next week, and defends it against Orton in the main event at WrestleMania. Uh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myxamatosis 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 They're not going to give up with Orton. He's been pushed to moon before, give a few months and he'll be back in the Main Event. I mean with Batista winning the belt at Mania, the natural way to go would be a match with Orton. Batista has never beaten Orton is a one-on-one, I believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUTT 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Batista has never beaten Orton is a one-on-one, I believe. Actually, he did. He beat him in the match that knocked Orton out of the running for the title shot at Taboo Tuesday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myxamatosis 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Ah, I've been virtually burned..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 What is with Orton's new "knocked silly almost unconcious" gimmick? Is this supposed to make the fans rally behind or something? I find it rather annoying myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Orton is going to be the Eric Lindros of the WWE... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rrrsh Report post Posted February 8, 2005 The WWE sent a clear message today. They have no clue how to book long term properly and WrestleMania 21 will bomb like WrestleMania 18 did. Edge and Randy Orton should be BOTH Champs going into WM. Orotn should have stayed heel at Summer Slam and after fueding with HHH into the winter, he should now be facing a fresh face at WM Edge should have been traded to Smackdown and should be Champ there right now the second he got so over back at Taboo Tuesday Edge and Orotn, as heels, could be and would be more over and more sucsessful than HHH and JBL. And this stupid notion of making this awesome blowoff of Batista/HHH a Title match therefor making a lot of other wrestlers direction-less going into WM will kill WM 21. This whole event will be heatless other than HHH/Batsita because WWE are morons. Just morons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Modern Man's Hustle 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 I don't think Batista is going to win the World Title at Wrestlemania, either. So far all the guy has shown is that he can win 30 second squash matches against Maven. Putting the strap on him this early is a mistake, no doubt about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 What is with Orton's new "knocked silly almost unconcious" gimmick? Is this supposed to make the fans rally behind or something? I find it rather annoying myself. Lawler seemed to have set the seeds tonight for blaming Orton's recent misfortune on hooking up with Stacy. He never had these problems before meeting her -- but now, he can't help but suffer through a concussion state with almost every match. I wouldn't be surprised if this continues for a few more weeks until Orton finally blames the entire thing on spending time with Stacy, effectively turning him heel in the process. There has to be a reason they've put him together with her and, considering that they've now given up on him as the top face for the time being, this might be the next best thing. I really can't see them going with Randy Orton vs. Christian at WrestleMania -- especially since they've basically ignored Christian since dropping his relationship with Trish a few months ago. But Orton against a relatively high face.....? Perhaps even Rock? That I see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Open the Muggy Gate 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Orton is going to be the Eric Lindros of the WWE... With the way their making the angle, it's reminding me of Chyna back in 2001 when she "broke" her neck and had a "relapse". So let's say Randy is the new Chyna. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest krazykat72 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 They have no clue how to book long term properly and WrestleMania 21 will bomb like WrestleMania 18 did. I think you mean 19, since 18 (Rock/Hogan) was one of the most successful ever. -Paul Jacobi- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Most of the matches at WM18 were slopped together at the last minute (Edge/Booker, Kane/Angle, RVD/Regal, Tag Titles, ect). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Epic Reine 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Not to mention they had the worst fueds. Angle/Kane was over Angle kicking his ass and Edge/Booker was over a shampoo commercial. The original tag team idea of APA vs Chuck/Billy tanked which is why the two other teams were added. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SoZe Report post Posted February 8, 2005 At this point, they might as well trot Randy out there with a "please cheer this man, PLEASE" sign strapped to his chest. It's getting to be pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 I wouldn't be surprised if this continues for a few more weeks until Orton finally blames the entire thing on spending time with Stacy, effectively turning him heel in the process. I think that would probably make him more of a face. Stacy isn't over enough for a babyface to turn on, and become a big heel over. Remember when Austin gave her a stunner in 2003 ? He was still cheered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Actually, the Kane Vs. Kurt Angle match was over Kane costing Kurt Angle a shot at the WWF Title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Epic Reine 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 ...after Angle kicked his ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 I wouldn't be surprised if this continues for a few more weeks until Orton finally blames the entire thing on spending time with Stacy, effectively turning him heel in the process. I think that would probably make him more of a face. Stacy isn't over enough for a babyface to turn on, and become a big heel over. Remember when Austin gave her a stunner in 2003 ? He was still cheered. Austin was cheered for anything. Austin could have hit the Pope with the stunner in Italy and the fans would have went wild. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Deadbolt Report post Posted February 8, 2005 so can we expect edge to main-event wrestlemania possibly in the triple thread: trips vs. batista vs. edge? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exslade ZX 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 so can we expect edge to main-event wrestlemania possibly in the triple thread: trips vs. batista vs. edge? No. Most likely. I don't believe they are going to change from their Batista/HHH main event, which seems to be the biggest selling point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkius Maximus 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 I have no friggin idea what WWE is planning for Edge...Nor do I really think they know either. Edge right now, is at a very important phase of his gimmick, if not his career. If he doesn't win a world title right now, while his entire character is obsessed over it, then he's basicly going to be a failure. Too many times choking can kill a character DEAD. I can see Edge feuding with Batista after WM, but they won't put the world title on him. No heel, since Summer of 2002, has held a world title on Raw except for Hunter. Brock was the last person to do so before he jumped to SD. That, is just a siiick statistic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blade2kxx 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Weeeeelll... Orton won the title while he was a heel. Sure, he got turned face like, the next night, but he WON it while being a heel and had one night of heel bragging. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Deadbolt Report post Posted February 8, 2005 Actually, to further his "Everyone is screwing me" (not in a Jasmine St Claire way) type angle, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't even get a match at Wrestlemania, but instead played a part in some sort of backstage angle, or match interference. Or maybe Teddy Long will give up on Batista, offer Edge a title shot on SD, and scoop him up by some sort of loop hole, or by the draft lottery. That would of course mean JBL losing the title to a face at mania, which I also see happening, as he's beaten all worthy contenders on SD already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 I actually think Edge will be a perfect candidate if Batista wins the title. If Edge does win it though I think you'll see his character start to chill out and drop the gimmick of never getting the title. In effect, a face turn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 I actually think Edge will be a perfect candidate if Batista wins the title. If Edge does win it though I think you'll see his character start to chill out and drop the gimmick of never getting the title. In effect, a face turn. Or be like "See! I told you I could do it! In your face!" I wonder what a chilled heel Edge would be like. In between E&C era and now maybe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
humongous2002 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 I wish it was true about Orton going back to midcard status but since he's suppose to be the next Rock according to WWE management then most likely he will still be pushed down our throats until we like him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2005 Uh, Edge got hit by Batista's spinebuster. I call that a overbooked finish to keep Edge strong. I agree. Edge looked great out there, and it sent the message Triple H couldn't beat him on his own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
