Big Show Rips Lesnar

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Is this the wrong time to point out that Brock was in the process of being buried around the time he left?

LOL, him getting "buried" is nothing compared to what Jericho and RVD have been going through all these years.

But we're not talking about them, we're talking about Brock.

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So, Big Show has been doing the F-5 on smackdown right

 

Big Show is a babyface that will most likely job to the Champion this Sunday. The wwe is in negotiations supposedly for Big Show to face a Sumo wrestler for Mania. Brock was said to be in Japan and wanting to do shoot fights.

 

Maybe I give the creative team too much credit, but.....next thing we know Big Show and Brock will have a shoot on ppv in May(rumoured return of Brock).

 

If not, I'm sure Brock cares that Big Show wrestled hurt, while he broke his ribs as WWE Champion and had his reign cut short when it was planned for him to go over Hulk Hogan at MSG for Survivor Series. Still, Big Show has been busting tail though and has a good reason to gripe, but read the first sentence again.

[cameron chaos 0]

Didn't he lease that jet? I highly doubt he still has possession of it now.

I was under the impression he got the jet, WWE picked up his fuel bills.

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certainly a nice toy to Tool around town......err the Country with.

[Toshiaki Koala 0]

Brock was all that and a bag of chips

 

Has Show been reading Fierro lately?

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Didn't he lease that jet?  I highly doubt he still has possession of it now.

I was under the impression he got the jet, WWE picked up his fuel bills.

Yeah, he was paying for the jet, while the WWE was picking up fuel & paying the pilot. However, Brock was leasing the jet, he didn't buy it outright. I would imagine he turned the jet back in after he left, since he wouldn't have any use for it.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

So, Big Show has been doing the F-5 on smackdown right

 

Big Show is a babyface that will most likely job to the Champion this Sunday. The wwe is in negotiations supposedly for Big Show to face a Sumo wrestler for Mania. Brock was said to be in Japan and wanting to do shoot fights.

 

Maybe I give the creative team too much credit, but.....next thing we know Big Show and Brock will have a shoot on ppv in May(rumoured return of Brock).

 

If not, I'm sure Brock cares that Big Show wrestled hurt, while he broke his ribs as WWE Champion and had his reign cut short when it was planned for him to go over Hulk Hogan at MSG for Survivor Series. Still, Big Show has been busting tail though and has a good reason to gripe, but read the first sentence again.

It's not the Big Show's fault Hulk vs Brock at SSeries never happened. Hogan IIRC refused to job to Brock because he already had earlier in the summer.

[cameron chaos 0]

Didn't he lease that jet?  I highly doubt he still has possession of it now.

I was under the impression he got the jet, WWE picked up his fuel bills.

Yeah, he was paying for the jet, while the WWE was picking up fuel & paying the pilot. However, Brock was leasing the jet, he didn't buy it outright. I would imagine he turned the jet back in after he left, since he wouldn't have any use for it.

Alright, must have got my wires crossed. Cheers for clearing that up.

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So, Big Show has been doing the F-5 on smackdown right

 

Big Show is a babyface that will most likely job to the Champion this Sunday. The wwe is in negotiations supposedly for Big Show to face a Sumo wrestler for Mania. Brock was said to be in Japan and wanting to do shoot fights.

 

Maybe I give the creative team too much credit, but.....next thing we know Big Show and Brock will have a shoot on ppv in May(rumoured return of Brock).

 

If not, I'm sure Brock cares   that Big Show wrestled hurt, while he broke his ribs as WWE Champion and had his reign cut short when it was planned for him to go over Hulk Hogan at MSG for Survivor Series. Still, Big Show has been busting tail though and has a good reason to gripe, but read the first sentence again.

It's not the Big Show's fault Hulk vs Brock at SSeries never happened. Hogan IIRC refused to job to Brock because he already had earlier in the summer.

I don't know if I necessarly blame Hogan all that much for not wanting to get into another losing program with Brock. the angle was pretty much ended and Brock all but totally squash Hogan and urinated on whatever embers were left of Hulkamania.

 

Too get into a comeback angle only too receive the same outcome might be counter productive, besides doing it once was truly enough it snapped people into attention that the Legend pretty much was crushed and Brock was now the present and what we thought, the future

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

So, Big Show has been doing the F-5 on smackdown right

 

Big Show is a babyface that will most likely job to the Champion this Sunday. The wwe is in negotiations supposedly for Big Show to face a Sumo wrestler for Mania. Brock was said to be in Japan and wanting to do shoot fights.

 

Maybe I give the creative team too much credit, but.....next thing we know Big Show and Brock will have a shoot on ppv in May(rumoured return of Brock).

 

If not, I'm sure Brock cares   that Big Show wrestled hurt, while he broke his ribs as WWE Champion and had his reign cut short when it was planned for him to go over Hulk Hogan at MSG for Survivor Series. Still, Big Show has been busting tail though and has a good reason to gripe, but read the first sentence again.

It's not the Big Show's fault Hulk vs Brock at SSeries never happened. Hogan IIRC refused to job to Brock because he already had earlier in the summer.

I don't know if I necessarly blame Hogan all that much for not wanting to get into another losing program with Brock. the angle was pretty much ended and Brock all but totally squash Hogan and urinated on whatever embers were left of Hulkamania.

 

Too get into a comeback angle only too receive the same outcome might be counter productive, besides doing it once was truly enough it snapped people into attention that the Legend pretty much was crushed and Brock was now the present and what we thought, the future

I think the squash was WWE's way of telling him to fuck off after he refused to job to Brock at SSeries.

[Guest Trivia247]

So, Big Show has been doing the F-5 on smackdown right

 

Big Show is a babyface that will most likely job to the Champion this Sunday. The wwe is in negotiations supposedly for Big Show to face a Sumo wrestler for Mania. Brock was said to be in Japan and wanting to do shoot fights.

 

Maybe I give the creative team too much credit, but.....next thing we know Big Show and Brock will have a shoot on ppv in May(rumoured return of Brock).

 

If not, I'm sure Brock cares   that Big Show wrestled hurt, while he broke his ribs as WWE Champion and had his reign cut short when it was planned for him to go over Hulk Hogan at MSG for Survivor Series. Still, Big Show has been busting tail though and has a good reason to gripe, but read the first sentence again.

It's not the Big Show's fault Hulk vs Brock at SSeries never happened. Hogan IIRC refused to job to Brock because he already had earlier in the summer.

I don't know if I necessarly blame Hogan all that much for not wanting to get into another losing program with Brock. the angle was pretty much ended and Brock all but totally squash Hogan and urinated on whatever embers were left of Hulkamania.

 

Too get into a comeback angle only too receive the same outcome might be counter productive, besides doing it once was truly enough it snapped people into attention that the Legend pretty much was crushed and Brock was now the present and what we thought, the future

I think the squash was WWE's way of telling him to fuck off after he refused to job to Brock at SSeries.

I don't doubt it. Think the error probably in judgement on Hogan is the Jobbing squash came on Free TV instead of PPV where the buyrate would be there.

[notJames 0]

People actually don't want Brock back?

 

Do these people also hate good wrestling?

I agree wholeheartedly. Anyone complaining about wrestlers "biting the hand that fed them" need look no further than Shawn Michaels, the poster child of selfishness. The manlove he gets all over the place seems a bit misplaced considering how often he used to put himself above the other wrestlers, and quite unprofessionally at that.

 

I, for one, would welcome Lesnar back in a heartbeat. I guess I just miss great wrestling.

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What I meant about my post was that Lesnar could be looking at Big Show's comments in that way. He was planned to go over Hulk Hogan, but ended up jobbing to Big Show. In a twisted way, Big Show was put over by Brock Lesnar and not the other way around in that instance. Hogan was right by the way!

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What I meant about my post was that Lesnar could be looking at Big Show's comments in that way. He was planned to go over Hulk Hogan, but ended up jobbing to Big Show. In a twisted way, Big Show was put over by Brock Lesnar and not the other way around in that instance. Hogan was right by the way!

Err... Big Show put over Brock a lot more often than Brock did Big Show. Though I see your point.

[humongous2002 0]

I wish Lesnar would just go play football in Europe

 

It will never happen, not enough money or status and he doesn't actually want to play football that much. Apparently the Vikings tried to refer him to coaches of other teams in Europe but Brock never bothered to try contact them. He'd have to move, accept a money offer under 100k, work hard to even attain the level of the European league, probably have to sell his jet and estates in the USA... so, never it is.

But playing football is his "dream", that's why he left a million dollar WWE contract.

[cameron chaos 0]

People actually don't want Brock back?

 

Do these people also hate good wrestling?

I agree wholeheartedly. Anyone complaining about wrestlers "biting the hand that fed them" need look no further than Shawn Michaels, the poster child of selfishness. The manlove he gets all over the place seems a bit misplaced considering how often he used to put himself above the other wrestlers, and quite unprofessionally at that.

 

I, for one, would welcome Lesnar back in a heartbeat. I guess I just miss great wrestling.

Shawn Michaels didn't get a private jet with his fuel bills paid for him. Plus, Shawn has produced more memorable matches than Brock and has stayed with the company, whereas Brock produced few and left when he got bored.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

People actually don't want Brock back?

 

Do these people also hate good wrestling?

I agree wholeheartedly. Anyone complaining about wrestlers "biting the hand that fed them" need look no further than Shawn Michaels, the poster child of selfishness. The manlove he gets all over the place seems a bit misplaced considering how often he used to put himself above the other wrestlers, and quite unprofessionally at that.

 

I, for one, would welcome Lesnar back in a heartbeat. I guess I just miss great wrestling.

Shawn Michaels didn't get a private jet with his fuel bills paid for him. Plus, Shawn has produced more memorable matches than Brock and has stayed with the company, whereas Brock produced few and left when he got bored.

Shawn screwed up a planned major WM match. Brock didn't.

[cameron chaos 0]

I wish Lesnar would just go play football in Europe

 

It will never happen, not enough money or status and he doesn't actually want to play football that much. Apparently the Vikings tried to refer him to coaches of other teams in Europe but Brock never bothered to try contact them. He'd have to move, accept a money offer under 100k, work hard to even attain the level of the European league, probably have to sell his jet and estates in the USA... so, never it is.

But playing football is his "dream", that's why he left a million dollar WWE contract.

I think you are confusing "dream" with "excuse to stop touring endlessly because he missed his daughter".

[humongous2002 0]

I wish Lesnar would just go play football in Europe

 

It will never happen, not enough money or status and he doesn't actually want to play football that much. Apparently the Vikings tried to refer him to coaches of other teams in Europe but Brock never bothered to try contact them. He'd have to move, accept a money offer under 100k, work hard to even attain the level of the European league, probably have to sell his jet and estates in the USA... so, never it is.

But playing football is his "dream", that's why he left a million dollar WWE contract.

I think you are confusing "dream" with "excuse to stop touring endlessly because he missed his daughter".

So that's Brock's new excuse this week for quitting WWE? I can't wait to see next week's excuse.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

I wish Lesnar would just go play football in Europe

 

It will never happen, not enough money or status and he doesn't actually want to play football that much. Apparently the Vikings tried to refer him to coaches of other teams in Europe but Brock never bothered to try contact them. He'd have to move, accept a money offer under 100k, work hard to even attain the level of the European league, probably have to sell his jet and estates in the USA... so, never it is.

But playing football is his "dream", that's why he left a million dollar WWE contract.

I think you are confusing "dream" with "excuse to stop touring endlessly because he missed his daughter".

Despite how it played out, Brock really did have a dream to play in the NFL.

[cameron chaos 0]

People actually don't want Brock back?

 

Do these people also hate good wrestling?

I agree wholeheartedly. Anyone complaining about wrestlers "biting the hand that fed them" need look no further than Shawn Michaels, the poster child of selfishness. The manlove he gets all over the place seems a bit misplaced considering how often he used to put himself above the other wrestlers, and quite unprofessionally at that.

 

I, for one, would welcome Lesnar back in a heartbeat. I guess I just miss great wrestling.

Shawn Michaels didn't get a private jet with his fuel bills paid for him. Plus, Shawn has produced more memorable matches than Brock and has stayed with the company, whereas Brock produced few and left when he got bored.

Shawn screwed up a planned major WM match. Brock didn't.

Brock/Goldberg. Brock was originally meant to go over before he asked to get out. Not the main event, but a high profile match. And a WM is one thing, hundreds of thousands of dollars spent to appease one person is another.

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What I meant about my post was that Lesnar could be looking at Big Show's comments in that way. He was planned to go over Hulk Hogan, but ended up jobbing to Big Show. In a twisted way, Big Show was put over by Brock Lesnar and not the other way around in that instance. Hogan was right by the way!

Err... Big Show put over Brock a lot more often than Brock did Big Show. Though I see your point.

Well, Brock was being pushed as "The Next Big Thing". I don't think seeing the Next Big Thing jobbing to The Big Job(which he was losing to Jeff Hardy) would be a smart business move Hell, he just went over UT "in his match" for crying out loud before jobbing to Big Show.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

People actually don't want Brock back?

 

Do these people also hate good wrestling?

I agree wholeheartedly. Anyone complaining about wrestlers "biting the hand that fed them" need look no further than Shawn Michaels, the poster child of selfishness. The manlove he gets all over the place seems a bit misplaced considering how often he used to put himself above the other wrestlers, and quite unprofessionally at that.

 

I, for one, would welcome Lesnar back in a heartbeat. I guess I just miss great wrestling.

Shawn Michaels didn't get a private jet with his fuel bills paid for him. Plus, Shawn has produced more memorable matches than Brock and has stayed with the company, whereas Brock produced few and left when he got bored.

Shawn screwed up a planned major WM match. Brock didn't.

Brock/Goldberg. Brock was originally meant to go over before he asked to get out. Not the main event, but a high profile match. And a WM is one thing, hundreds of thousands of dollars spent to appease one person is another.

At least Brock v Goldberg took place.

[cameron chaos 0]

I wish Lesnar would just go play football in Europe

 

It will never happen, not enough money or status and he doesn't actually want to play football that much. Apparently the Vikings tried to refer him to coaches of other teams in Europe but Brock never bothered to try contact them. He'd have to move, accept a money offer under 100k, work hard to even attain the level of the European league, probably have to sell his jet and estates in the USA... so, never it is.

But playing football is his "dream", that's why he left a million dollar WWE contract.

I think you are confusing "dream" with "excuse to stop touring endlessly because he missed his daughter".

Despite how it played out, Brock really did have a dream to play in the NFL.

Then why did he cut off contact with the Vikings coach and not take referals to the NFl Europe league, where they encouraged him to go to polish his abilities?

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Well, at least we got to see how whiney HBK can be on camera when he gave up the belt

 

All we got are rumours about Brock being a crybaby backstage

[cameron chaos 0]

People actually don't want Brock back?

 

Do these people also hate good wrestling?

I agree wholeheartedly. Anyone complaining about wrestlers "biting the hand that fed them" need look no further than Shawn Michaels, the poster child of selfishness. The manlove he gets all over the place seems a bit misplaced considering how often he used to put himself above the other wrestlers, and quite unprofessionally at that.

 

I, for one, would welcome Lesnar back in a heartbeat. I guess I just miss great wrestling.

Shawn Michaels didn't get a private jet with his fuel bills paid for him. Plus, Shawn has produced more memorable matches than Brock and has stayed with the company, whereas Brock produced few and left when he got bored.

Shawn screwed up a planned major WM match. Brock didn't.

Brock/Goldberg. Brock was originally meant to go over before he asked to get out. Not the main event, but a high profile match. And a WM is one thing, hundreds of thousands of dollars spent to appease one person is another.

At least Brock v Goldberg took place.

Shawn screwed up the main event because he hated Bret, Brock left because he didn't want to be demoted or repeat a feud.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

People actually don't want Brock back?

 

Do these people also hate good wrestling?

I agree wholeheartedly. Anyone complaining about wrestlers "biting the hand that fed them" need look no further than Shawn Michaels, the poster child of selfishness. The manlove he gets all over the place seems a bit misplaced considering how often he used to put himself above the other wrestlers, and quite unprofessionally at that.

 

I, for one, would welcome Lesnar back in a heartbeat. I guess I just miss great wrestling.

Shawn Michaels didn't get a private jet with his fuel bills paid for him. Plus, Shawn has produced more memorable matches than Brock and has stayed with the company, whereas Brock produced few and left when he got bored.

Shawn screwed up a planned major WM match. Brock didn't.

Brock/Goldberg. Brock was originally meant to go over before he asked to get out. Not the main event, but a high profile match. And a WM is one thing, hundreds of thousands of dollars spent to appease one person is another.

At least Brock v Goldberg took place.

Shawn screwed up the main event because he hated Bret, Brock left because he didn't want to be demoted or repeat a feud.

If Shawn was going to beat Bret at WM XIII, he'd have 'gotten past his hate'.

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What I meant about my post was that Lesnar could be looking at Big Show's comments in that way. He was planned to go over Hulk Hogan, but ended up jobbing to Big Show. In a twisted way, Big Show was put over by Brock Lesnar and not the other way around in that instance. Hogan was right by the way!

Err... Big Show put over Brock a lot more often than Brock did Big Show. Though I see your point.

Well, Brock was being pushed as "The Next Big Thing". I don't think seeing the Next Big Thing jobbing to The Big Job(which he was losing to Jeff Hardy) would be a smart business move Hell, he just went over UT "in his match" for crying out loud before jobbing to Big Show.

It's basic booking though. Even if the plan wasn't for Big Show to win the title at SSeries, the heel should win the first match of a PPV series, and then Brock won virtually every match they had since then. So even though "The Next Big Thing" shouldn't be putting over "The Big Job" as you call him, the fact he did is the reason Show was able to credibly put over Brock all of 2003.

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Actually, I had liked Big Show(still do somewhat) when he just came to Smackdown. Heyman did a great job with him and the storyline. The real people who put Brock over were Hulk Hogan, The Rock, and UT in that order. Brock was above Big Show at the time if you look at it this way. Brock then jobbing to Big Show made it possible for Big Show to give him back the rub.

[cameron chaos 0]

People actually don't want Brock back?

 

Do these people also hate good wrestling?

I agree wholeheartedly. Anyone complaining about wrestlers "biting the hand that fed them" need look no further than Shawn Michaels, the poster child of selfishness. The manlove he gets all over the place seems a bit misplaced considering how often he used to put himself above the other wrestlers, and quite unprofessionally at that.

 

I, for one, would welcome Lesnar back in a heartbeat. I guess I just miss great wrestling.

Shawn Michaels didn't get a private jet with his fuel bills paid for him. Plus, Shawn has produced more memorable matches than Brock and has stayed with the company, whereas Brock produced few and left when he got bored.

Shawn screwed up a planned major WM match. Brock didn't.

Brock/Goldberg. Brock was originally meant to go over before he asked to get out. Not the main event, but a high profile match. And a WM is one thing, hundreds of thousands of dollars spent to appease one person is another.

At least Brock v Goldberg took place.

Shawn screwed up the main event because he hated Bret, Brock left because he didn't want to be demoted or repeat a feud.

If Shawn was going to beat Bret at WM XIII, he'd have 'gotten past his hate'.

Would you co-operate with and make yourself look worse than someone you genuinely hated?