Guest netslob Report post Posted March 10, 2005 Is it just me or does Kash look a bit like Vince Neil in that picture? now that you mention it...although Kash looks more masculine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2005 To answer the original question: Kash's shirt is just a tribute to his buddy RVD. The two men were good friends back in ECW and still talk to this day. (Remember a couple years back when Kash drew a buncha heat by saying that Van Dam was the only guy in the WWF who "knew how to work"?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo Effect 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2005 If I was dorky enough to wear wrestling shirts, I'd totally rock this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2005 It's not about JUST a Yin-Yang on his shirt. He has the Yin-Yang, the black dragons and black/yellow font for his name. It's pretty easily mistaken for a RVD shirt if you didn't follow this kind of stuff too closely if it didn't have his name on the front. You act as if RVD was the first person to have a dragon on his shirt. I'm rather sure Ricky Steamboat would have something to say about that...or any Japanese wrestler that made an impact in America that got a shirt. But I will agree that the layout of the shirt is similar to an RVD shirt. Then, like I said, he does the Five Star and did the VanTerminator several times before. It's not about his character. I'm just curious as to why he can't be original. And before RVD made the Five-Star Frog Splash his main finisher, other men in ECW were using it, including Mike Awesome, occasionally Sabu, and various luchadores they brought in. Let's not forget that D'Lo Brown was using it in the WWF before RVD, and Eddie Guerrero and Art Barr were the ones who pretty much invented it. By this argument, RVD is an Eddie Guerrero ripoff, which just isn't the case. As for Kash's Van Terminator, I'll give you that one a little bit, but his is different. He somersaults forward, does not usually use a weapon, and his opponent is almost NEVER placed in the corner (or at least wasn't when TNA still had the normal ring). I never got the Jerry Lynn pants thing either. At least when Chris Candido wore Terry Funk's pants in ECW, he fought Terry Funk while wearing them. And Steve Austin stole Killer Kowalski's tights. THAT MOTHERFUCKER! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest M. Harry Smilac Report post Posted March 11, 2005 No, there is denying, that's complete bullshit! Again, do you watch TNA? If you don't you don't know what you're talking about, if you do, I don't know in which universe. Kash's gimmick is that of a small, hotheaded, white trash misogynist who cuts angry sometimes worked shoot promos about how he hates everyone getting a push ahead of him, gets pissed off about it, even at fans who cheer him. RVD's gimmick is that of an atheletic, new age, laid back gymnyst who likes to talk about pot and say "dude", he doesn't get angry because he's too cool for that and likes hearing the fans chant for him. In the same light did you ever watch ECW? RVD didn't cut "hey dude,chill out" promos then and at the time they were some of the best. I understand the point your trying to make but it gives me a chuckle that you in turn make yourself guilty of the same thing your complaining about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2005 Yes I did watch ECW. RVD's interviews weren't much different except he called himself "The Whole Fucking Show" and made more explicit pot references.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2005 And even when he was the young, cocky bastard out for respect, he was STILL a comedian about it all. Kash has never been about making wisecracks, and always been about being a prick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Some Guy 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2005 Its no different then Abyss being a Kane clone or Monty Brown as Goldberg. TNA = WWE-lite Uh, Abyss > Kane, and Brown >>>>>> Goldberg. Brown has tons more charisma than Goldberg. Only similarities is that Brown pummels opponents in quick fashion, something than many big men did en route to making them seem indestructible. Hate to disagree with you Zack but no way is Monty Brown more charismatic than Goldberg. Goldberg's charisma was such that he drew people to pay money to see him and sold a ton of shirts and such. Monty Brown has done none of the above. If Monty was on a show that more than 200,000 people watched and had more exposure he possibly could be the next Goldberg. Abyss is pretty much a ripoff of Leatherface (at least in his look) as near as I can tell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest PlatinumBoy Report post Posted March 14, 2005 It's not about JUST a Yin-Yang on his shirt. He has the Yin-Yang, the black dragons and black/yellow font for his name. It's pretty easily mistaken for a RVD shirt if you didn't follow this kind of stuff too closely if it didn't have his name on the front. You act as if RVD was the first person to have a dragon on his shirt. I'm rather sure Ricky Steamboat would have something to say about that...or any Japanese wrestler that made an impact in America that got a shirt. But I will agree that the layout of the shirt is similar to an RVD shirt. Then, like I said, he does the Five Star and did the VanTerminator several times before. It's not about his character. I'm just curious as to why he can't be original. And before RVD made the Five-Star Frog Splash his main finisher, other men in ECW were using it, including Mike Awesome, occasionally Sabu, and various luchadores they brought in. Let's not forget that D'Lo Brown was using it in the WWF before RVD, and Eddie Guerrero and Art Barr were the ones who pretty much invented it. By this argument, RVD is an Eddie Guerrero ripoff, which just isn't the case. As for Kash's Van Terminator, I'll give you that one a little bit, but his is different. He somersaults forward, does not usually use a weapon, and his opponent is almost NEVER placed in the corner (or at least wasn't when TNA still had the normal ring). I never got the Jerry Lynn pants thing either. At least when Chris Candido wore Terry Funk's pants in ECW, he fought Terry Funk while wearing them. And Steve Austin stole Killer Kowalski's tights. THAT MOTHERFUCKER! Didn't Misawa do the frog splash before any of these folks? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Open the Muggy Gate 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2005 If I was dorky enough to wear wrestling shirts, I'd totally rock this. Now that's a badass shirt. I need to get that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous K89 0 Report post Posted March 17, 2005 A lot of you guys are taking parts of my argument to disect when you should be disecting the entire package. My argument is against the package of similarities that Kid Kash has of RVD. Not SPECIFICALLY that he uses the frog splash as many such as Eddie Guerrero, Mitsuharu Misawa, Art Barr, Mike Awesome and even fucking Balls Mahoney used the frog splash. I'm talking about the whole package of similarities. So, stop breaking it down piece by piece as that is not what my post is about and doing such is misinterpreting my text. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted March 18, 2005 But that's like saying Megadeth is a ripoff of Metallica, or Iron Maiden a ripoff of Judas Priest. Yes, they have a lot in common, but both RVD and Kid Kash have vastly different styles in the ring, and their characters are pretty much polar opposites. So they both use yin-yang's, and the TNA shirtmakers decided to give him an RVD-ish dragon and font. RVD isn't the first person to use the yin-yang or the dragon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 Monty Brown is not charismatic. He IS however, a very good public speaker. When he came out for some guest announcing spots on Impact!, when Trytan was doing his disappearing act crap, Brown came off as a serious & well-educated athlete. Guys like Monty Brown, while not as good as wrestlers as we could hope, are good for the sport. Abyss, on the other hand, what's the point? He's billed as an unstoppable raging monster, yet has lost month after month on PPV. He's a pretty good worker that meshes really well with talented high-fliers (no, not Hardy...as he's not talented), but he just comes off as really bush league, I dunno. Kash has never had the look, although he's a pretty good worker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest korndogg123 Report post Posted March 24, 2005 I don't have too much of an opinion on the matter, but I just found some more evidence linking the two. I was on TNA's website checkin out the entrance themes and about 15 seconds into Kid Kash's theme it turns into a knockoff of Pantera's "Walk". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2005 Abyss, on the other hand, what's the point? He's billed as an unstoppable raging monster, yet has lost month after month on PPV Kane does the same thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites