The Shield Season 4 Offical Thread

[Youth N Asia 0]

Ducth is definatly going to have to go one up on Vic sooner or later, this would be perfect

[The Ill One 0]

I figured Shane might be taken out this season as the closer because the clash for the streets becomes too heated. But if Shane brings up Terry, Vic could bring up Tevon? But I doubt they'll be blackmailing each other or maybe towards the end of the season Shane will come back to Vic after he screws up badly. Hopefully not.

[Mole 0]

I taped last week's episode, but my tape ran out when the episode was only half done. So I downloaded it last night and just watched the other half.

 

Very good episode, even though I am a bit confused since I missed season 3. Can someone answer a few of my questions?

 

1. Why did the Strike Team break up?

2. Why did Shane leave?

3. Why does the DA not like Claudette? What did she do?

4. When did Aceveda get raped? And is that why he was rubbing one out while watching that rape video?

5. What ever happened to all of that money they stole?

6. How come Claudette didn't get the Captain job?

 

Those are all I have for now, thanks in advance.

[Youth N Asia 0]

1. Why did the Strike Team break up?

-Lem was scared they were going to get busted with the money they ripped off of the Arminean mob, so he burned it. Lem was talking about leaving, and Vic talked him into staying on...UNTILL Shane ran his mouth saying they were stuck with him, only because Acevada said he'd break up the team if any of them split...Lem split

 

2. Why did Shane leave?

-Team was broken up after Lemonhead left.

 

3. Why does the DA not like Claudette? What did she do?

-Claudette and Dutch were investigating a case about a DA who was killed outside of a courthouse. When the body was examined it was determined she was high on meth (I believe). Ducth and Acevada just wanted to find the shooter. But Claudette went deeped to find her drug dealer. Because people might have gotten poor representation if the DA was trying cases while high, and innocents might have been locked up. Everyone else at the Barn was pissed over this cause convictions they worked hard to get could be overturned by this. So she's basicaly pissed off everyone by now. And Ducth is only sticking by due to loyalty, but that could change.

 

4. When did Aceveda get raped? And is that why he was rubbing one out while watching that rape video?

-He got raped about mid way or two-thirds of the way through season.

He was tied up by a couple of thugs and forced to perform a blowjob on one while the other took a pic on a phone. He followed the two later in the season to a storm robbery, and shot one dead and took the phone off the body to erase the pic. He had the other cornered in a house with a gun trained on him, but the Strike Team was just behind him looking for the same guy, so he didn't kill him. He told him later that he was going to prison and if he ever told stories about what happened he would have him killed.

 

5. What ever happened to all of that money they stole?

-Lem burned it in a furnace...it was a few million, Lem burned all but a couple hundred thousand I believe.

 

6. How come Claudette didn't get the Captain job?

-All because of the DA thing. She was hated in the barn after that.

[Mole 0]

But Claudette was doing the right thing, unless it was a lot worse than it sounds.

 

Are you saying that Lem just left the Strike Team, not the Barn? Because I saw him in this past weeks episode.

[The Ill One 0]

Right but the sheer politics and scandal of it meant that the DA could have a chaotic situation. Claudette was doing the right thing in the ideal world but this is far from the ideal world.

 

He works with Juvenile Offenders now and stopped by. (I could be wrong).

[Youth N Asia 0]

He left the team, and I imagine it was just easier for everyone to leave the barn entirely, he was in bad with the other guys in the Strike Team.

 

I had no idea that Shane and Lem would start off elsewhere. I thought they'd still be in the barn paired up with someone else.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

I don't know what it is, but I'm just not feeling it in these first two episodes. I like the show and all, but I just feel like something's missing, although I like Close's character...

[Mole 0]

Right but the sheer politics and scandal of it meant that the DA could have a chaotic situation. Claudette was doing the right thing in the ideal world but this is far from the ideal world.

Very true, this is no where near and ideal world.

 

He works with Juvenile Offenders now and stopped by. (I could be wrong).

But he was driving around with Vic and (I think that is his name) Ronnie. They pulled up to the house that was getting burned down to search it since they had a warrant.

 

Meh, I need to get season 3 on DVD.

[Youth N Asia 0]

They were going after a juvenile offender

[Mole 0]

Ohh okay that's right.

 

Youth, do you like this show better than Buffy?

[JasonX 0]

1. Why did the Strike Team break up?

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Various factors but essentially TPTB told Vic that they wouldn't foot the bill to bring in replacements for Tavon (who was forced off the team do to injuries) and Lem (who had a breakdown both mentally and physically that made him decide to quit) and that if he couldn't keep Lem on the team so as to maintain a four man roster, they would pull the plug on the Strike Team. So despite Vic's best efforts to bury the hatchet, Shane drove Lem away by lying to Lem about Vic hating him and how he was only reconciling with him to keep the team together.

 

2. Why did Shane leave?

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Again various factors, mainly dealing with Shane being pissed at Vic willingness to take Lem back into the fold with open arms, the fact that Vic didn't approve of his new wife, and that Shane felt that Vic was taking him for granted/not trusting him as used to.

 

3. Why does the DA not like Claudette? What did she do?

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She exposed a public defender who had a legendary losing record in the court room as a drug addict who always cae to court high on drugs. The fall-out from this was over three dozen convictions for major felons got overturned and resulted in Claudette (and Dutch, via guilt by association) being put in the political doghouse.

 

 

4. When did Aceveda get raped? And is that why he was rubbing one out while watching that rape video?

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Season three, episode five. Acaveda goes after some of the money train loot that has fallen into the hands of several latino gang members so he can use the money to finally get Vic and the ST for murder/corruption charges. Vic sends two gang members to retrieve the money and they arrive just as Acaveda sends several officers who came with him away so he could look for futher proof of Vic's guilt/ties to the local gangs. They find Acaveda, beat him up, and then force him to perform oral sex on one of the gang members while the other takes a picture of it via a camera phone (the picture BTW is later destroyed by Acaveda and that the gang member never made a copy of it and that Vic is unaware of Acaveda's rape as is Acaveada unaware that Vic unknowingly set the rape into motion).

 

It ties into the shock event of last week's episode since it's been hinted at that Acaveda has been looking for some sort of means to regain his confidence in himself after the attack, as his marriage has gone to hell as a result of the rape.

 

5. What ever happened to all of that money they stole?

 

Lem burned the money after essentially having a nervous breakdown brought about by him feeling that so long as the money existed, that the ST would never be safe from gang reprisals/investigation by their fellow cops. Only several thousand dollars didn't get burned and it was split amongs Vic, Shane, and Ronnie.

 

6. How come Claudette didn't get the Captain job?

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Mainly because she exposed the public defender's drug problem which resulted in numerous convictions being overturned, but the writing was on the wall that she wasn't getting the job when she blatantly ignored some critical intel that resulted in a member of the Decoy Squad (a group of undercover detectives who Claudette brought in to replace the Strike Team) being compromised in an undercover assignment.

 

As for Lem and Shane leaving, it was stated at the end of season three that Lem was transferring out of the Barn before Vic's failed attempt at a reconciliation though from what we've seen at the start of the season he's still working in the district with Juvenile Offenders.

 

As for Shane, his moving out of the Farmington District was partially because of his falling out with Vic and because of his wife Mara, who made it pretty clear to him as season three ended that she wanted Shane to get as far away from Vic as possible do to Vic's hate for her and her marriage to Shane.

 

Which brings me to ask, have they stated out of which district that Shane is working out of as a Vice detective? In the season three finale, Shane had a throw-away line about going to work out of Van Nuys if the Strike Team disbanded. Did they follow up on that one-liner?

[The Ill One 0]

Hey JasonX, any particular reason you have such a hard-on for Roonie? Not in an offensive way but I might be missing something here. Oh and I was thinking about it- unless Shane really fucks over Vic chances are he won't catch a bullet from Mackey. Vic was after that group, true, at the of the episode- but he was ready to have Shane's back... which in that situation could've been ugly really quickly.

 

Edit: Nevermind.

[Zetterberg is God 0]

Which brings me to ask, have they stated out of which district that Shane is working out of as a Vice detective? In the season three finale, Shane had a throw-away line about going to work out of Van Nuys if the Strike Team disbanded. Did they follow up on that one-liner?

In the beginning of episode two Vic says he's with the Central Bureau.

[Youth N Asia 0]

Youth, do you like this show better than Buffy?

I dunno. While I still consider Buffy my favorite show, I watched way too much of it. Seasons 2 through 5 especially. So The Shield has way more replay value for me right now.

[The Ill One 0]

Did everybody miss the new episode?

[packwingfn 0]

Enjoyed the episode this week.

[JasonX 0]

Enjoyed the episode this week.

So-So episode but one that is disappointing me with regards to the fact that we are three episodes into the season and still no concrete storyline going. If we had a 15 episode season I can see them taking their time but since they are back to the 13 episode season format, it makes no sense to drag their feet like this.

 

That being said, anyone want to bet that the scene where Dutch agrees to narc on the Barn for the DA is going to wreck any chances of reconcilliation between Vic and Shane? I can totally see the writers having Vic find out that there is a narc inside the Barn (but not knowing it's Dutch) and using that as the justification to kill Shane. Would make for some major ass traumatic irony for Vic to murder Shane over a massive case of mistaken identity, let alone how ramification of how such a chain of events would make the rivalry between Vic and Dutch become even WORSE.......

[Youth N Asia 0]

Anyone think Shane had Gilroy offed to tie up loose ends? He had the hitman's number. Maybe got the heads up that he was in town before Vic and had it done.

 

Good ep this week, but still nothing great so far. Next week it looks like Dutch might get back into big cases, which is always good.

 

I know she was brought on to be one of the stars of the show, but there's just way too much Glenn Close in the first few episodes.

[Vyce 0]

Enjoyed the episode this week.

So-So episode but one that is disappointing me with regards to the fact that we are three episodes into the season and still no concrete storyline going. If we had a 15 episode season I can see them taking their time but since they are back to the 13 episode season format, it makes no sense to drag their feet like this.

I personally think that the Vic / Shane rivalry is going to wind up being the main storyline.

 

I could be wrong, as I haven't heard a thing about what's to be expected in this season, but I think they could be building up to a showdown between the two of them by season's end. And one won't be surviving to next season.

[Youth N Asia 0]

I think Vic and Shane are going to play nice for a while, even get along, untill Shane just screws him over royal and there's no coming back from it

[Guest Retro Rob]

We all know Shane has been taking money and drugs from the crime scenes. Coincidentally, while on the new job, he also bought a new house filled with lots of expensive stuff. Anyone think this could lead to him becoming another victim of Rawling's plan if someone leaks some information on him?

[JasonX 0]

Anyone think Shane had Gilroy offed to tie up loose ends? He had the hitman's number. Maybe got the heads up that he was in town before Vic and had it done.

 

Good ep this week, but still nothing great so far. Next week it looks like Dutch might get back into big cases, which is always good.

 

I know she was brought on to be one of the stars of the show, but there's just way too much Glenn Close in the first few episodes.

I had totaly forget about that (IE Shane, the hitman, and Gilroy). Interesting idea and would make for one hell of a reveal when Shane and Vic finally go head to head towards showing how far Shane has fallen, especially if Shane reveals that his motive for killing Gilroy personally wasn't to save him and Vic from Gilroy but part of a nhillistic "If I can kill another human being for no reason whatsoever except because I can, then I can do absolutely anything" form of self-improvement.

 

As for the new house and stuff, given that Mara is a real estate agent they could run that angle to explain it away, especially if connected to Shane selling his own house.

 

As for Dutch, the fact that he's a narc now is more interesting than him being out of the doghouse. That said, I can just see Claudette going apeshit on Dutch for going behind her back and promising to essentially keep her in line.

 

As for Glenn Close, I'm waiting until the midway point of this season before deciding if she's hogging the spotlight/focus.

 

I think Vic and Shane are going to play nice for a while, even get along, untill Shane just screws him over royal and there's no coming back from it

 

My take: Vic and Shane work together and reconcile until news leaks out that someone in the Barn is a narc. Vic gets scared shitless and Lem/Ronnie start fingering Shane as the narc. So Vic kills/puts Shane in a coma (right after Shane apologises for being an asshole and reaffirms his wanting to make things right between him and Vic to make things even more tragic) and then finds out that Dutch is the narc from Acaveda, who stops by to tell Vic about it so as to get Vic onboard a plot to oust Glenn Close's character as Captain. Vic has a heart attack-esque nervous breakdown when he realizes what he's done and we get next season featuring Vic versus everyone as Vic goes into a full-blown "DIE! DIE! EVERYONE DIES" mode with Vic using all of his evil intelligence and ability to destroy everyone, culminating in Vic finally getting brought down.

[Zetterberg is God 0]

Another pretty good episode this week. I'm glad to see the Strike Team members working together for a bit and Army should be a solid addition to that line-up. I'm also hoping to see them start the Aceveda-City Council storyline next episode.

[Youth N Asia 0]

Tonight looks like the first real action show of the season, can't wait till 10pm.

[packwingfn 0]

Shanes a dead man next week!

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

I think it's safe to say that Shane won't survive this season. If Vic doesn't kill him then Antoine will. Also I bet Aceveda does something really stupid before this season is over like raping someone. Then he'll probably turn to Vic to help him or something.

[Youth N Asia 0]

I dunno about Shane, but his partner could be dead, and I get the idea Ronnie may be a casualty in this whole thing.

[packwingfn 0]

So what im getting at, is that Vic and Ronnie set up Shane, and now their letting him inside the Barn again, so they can get to Antoine?

[Youth N Asia 0]

I think David's going to end up killing that poor hooker, accidental or not