Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 15, 2005 Looking Out for No. 2 A modest proposal for single-use toilets. By Ian Ayres Updated Monday, March 7, 2005, at 2:01 PM PT A few feet from my office, Yale Law School every day violates our nation's civil rights law by needlessly discriminating on the basis of sex. And people walk by this violation day after day and never say a word. There are two single-use restrooms side by side. One is designated for use solely by men; the other solely by women. This might seem innocuous. But it's a clear violation of Title VII, our core federal civil rights law that prohibits private employers from discriminating on the basis of sex. Yale is discriminating on the basis of sex in the conditions of my employment. I can't use this women's bathroom because I'm a man. The law in this area is really quite simple: Sex discrimination in conditions of employment is only ever legal if such distinctions based on sex are a "bona fide occupational qualification." The BFOQ defense is extremely narrow. There might be a valid argument for preserving sex-segregation for multiple-use restrooms, Ally McBeal notwithstanding. Women might be safer in multi-use toilets. But there is no legitimate basis for preserving gender-specific single-use toilets, and that makes them a wonderful lens through which to examine our broader commitment to gender equality. These Yale toilets are not a vestige of the past, by the way. They were built from scratch as part of the law school's 2000 renovation. And why did we decide, in 2000, to have one toilet just for men and another just for women? A member of the school's building committee told me candidly that it's because men are sloppier. That's right: The fact that men stand to urinate and at times might not aim accurately is the entire rationale for separate toilets. This story is not even close to what courts traditionally accept as a legal BFOQ justification. Even if some men "are pigs," why does this justify forcing non-messy men to use the same toilet? "I'm sorry Felix, because you're a man you have to use the dirty bathroom …" The deeper justification must be not only that some men are messy but that men as a class aren't as sensitive as women are to the messiness. But this is just the type of unsupported sexual stereotyping that our discrimination law was meant to stop. We should be particularly reluctant to justify discrimination on this type of cleanliness grounds. (It's a little bit scary to think about, but a similar argument was used when I was a kid to justify keeping African-Americans from using white toilets.) This sounds too trivial to matter, right? This is the kind of sex discrimination that troubles only law professors and no one else; the kind that has no relevance or application outside ivy walls? Well, it matters to Riki Dennis, too. An article in last week's New York Times described how Ms. Dennis, a transgendered woman, was beaten for going into the wrong bathroom. Bathroom discrimination literally does hurt people. If the toilet Dennis entered had been gender neutral, there may not have been an attack. Single-sex toilets give bigots another excuse to hit people. We shouldn't go out of our way to draw lines in sands daring people to cross over them. We don't have single-sex toilets at home, and we don't need them at the office. Then there's also the small question of efficiency. I see my male colleagues waiting in line to use the men's room, when the women's toilet is unoccupied. Which is precisely why Delta Airlines doesn't label those two bathrooms at the back of the plane as being solely for men and women. It just wouldn't fly. The University of Chicago just got the 10 single-use restrooms on campus designated gender neutral. It's time Yale followed suit. And this is not just an academic problem. There are tens of thousands of single-use toilets at workplaces and public spaces throughout the nation that are wrong-headedly designated for a single-sex. All these single-use toilets should stop discriminating. They should be open to all on a first-come, first-lock basis. This is not just good sense. It's the law. In the meantime individuals should just engage in a bit of creative civil disobedience. We can just ignore the signs on single-use toilets. When one toilet is being used, we can use the other—just like we do like on airplanes. This cross-over policy would also help shorten the lines that women often face given the disparity in available toilets. And crossing the gender line does more than save time. It actually furthers civil rights. It's refusing to accept separate but equal—particularly when it serves no purpose. A surprising number of people are already doing this just to save to time. But they often report that it's also kind of fun. It's a bit daring to enter a room that's been marked for others. It not only contravenes something our parents taught us, but it also puts us at risk as being misidentified as being members of the opposite sex. And these small steps make the world marginally safer for Riki Dennis and other transgendered people who often have no safe place to go. Just remember to put down the seat when you're done. http://www.slate.com/Default.aspx?id=2114441& Yes, according to this law professor, single sex single-use toilets are illegal. Is there nothing better for him to focus his attentions upon? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted March 15, 2005 Seriously. I'd rather him legally tell me just how exactly they cram all of that graham! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 15, 2005 Seriously. I'd rather him legally tell me just how exactly they cram all of that graham! I'd kill for a long legal brief on the merits of the "He who smelt it, dealt it" argument. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2005 I'd rather hear an impassioned arguement implicating Who EXACTLY "Let the Dogs Out." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2005 I want to know what love is I want him to show me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 15, 2005 I'd like to know what would it be like if God was one of us. You know, a slob like one of us. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boon 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2005 I'd just like to know, what's love got to do with it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 16, 2005 I'd just like to know, what's love got to do with it? Dude, it's just a broken-down emotion. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2005 Who, exactly, wrote the book of love? I think there may be some plagiarism issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 16, 2005 Is the truth really out there? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2005 Wassupwitdat? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 16, 2005 What you talking about, Willis? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boon 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2005 Do you smell... no that's too easy. How about- Why must I be a teenager in love? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 16, 2005 How much fucking wood could a fucking woodchuck chuck? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2005 Who's on first? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Slayer 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2005 You want it when? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2005 Who's on first? Exactly. Personally, I want to know the whereabout of this man: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2005 They should be working around the clock to figure out what the hell is wrong with Japan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted March 16, 2005 I want to know how exactly you determine if someone is three times a lady. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2005 Well? How much ARE they? I need a dollar amount, please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted March 16, 2005 All these years and STILL, no one has found Waldo. Sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Open the Muggy Gate 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2005 I thought they found him of Surf Ninjas, but then they said "PSYCHE"! I walked away dejected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted March 16, 2005 I dressed up as Waldo one year for Halloween. No one got the joke, sadly. People suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Open the Muggy Gate 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2005 I dressed up as Waldo one year for Halloween. No one got the joke, sadly. People suck. Thanks, you just gave me an idea for this year's halloween. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2005 I dressed up as Waldo one year for Halloween. Where were you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2005 I just find it necessary to comment that I started to read the replies here, and they might have been the dumbest, least funny thing I've ever read. It reminds me of every joke I've ever heard from people with no sense of humor. Sorry for flaming, but I just couldn't let this go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted March 16, 2005 You could have easily let this go, assface. No one was auditioning for amateur hour here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2005 If you didnt' find them funny, doesn't that kinda mean you don't have a sense of humor? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites