spman 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2005 I wasn't a dedicated WCW follower at the time, but I distinctly remember seeing Nitro a couple of times, and they would have The Giant come to the ring during NWO segments smoking. He'd smoke before and after his matches too. Was there any reason given as to why they had him do this? Is Paul White a heavy smoker in real life? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JST 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2005 To show that he didn't need to be in tip top shape to beat Sting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2005 If you belive the complete idots guide to pro wrestling, it was so the announcers could joke "dont smoke kids itll stunt your growth" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2005 Wight was a smoker at the time, not sure if he still is, and at that point was notoriously lazy, so they made it part of his on-screen character. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Some Guy 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2005 On the RR 2000 DVD one of the extras is Show telling Foley that he's the man. Show is lyingon his back getting worked on by a trainer and holding a pack of Marlboro Lights in his hand. So he was still a smoker 5 years ago. I expect that he still is. It really makes no difference as his style isn't really cardio instensive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MARTYEWR 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2005 Some pictures (you'll have to scroll down a little): http://www.ddtdigest.com/features/downfall.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2005 I expect that he still is. It really makes no difference as his style isn't really cardio instensive. When you're 500lbs and your cardio isn't that great to begin with, smoking can make all the difference. Sure, his style doesn't require him to go more than 15 minutes very often, but at his, size smoking makes more difference that in would a normal wrestler, so he has even more reason not to do it. He doesn't need to do anything else to hamper his ability, when he's already got his weight and laziness doing that for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Some Guy 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2005 It's not like Vince is going to fire him and eat the rest of his contract. So he probably doesn't care. If he did he wouldn't be getting fatter. Either way he gets pushed. Show is probably the guy most happy about the brand split, before that he wasn't even getting on PPVs and they actually ran a little angle about it and by the end of 2002 he was WWE Champion. Why should he bother trying if they are going to keep pushing him and he won't be fired? Either way Show does his job. He has finally learned how to play a giant, he's a passable promo guy, and he takes bumps that no other guy his size has ever taken. He is the one who got Lesnar over with all the suplexes and such. I'm wondering what you would expect out of him. 5 star matches? Whether he's a smoker, fat, and lazy or not, I still wouldn't want him in matches longer than 10 minutes because he has such a limited offense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2005 It's not like Vince is going to fire him and eat the rest of his contract. So he probably doesn't care. If he did he wouldn't be getting fatter. Either way he gets pushed. Show is probably the guy most happy about the brand split, before that he wasn't even getting on PPVs and they actually ran a little angle about it and by the end of 2002 he was WWE Champion. Why should he bother trying if they are going to keep pushing him and he won't be fired? I'm wondering what you would expect out of him. 5 star matches? Whether he's a smoker, fat, and lazy or not, I still wouldn't want him in matches longer than 10 minutes because he has such a limited offense. It's not like Vince is going to fire him and eat the rest of his contract. So he probably doesn't care. If he did he wouldn't be getting fatter. Either way he gets pushed. Vince still has his limits when it comes to Big Show. Remember, he got sent down to OVW in 2000 for being out of shape. Granted, he was still too big when they brought him back up, but the precedent is there if they feel Show is too big. Why should he bother trying if they are going to keep pushing him and he won't be fired? See above. Big Show obviously has some leeway when it comes to his weight and the shape he keeps himself in, but he can't let himself go too much, or it's right back down to OVW he goes. I'm wondering what you would expect out of him. 5 star matches? Whether he's a smoker, fat, and lazy or not, I still wouldn't want him in matches longer than 10 minutes because he has such a limited offense. Of course I don't want 5* matches out of him. Yes, his being in short matches doesn't mean he has to have great conditioning, but the fact remains that his smoking still makes him blow up faster than he would otherwise, and while that may only mean an extra 60 seconds before he gasses out, I'd still rather he be able to go for that extra 60 seconds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 30, 2005 I love how WCW took all of a guy's flaws and made them his in-ring character. Nothing like showing the fans how big a bunch of dicks they had working for them. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2005 Some pictures (you'll have to scroll down a little): http://www.ddtdigest.com/features/downfall.htm cool pics there, especially of jericho and his JPS plus the disgraced dean pic "Oh my god what happened to my picture of Dean-Dean?"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2005 I heard on a recent radio interview that Show quit (not sure if he started up again) about two months ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Some Guy 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2005 It's not like Vince is going to fire him and eat the rest of his contract. So he probably doesn't care. If he did he wouldn't be getting fatter. Either way he gets pushed. Show is probably the guy most happy about the brand split, before that he wasn't even getting on PPVs and they actually ran a little angle about it and by the end of 2002 he was WWE Champion. Why should he bother trying if they are going to keep pushing him and he won't be fired? I'm wondering what you would expect out of him. 5 star matches? Whether he's a smoker, fat, and lazy or not, I still wouldn't want him in matches longer than 10 minutes because he has such a limited offense. It's not like Vince is going to fire him and eat the rest of his contract. So he probably doesn't care. If he did he wouldn't be getting fatter. Either way he gets pushed. Vince still has his limits when it comes to Big Show. Remember, he got sent down to OVW in 2000 for being out of shape. Granted, he was still too big when they brought him back up, but the precedent is there if they feel Show is too big. Yeah, but when he came back it looked like the only weight he lost was muscle mass. And he gained that stupid tiger tatoo on his arm. Why should he bother trying if they are going to keep pushing him and he won't be fired? See above. Big Show obviously has some leeway when it comes to his weight and the shape he keeps himself in, but he can't let himself go too much, or it's right back down to OVW he goes. He is incredibly fat right now. Look at the guy, he wears 2 singlets to keep his gut in check and when he pulls down the strap his gut pours over the top of it. He is getting a big match on WM, one that actually has some sort of angle attached to it despite being that fat. And precedent that was set when they sent him down to OVW was immediately undone whe they brought him back up despite being out of shape. I'm wondering what you would expect out of him. 5 star matches? Whether he's a smoker, fat, and lazy or not, I still wouldn't want him in matches longer than 10 minutes because he has such a limited offense. Of course I don't want 5* matches out of him. Yes, his being in short matches doesn't mean he has to have great conditioning, but the fact remains that his smoking still makes him blow up faster than he would otherwise, and while that may only mean an extra 60 seconds before he gasses out, I'd still rather he be able to go for that extra 60 seconds. Sure and so would I but WWE apparently doesn't care and they employ him, not us. I hope he quit or has quit andgets into better shape for his health but he has no other reason to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2005 remember vince continued to use yokozuna, even when his weight balloned to ridiocolus proportions in 96 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2005 remember vince continued to use yokozuna, even when his weight balloned to ridiocolus proportions in 96 He still sent him to Duke University to go on a special diet to lose weight. Granted, Yoko lost no weight it seemed, but Vince still sent him home to diet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 31, 2005 remember vince continued to use yokozuna, even when his weight balloned to ridiocolus proportions in 96 He still sent him to Duke University to go on a special diet to lose weight. Granted, Yoko lost no weight it seemed, but Vince still sent him home to diet. Yeah. People forget that Yoko was basically gone for most of 1996. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted March 31, 2005 remember vince continued to use yokozuna, even when his weight balloned to ridiocolus proportions in 96 He still sent him to Duke University to go on a special diet to lose weight. Granted, Yoko lost no weight it seemed, but Vince still sent him home to diet. Yeah, college campuses are known for weight loss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted March 31, 2005 Yea I remember a raw mag article in mid 97 talking about Yoko was out trying to lose weight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheInsane 0 Report post Posted March 31, 2005 I met Paul Wight during the tour of Europe in 2003. Me an some friend found their hotel and sat down for a drink and almost all of SD'd roster on that tour was there as well. Big Show did smoke alot during those hours we were there. He also had so big lungs that a cigarette didnt last long at all which led to him smoking more cigarettes than a normal person just because of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2005 I remember when Big Show was getting his ass kicked on RAW by Jeff Hardy and Tommy Dreamer. He's one of the few people that the brand split did very well for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2005 remember vince continued to use yokozuna, even when his weight balloned to ridiocolus proportions in 96 He still sent him to Duke University to go on a special diet to lose weight. Granted, Yoko lost no weight it seemed, but Vince still sent him home to diet. Yeah, college campuses are known for weight loss. Duke University has a health and fitness center that's known as one the premiere weight loss centers in the entire world. Shows what you know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites