Guest MikeSC Report post Posted April 16, 2005 What's worse? A board with no material --- or a board where people are trying to stretch out no material to make it look like there's actually material. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2005 What's worse? A board with no material --- or a board where people are trying to stretch out no material to make it look like there's actually material. -=Mike It's all legit material that would be posted on the WWE board if it applied to them. The problem with TNA is like I said, since there's a 3 week lag between tapings, once everyone has discussed those, there's a disinterest and a lag so even though new stuff is being posted say at their website, no one bothers to make threads on it here. I'll try to be more proactive with that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2005 If it wasn't bad enough that every match was in a cage they had to make virtually every match a gimmick match on top of it. The point of a cage match is to keep the wrestlers in and prevent interferance. Now, how is that accomplished when they have a table match? Are they going to stack half a dozen tables in the corner of the little ring they use? Or is the thing going to spill out onto the floor, thus defeating the entire purpose of a cage match? Jeff Hardy is going to take a Mankind bump from the top of the cage to the outside, I reckon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2005 If it wasn't bad enough that every match was in a cage they had to make virtually every match a gimmick match on top of it. The point of a cage match is to keep the wrestlers in and prevent interferance. Now, how is that accomplished when they have a table match? Are they going to stack half a dozen tables in the corner of the little ring they use? Or is the thing going to spill out onto the floor, thus defeating the entire purpose of a cage match? Jeff Hardy is going to take a Mankind bump from the top of the cage to the outside, I reckon. Swanton from the top through the table, bet on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carnival 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2005 What's worse? A board with no material --- or a board where people are trying to stretch out no material to make it look like there's actually material. -=Mike All this discussion was about TNA. I think your post is the only one off topic here. And Hardy will do the swanton of the top of cage on to raven/table in the ring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted April 16, 2005 What's worse? A board with no material --- or a board where people are trying to stretch out no material to make it look like there's actually material. -=Mike It's all legit material that would be posted on the WWE board if it applied to them. The problem with TNA is like I said, since there's a 3 week lag between tapings, once everyone has discussed those, there's a disinterest and a lag so even though new stuff is being posted say at their website, no one bothers to make threads on it here. I'll try to be more proactive with that... When you have to openly state in your posts you're doing it to try and save the board --- you're saying you don't have material and you're trying to stretch it. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2005 What's worse? A board with no material --- or a board where people are trying to stretch out no material to make it look like there's actually material. -=Mike It's all legit material that would be posted on the WWE board if it applied to them. The problem with TNA is like I said, since there's a 3 week lag between tapings, once everyone has discussed those, there's a disinterest and a lag so even though new stuff is being posted say at their website, no one bothers to make threads on it here. I'll try to be more proactive with that... When you have to openly state in your posts you're doing it to try and save the board --- you're saying you don't have material and you're trying to stretch it. -=Mike Come on Mike, I was being ironic and a little sarcastic. Like I said, the material is there and we obviously get responses to it, it just needs to be posted. I'll try to be more proactive in the future so I don't have to bomb the board with 8 new threads at a time... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted April 16, 2005 TNA does not have enough news, nor interest, to warrant a seperate board. It hasn't for a long while. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carnival 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2005 What's worse? A board with no material --- or a board where people are trying to stretch out no material to make it look like there's actually material. -=Mike It's all legit material that would be posted on the WWE board if it applied to them. The problem with TNA is like I said, since there's a 3 week lag between tapings, once everyone has discussed those, there's a disinterest and a lag so even though new stuff is being posted say at their website, no one bothers to make threads on it here. I'll try to be more proactive with that... When you have to openly state in your posts you're doing it to try and save the board --- you're saying you don't have material and you're trying to stretch it. -=Mike Maybe we should post threads about every little thing that happens around TNA, like everyone does in the WWE folder. Abyss eats a Ham Sandwich! TNA Predications for 2015!?!?! OAO Impact threads! TNA Hiring for Janitor!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted April 16, 2005 Considering that this board has less than 9% of the posts the WWE board has... -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carnival 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2005 Considering that this board has less than 9% of the posts the WWE board has... -=Mike I find these threads that were created way more relevant discussion to the promotion, than 80% of the threads created in the WWE folder. I don't think they are filler at all. Mike if you don't find anything worth your while in this folder...maybe...just don't post in here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted April 16, 2005 Maybe we should post threads about every little thing that happens around TNA, like everyone does in the WWE folder. Abyss eats a Ham Sandwich! TNA Predications for 2015!?!?! OAO Impact threads! TNA Hiring for Janitor!!!! I thought Abyss only ate Cheese and Jelly sandwiches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
natey2k4 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2005 In a recent interview, Dusty stated that it wasn't him that wanted all the matches in a cage, but it was Dixie Carter and some other person, maybe Jerry. Because they felt the need for something new... Dusty was supposedly strongly against the idea. That however isn't me really sticking up for his booking, because I dislike it.. I'm just stating what I read, I believe on 411. ANYWAY, I think it is overkill... Roode v. Rhodes in a blindfold match? Well the most positive thing about that, is it won't hurt Roode too much when they put Rhodes over considering he was blindfolded. AJ Styles v. Abyss, Daniels v. Skipper, AMW v. Team Canada, and the 4 way X Division will all be great. The Main event should be okay as well. Raven/Jeff Hardy will be hit or miss, depending on the motivation level. Hoyt/Apolo is going to be all kinda of shit. Hoyt is gradually improving, but he still needs more time and throwing him in a singles match isnt going to help him much, especially with a guy that can't work. Apolo isn't a horrible worker by any means, but he is boring and dull. Hoyt BETTER go over, but he wont. Rhodes/Roode had potential to be a sleeper (looks bad, but turned out good) because Roode is AWESOME.. but it's going to suck with the gimmick they gave it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carnival 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2005 I didn't see that blindfold match on the card...now i'm not getting this PPV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
natey2k4 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2005 It's not as if you were going to order for that match anyway.. don't kid yourself. Rhodes will win, and that is just stupid booking regardless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2005 I didn't see that blindfold match on the card...now i'm not getting this PPV. I don't think that match would have been any better without blindfolds. Hell, if the viewer is blindfolded it would be a better match. One of only 2 weak matches on the card, the rest look good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
natey2k4 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2005 Rhodes/Roode had potential to be decent, don't kid yourself. Roode is a fantastic young worker, and Rhodes can be alright and probably better than normal in a cage. Rhodes showed some fire in WWE and if he can get that back, he'd be okay (although still dull and unlikeable). Roode is FANTASTIC though.. and its a waste he's in this match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carnival 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2005 ......so lesson to be learned here...don't kid yourself? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
natey2k4 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2005 I guess to an extent that's true... This PPV better be shaped right too. The Main Event of course should be last, because thats what the gimmick says. It's got the most important Gimmick. Dusty is probably smart for booking the blindfold match and the Hoyt/Apolo match because it'll spread the good stuff out nicely. If you booked back to back to back great matches... it's gonna be great for us Smarks at first, but the crowd will kill it for us being so dead from being exhausted. Start off with say... Michael Shane v. Shocker v. Kid Kash v. Chris Sabin (Should be a good spotfest) Bobby Roode v. Dustin Rhodes (terribly gimmicked, might be fun to watch once) Team Canada v. AMW (Should be VERY good) Lance Hoyt v. Apolo (Going to be amusingly bad) Christopher Daniels v. Elix Skipper (Should be awesome, with a some scientific wrestling too) Raven v. Jeff Hardy (definately hit or miss, but the crowd will pop for the table bust anyway.. ) AJ Styles v. Abyss (should be VERY entertaining) The Main Event 6 Man (should be alright for the marks) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carnival 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2005 sounds like a good line-up to me. I'd still like to see a world title match. I lose most interest in PPV's if the world title isn't on the line. But i just don't know who would face Jarrett at this point. X-Pac? that would be bad. Maybe a 3-Way with DDP and Nash? so Jarrett can beat 'em both at once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
natey2k4 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2005 I dont lose interest if the World Title is not wrestled for, as long as their is something going towards the world title. Theres two matches with World Title implications (Abyss v. Styles and the Main Event).. so taht keeps it good for me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Some Guy 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2005 Or in other words: Elix Skipper is better than both of them. (of course he isn't, but I hate when people choose to go with the "OMG hes gonna make someone look bad" side of the argument instead of the other) They've pushed AJ for a long time and finally jobbed him to Daniels, after they had several matches. To beat Daniels with anybody right now is counter-productive why push a guy that hard and put him over the best worker in the company only to beat him a month later? It makes no sense and makes both AJ and Daniels look bad. Plus, the X Title is the only one that means anything in the promotion if they start flipping it at every PPV it will kill the belt. I don't see why you would hate that argument. I would have no problem if Elix and Daniels had a long running feud that Elix won in the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted April 17, 2005 Considering that this board has less than 9% of the posts the WWE board has... -=Mike I find these threads that were created way more relevant discussion to the promotion, than 80% of the threads created in the WWE folder. I don't think they are filler at all. Mike if you don't find anything worth your while in this folder...maybe...just don't post in here. Oh, the one thing you don't need here is fewer posters... -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted April 17, 2005 Or in other words: Elix Skipper is better than both of them. (of course he isn't, but I hate when people choose to go with the "OMG hes gonna make someone look bad" side of the argument instead of the other) They've pushed AJ for a long time and finally jobbed him to Daniels, after they had several matches. To beat Daniels with anybody right now is counter-productive why push a guy that hard and put him over the best worker in the company only to beat him a month later? It makes no sense and makes both AJ and Daniels look bad. Plus, the X Title is the only one that means anything in the promotion if they start flipping it at every PPV it will kill the belt. I don't see why you would hate that argument. I would have no problem if Elix and Daniels had a long running feud that Elix won in the end. I'm not against the argument, but I doubt 2 quick title changes will hurt the heat of A.J. Styles (arguably the most over wrestler in TNA) and Chris Daniels (who has a nice following of his own). By bouncing the title around with lower-carders, it doesn't help anyone get over, but by having a bigger name drop it in an upset once, it's not too big of a deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted April 17, 2005 The question I have --- and this is a legit question --- is has the X Title actually helped anybody since Chris Sabin held it? I don't think Michael Shane was made more over thanks to it. I don't think it really made Petey Williams a potential draw. It seemed that up to the reign of Sabin, the belt actually helped the champ quite a bit. Now, it really doesn't seem to make a difference. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
natey2k4 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2005 I think it actually helped Williams quite a bit. Before he was X-Champ he got very little reaction, and sometimes would get a bit of heel heat cuz of the gimmick. As soon as he was champ, the reactions got louder, and nearing the end, the fans starting to FACE chant for Petey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2005 This picture is absolutely ridiculous. Replace Chris Daniels with Antonio Esfandiari and Elix Skipper with Phil Hellmuth Jr. or whatnot, and that could be a World Poker Tour ad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carnival 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2005 Mike if you don't find anything worth your while in this folder...maybe...just don't post in here. Oh, the one thing you don't need here is fewer posters... -=Mike Like I go into the Puroresu folder and say "how dare you post new about japan wrestling! You're just doing that to save the folder." t seemed that up to the reign of Sabin, the belt actually helped the champ quite a bit. Now, it really doesn't seem to make a difference. It helped Williams tremendously. Of course his finish helped him get over just as much. But your right as far as the X title has helped Sabin the most. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2005 The question I have --- and this is a legit question --- is has the X Title actually helped anybody since Chris Sabin held it? I don't think Michael Shane was made more over thanks to it. I don't think it really made Petey Williams a potential draw. It seemed that up to the reign of Sabin, the belt actually helped the champ quite a bit. Now, it really doesn't seem to make a difference. -=Mike Definitely helped Petey become a name and is helping Daniels establish himself as a top star. Also helped Style maintain "champion" status. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Tuck II Report post Posted April 18, 2005 + + + + = Black people laughing. Yeah, I'm ordering this PPV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites