Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted April 22, 2005 What kind of worker was Roddy Piper? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Decemberists 0 Report post Posted April 22, 2005 I won't admit to have seeing *loads* of his work, but for the most part it was pretty much modern "WWE style" brawling I think, long before anyone else was doing it anywhere near that well though. He would have been the post neck injury Austin to Ric Flair's Benoit I think would be a somewhat fair comparsion. Great matches, but not great technical displays of wrestling, if you know what I mean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shanghai Kid 0 Report post Posted April 22, 2005 I only saw late 80's, early 90's Piper, but I thought he was pretty good at telling a story and using his facial expressions/physical movements to get his points across. Roddy vs Bret Hart is one of my favorite matches, really tells a good story. Regardless, Piper will be remembered for his promos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted April 23, 2005 I'll say it: He sucked. Hard. He couldn't sell. He couldn't work. Psychology was non-existant. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2005 He looked to be really uncooperative in his 1980s heel WWF run as well. He made few, if any, look good. But bless his heart, I'll always love my Rowdy Roddy Piper's Greatest Hits video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2005 No. Piper was a good wrestler. When he was NWA before he joined the WWF, he could bloody wrestle. But as someone else said, he'll always be known for his promos and entertainment. But he could wrestle rings around 90% of the WWE 'stars'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted April 23, 2005 Piper, during his WWF run from 1984-1987, was as mentioned, never known to cooperate with his opponents (ranging from the biggest jobbers to Hogan), and got seriously over because of his mouth rather than his actually in-ring ability. Pre-WWF Piper was probably a good wrestler, but I haven't seen much of it, so I can't comment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strummer 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2005 Keller wrote a great article on Piper around 2000/2001. Basically Piper knew that he wasn't a great wrestler and knew that to stay over he could never job or give his opponents a lot of offense. He would refuse to job time after time and knew he could get away with it because of his drawing power. When he turned face he still never got beat down or swerved, he was always a step ahead of his opponents. He was quoted as saying "losing isn't my thing" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted April 24, 2005 Piper, during his WWF run from 1984-1987, was as mentioned, never known to cooperate with his opponents (ranging from the biggest jobbers to Hogan), and got seriously over because of his mouth rather than his actually in-ring ability. Pre-WWF Piper was probably a good wrestler, but I haven't seen much of it, so I can't comment. I've actually seen numerous of his earlier matches. He wasn't that great then, either. He really, really couldn't sell. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Betty Houle 0 Report post Posted April 24, 2005 I'll say it: He sucked. Hard. He couldn't sell. He couldn't work. Psychology was non-existant. -=Mike He was a very good worker for a time. He drew big money and put on matches that entertained people and he had charisma and could talk like a bastard. He didn't suck in the slightest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted April 24, 2005 The match with Bret Hart at Mania is about the only good match that I can think of him in. Very similar to Austin in 2001/2002 when he was completely falling apart as a worker. His matches are extremely predictable as well. If you've seen a few Piper matches you've seen them all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Report post Posted April 24, 2005 All I remember of him is that he could find ways to poke people in the eyes in a creative fashion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted April 24, 2005 Piper has had a few damn good matches, the ones with Bret and the dog collar with Greg Valentine being the most obvious examples. But he had to be in the ring with someone who knew how to adapt to his style. Piper didn't adapt to anyone, he did the same thing every night. And yes he could sell. Ever seen him fly backwards like he'd taken a 12-gauge round to the solar plexus after being hit by Andre? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DVD Spree Report post Posted April 26, 2005 All I remember of him is that he could find ways to poke people in the eyes in a creative fashion. So true. Although I'm npt the best person to ask, since I never cared for Piper's in-ring work and I couldn't stand his promos either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted April 26, 2005 As far as drawing money goes, Piper was a great worker. As far as ring work goes, everything before him joining the WWF was ok, but once he joined the WWF he was terrible, but it didn't really matter, because he was drawing the people in with his mic work anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest M. Harry Smilac Report post Posted April 27, 2005 The only person who might have thrown an uglier wimpy looking clothesline then Sting. Still two of my top favorites though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted April 27, 2005 The match with Bret Hart at Mania is about the only good match that I can think of him in. Very similar to Austin in 2001/2002 when he was completely falling apart as a worker. His matches are extremely predictable as well. If you've seen a few Piper matches you've seen them all. Actually, I really liked Austin's work in 2001. He had the 2/3 falls match with HHH, the match with Rock at WM X-7, the series on Raw and Smackdown with Benoit, the SS match with Angle, a great Smackdown match with RVD, and several other very good matches during that time period. If anything, that seemed to be his peak as a worker, as he was trying to ignore the neck problems, and focus on putting on good matches. It obviously cost him, as he was pretty much forced to retire shortly afterward, but I have no complaints whatsoever about his ring work from that period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted April 27, 2005 I'll say this much, his match with Bret at WM8 is one of my favourite and the psychology in it was supoib. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites