Guest nokia Report post Posted May 31, 2005 Credit to the Wrestling 365 Newsletter Information has come out that the deal between NWA-TNA and WGN might have fallen through at the last minute. The deal was supposedly going to be announced tomorrow but we're told Dixie Carter did something that prevented a contract from being signed. That's not to say that the two sides won't reach an agreement but as of right now the deal is off. So far the company hasn't told any of it's talent about negotiations breaking down for fear of causing a panic. The saving grace here is that TNA left Fox Sports Net on really good terms so it's possible a new agreement could be reached with them. Hopefully this matter will be resolved within the next day or two, but as it stands TNA has no TV outlet aside from pay-per-view. Rumor has it NWA-TNA and WGN were fighting over the time slot. TNA wants 8-10 while WGN wants 7-9 and since they are on Central Time everything starts at 7 and ends at 9 in time for the 9 O'Clock News in Chicago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest abowen33 Report post Posted May 31, 2005 Get the deal done, retards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2005 (edited) TNA should go for WGN's idea. Going against Raw would kill ratings, IMO. Serious wrestling fans would rather see top-rate talent like Benoit or Jericho being regularly misused instead of seeing lesser talents fill their TV. Casual fans will hear they'll have to stop paying attention to Raw or tape it and choose not to watch. At least with 7-9 CT (8-10 ET) they get an hour to announce and build a main event to convince the people watching to stay on. Edited May 31, 2005 by Jobber of the Week Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carnival 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2005 7-9 is way better. god damnit dixie! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fro 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2005 This is definitely a bogus rumor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2005 (edited) That rumor sounds like BS - TNA would be uber foolish to compete both hours against Raw, even Jarrett himself has to know that. Plus as mentioned, WGN News at Nine is a staple on that network and I dont blame WGN for not wanting to change that up. All in all it just reeks of internet gossip from a less than reputable website. Having an unopposed hour before Raw is key to TNA's possible success on Monday nights, bottom line. Edited May 31, 2005 by RedJed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Astro101 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2005 IF that's true, then TNA is stupid because the station's not going to change the time the news is gonna come on, especially for just one night out of the week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zyn081 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2005 At least some people see that it doesnt make sense to go up against RAW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2005 At least some people see that it doesnt make sense to go up against RAW. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> For one hour, I dont see the problem going head to head but for two hours, no way - not unless TNA was a three hour program every Monday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zyn081 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2005 At least some people see that it doesnt make sense to go up against RAW. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> For one hour, I dont see the problem going head to head but for two hours, no way - not unless TNA was a three hour program every Monday. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I still think its madness. They are leagues behind the E. Only die hards and alienated WWE fans will watch TNA over RAW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scroby 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2005 I know your all gonna hate me for saying this but...I really hope the deal falls through and Spike picks them up. Go TNA to Spike. Wooo Sorry It'd be easier for me to see TNA through Spike than WGN. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fro 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2005 By the way, WGN is expecting TNA to do a 0.5 in the ratings, and they will be "thrilled" with 0.7 The late replay on Saturday nights of TNA does a 0.26 on average and the daytime airing on Friday does a 0.22, so those numbers are *very* attainable. This is from the Observer this week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fro 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2005 http://www.liveaudiowrestling.com/wo/news/...t.asp?aID=13356 Meltzer rumor kills. They're still in discussions with WGN but there are significant negatives to TNA in the deal on the table. Sounds like the earliest we can expect a deal is next week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2005 At least some people see that it doesnt make sense to go up against RAW. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> For one hour, I dont see the problem going head to head but for two hours, no way - not unless TNA was a three hour program every Monday. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I still think its madness. They are leagues behind the E. Only die hards and alienated WWE fans will watch TNA over RAW. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thing is that there are ALOT of alienated WWE fans who either still currently watch the product sporatically out of habit and/or just need a good excuse to go somewhere else. The argument about trying to get the old WCW base as well as the huge number WWE used to have (remember the days Raw used to get 7.X ratings and 9.X quarters??) isnt as valid as, say 2-3 years ago, but it's still plausable that if they put out a strong alterative to WWE (while people will be flipping through and seeing "another" wrestling show or maybe get turned back on to wrestling since its not WWE) that they could slowly generate some positive numbers, like perhaps a 2.0 rating in due time. Wishful thinking but I think its possible given the huge number of alienated fans out there not pro-WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2005 I know your all gonna hate me for saying this but...I really hope the deal falls through and Spike picks them up. Go TNA to Spike. Wooo Sorry It'd be easier for me to see TNA through Spike than WGN. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I dont get that - wouldnt it make more sense for TNA to get the WGN deal (so they arent completely without TV until October) and then also try and get the Spike deal as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scroby 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(Scroby @ Jun 1 2005, 09:14 PM) I know your all gonna hate me for saying this but...I really hope the deal falls through and Spike picks them up. Go TNA to Spike. Wooo Sorry It'd be easier for me to see TNA through Spike than WGN. I dont get that - wouldnt it make more sense for TNA to get the WGN deal (so they arent completely without TV until October) and then also try and get the Spike deal as well? Now that I wouldn't actually mind. If TNA were planning that, I'd be all for it. Now if the deal with WGN goes through and TNA just stays with WGN and doesn't put something on Spike, I can't watch TNA at all. Comcast in the bay area of California doesn't carry WGN at all and I can't even directly order it. I already asked Comcast about that. For me to get WGN I would basically have to get dish and I really don't like dish. Plus for me to install a dish, I would have to go through the landlords and I'm pretty sure they would deny it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted June 10, 2005 From PWInsider: The WGN Superstation out of Chicago, Illinois will not be picking up TNA Wrestling, according to emails sent out by the station's webmaster to fans who had written requesting information about the potential show, which would have aired on Monday nights from 8-10 PM. WGN's programming department confirmed the information in the emails during a phone call this morning, declining the comment on exactly what caused the negotiations to end without a deal being reached. There is no word yet as to whether TNA or WGN were the ones to walk away from the negotiations, but as TNA moves forward, WGN (at this point) is no longer an option for any potential television outlet in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted June 10, 2005 That's not good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carnival 0 Report post Posted June 10, 2005 they are as good as dead. or fucked until spike tv in sept. IF spike even wants em. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted June 10, 2005 How ironic that I basically thought it really wasnt sounding good and posted such just earlier today and then this comes through. I had a strong feeling this was going to occur, and one can assume that fucking idiot from NWO Ohio and/or the Jarretts power plays with that whole situation made WGN realize this is not the kind of company they want to deal with (meaning the feeling they probably got is that it's a very unstable company right now), as the politics within the organization are horrible right now. The best to happen to the company at this point is probably for the Jarretts to leave TNA completely even if that means some of the company goes with him. The Jarretts and the dumbshit from NWO Ohio trying to pull a power play to get control of TNA when TNA was in their most dire time of need to jump up a few steps is showing, to me, that Panda can keep running TNA but they need the Jarretts out of there. They (Jarretts) arent concerned about the company as a whole at all, and instead are seriously putting the entire future of the promotion at risk currently due to their insistance and fighting that they NEED the control, and dare I say it might be too late now and they ruined any last chance of true survival to make this company have any chance of succeeding. Get them out of there NOW. The regime since the last ppv has been full of so much potential for me, and to see them now not even get a chance to shine due to the politics involved and the incompetance put forth by an outside party is just tragic. Now I guess this means TNA goes back to FSN, oh fucking joy. There isnt a chance to me that Spike will take them now after this mess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carnival 0 Report post Posted June 10, 2005 Jarrett's in cahoots with NWA/Ohio guy is purely speculation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted June 10, 2005 Jarrett's in cahoots with NWA/Ohio guy is purely speculation. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why else would someone all of a sudden appear as wanting to buy out Panda's stock when at the same time, the Jarretts lost power though last month? It's a certainly logical explanation to all of this. I guess time will tell as I would bet the truth will come out relatively quick here. The sad thing out of all of this is that maybe also, the NWO Ohio guy was right and the deal might have fallen through a few weeks ago. Who knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carnival 0 Report post Posted June 10, 2005 I know, it's a logical explanation. And it very well could be true. Jeff is always innocent in my mind, until proven guilty.....multiple times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted June 10, 2005 Weren't people saying their departure from FSN was on good terms and it's possible they could go back there? More of the same > going downhill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted June 10, 2005 I'm sure I'm in the minority but I'd rather have Jeff Jarrett running around in the main event scene than watching AMW running around the tag team scene. If Panda can hold on long enough, Ted Turner was wanting to get back into the rasslin' business, right? When can he legally? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quit Calling My Mama 0 Report post Posted June 10, 2005 I'm sure I'm in the minority but I'd rather have Jeff Jarrett running around in the main event scene than watching AMW running around the tag team scene. If Panda can hold on long enough, Ted Turner was wanting to get back into the rasslin' business, right? When can he legally? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> April 2006. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted June 10, 2005 Turner is against getting back into the wrestling business. He was interested in it, but when advised of the start up costs it would take to get such a venture off the ground, he decided it wasn't worth it. Don't count on Uncle Ted to bail TNA out, because it is highly unlikely to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest okplayer Report post Posted June 11, 2005 Keller Audio Update: Breaking details on TNA-WGN. TNA walked away. WGN wanted TNA to pay for the timeslot. There is no panic in TNA. Keller said there is something else in the works. He said Dixie Carter is nonchalant over the situation; there are better options out there. 6/21 there is a TV tapping, perhaps for the international iMPACTS or internet show. TNA knew the WGN deal was done when they planned the 6/21 TV tapings. Everybody is impressed with Frank Dickerson There is no break up between Dixie and Frank, and the Jarrets. Taken from the DVD boards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eirejmcmahon 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2005 So was WGN looking for TNA to pay for the slot a brand new development or has that been the case from day one ?!? FSN are in a very strong position now and TNA could end up having to spend more just to get back on their original (rubbish) timeslot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites