Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 Sorry folks, but this is some damned compelling stuff. The entire day of 9/11, minute by minute, according to official and unofficial reports. A Flash video specifically about the Pentagon. (give it a minute, it's a 3MB file) Pretty intriguing, man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 If that was a missile that hit the Pentagon, how do you account for the other plane? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ted the Poster 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 That's really not intriguing at all. It's bunch of loons who are afraid Patrick Stewart will eventually kidnap and torture them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 If that's the Flash video with Marilyn Manson music, I can't take it seriously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Arnold_OldSchool Report post Posted April 30, 2005 I must say the whole not releasing the other tapes part draws suspection.... Why can't you take it seriously? (Not saying its the truth, just curious) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carnival 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 I like how Rumsfeld said "we shot down that plane over penn." thats a big ooops! I think either Bush planned the whole thing...which is a bit outrageous..i know. Or he knew and just didn't do shit about it till it was too late. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 Carnival, that's maybe the stupidest thing I've seen said on this board all month. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carnival 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 Carnival, that's maybe the stupidest thing I've seen said on this board all month. which part? Bush planned the whole thing. I know...it's crazy as hell. And probably False as hell. But there is some interesting evidence to support that theory, although not much of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 Implying that an American president would plan out the terrorist attacks which caused thousands of innocent deaths, could've easily caused thousands more than they did, completely destroyed one of the nation's most prominent landmarks, damaged his own military headquarters, and sent the whole country into an economic depression from which we've yet to fully recover. Not to mention that fourth plane was going to crash into his own house. Sorry. "Pretty fucking unlikely" doesn't begin to cover it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Metal Maniac 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 The sad part is, I know a guy who swears up and down that it was all Bush's doing. If not for the fact that there's video of him in that classroom, my buddy probably woulda claimed Bush was flying the damned planes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gWIL 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 I don't think Bush did it..., but I don't think we know more than 3% of the story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carnival 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 In your opinion Jingus. It's not as farfetched as you think it is. Who profitted most from this war? Who got himself a second term as president? Who made us the most hated nation in world? Who led us to a war in Iraq, when there was no reason to enter Iraq? Who didn't catch Osama? What export are we now mining out of Iraq and Afganistan not to mention out funding to build a pipline for oil through afganistan? What is afganistan's cash crop now that we set them "free"? Do You know the answer to any of those questions? The only way the american people would support another war in the middle east is if they "attacked" us first. And apparently thats what "happened". I'm not here to argue details about it, i'm just saying try not to be so blind. You can say it's a ridiculous claim, but have you any evidence to prove it false? NO At least Evidence would be more powerful proof than a "He wouldn't do that!" attitude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 People need to get new hobbies. Cause for the last time, the Pentagon IS NOT LIKE OTHER BUILDINGS. The building was DESIGNED to withstand an atomic blast. A missile wouldn't have gotten past the first ring. A giant frickin plane full of jet fuel, yeah that will BARELY get past the first ring. And yeah, it's really easy to make an entire plane full of people just vanish. People need to stop, I mean seriously stop. This is getting as stupid as people who claim the Vietnam War never happened. Take up stamp collecting or something and find something else to pin on Bush that actually makes an ounce of god damn sense. I'd quicker believe Bush was an alien from Venus who was out to steal all the pop stars of the world for his global pyramid scheme than some of the half baked conspiracy theories about the Pentagon and 9/11. Christ, I'll quicker believe Lee Harvey Oswald was a Jedi Master so that is why he was able to reload so fast and change the direction of the bullet in mid-flight than this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 If Bush's plan all along was to create 9/11 in order for American to be the most reviled country in the world then that's the whackiest scheme I've heard of in quite some time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 And yeah, it's really easy to make an entire plane full of people just vanish. They're hiding with the people from KAL 007 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 And yeah, it's really easy to make an entire plane full of people just vanish. They're hiding with the people from KAL 007 I thought they were on that island that no one can find that has Jimmy Hoffa, Elvis, Tupac, and Biggie? Damn man, I gotta change my sources. That lawn ghome just isn't providing me with accurate data anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carnival 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 I thought they were on that island that no one can find that has Jimmy Hoffa, Elvis, Tupac, and Biggie? don't forget Dave Thomas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ted the Poster 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 Take up stamp collecting or something and find something else to pin on Bush that actually makes an ounce of god damn sense. I'd quicker believe Bush was an alien from Venus who was out to steal all the pop stars of the world for his global pyramid scheme than some of the half baked conspiracy theories about the Pentagon and 9/11. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 Implying that an American president would plan out the terrorist attacks which caused thousands of innocent deaths, could've easily caused thousands more than they did, completely destroyed one of the nation's most prominent landmarks, damaged his own military headquarters, and sent the whole country into an economic depression from which we've yet to fully recover. Not to mention that fourth plane was going to crash into his own house. Sorry. "Pretty fucking unlikely" doesn't begin to cover it. That's why it'd be easy to do. What would the point be? (stares at Patriot Act, Office of Homeland Security, 150,000 soldiers still trying to finish a war in Iraq, 10,000 soldiers still prowling the Afghan/Pakistani border, Patriot Act II, etc.) As long as you're dedicated enough, the ends can justify the means. Even if this stuff ends up not being true in the end, you can't allow yourself to discount every possibility that isn't the official one. That leads to dangerous shit. By the way, there's no real proof that fourth plane was going to crash into the White House. Conjecture, at best. Amazing how MUSICAL CHOICES prevent someone from taking TEXTUAL INFORMATION seriously. And how was the Pentagon designed to take a nuclear blast if it was finished before the first chain reaction at the University of Chicago even took place? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 The reason I didn't take the Manson video seriously was because it looked like a fucking 4th grader's PowerPoint show. Frame 32: "BUT WHERE IS TEH PLANE?" *blast shitty metal* Frame 33: "THERE WAS NO PLANE!" And nothing bolsters credibility like Hitler! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jorge Gorgeous 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 People need to get new hobbies. Cause for the last time, the Pentagon IS NOT LIKE OTHER BUILDINGS. The building was DESIGNED to withstand an atomic blast. A missile wouldn't have gotten past the first ring. A giant frickin plane full of jet fuel, yeah that will BARELY get past the first ring. And yeah, it's really easy to make an entire plane full of people just vanish. People need to stop, I mean seriously stop. This is getting as stupid as people who claim the Vietnam War never happened. Take up stamp collecting or something and find something else to pin on Bush that actually makes an ounce of god damn sense. I'd quicker believe Bush was an alien from Venus who was out to steal all the pop stars of the world for his global pyramid scheme than some of the half baked conspiracy theories about the Pentagon and 9/11. Christ, I'll quicker believe Lee Harvey Oswald was a Jedi Master so that is why he was able to reload so fast and change the direction of the bullet in mid-flight than this. DUDE THAT HAPPENED! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 Where was Hitler? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 Who the fuck is dumb enough to claim that 'Nam never happened? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carnival 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 Who the fuck is dumb enough to claim that 'Nam never happened? Good question I've actually never heard of that one. I think he just made it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbacon 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 Bush didn't plan 9/11 or anything like that, but it was extremely convenient for his administration and the PNAC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2005 Christ, some of you people are just sad. It' called Occam's Razor, look into it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AboveAverage484 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2005 In your opinion Jingus. It's not as farfetched as you think it is. Who profitted most from this war? Who got himself a second term as president? Who made us the most hated nation in world? Who led us to a war in Iraq, when there was no reason to enter Iraq? Who didn't catch Osama? What export are we now mining out of Iraq and Afganistan not to mention out funding to build a pipline for oil through afganistan? What is afganistan's cash crop now that we set them "free"? Do You know the answer to any of those questions? The only way the american people would support another war in the middle east is if they "attacked" us first. And apparently thats what "happened". I'm not here to argue details about it, i'm just saying try not to be so blind. You can say it's a ridiculous claim, but have you any evidence to prove it false? NO At least Evidence would be more powerful proof than a "He wouldn't do that!" attitude. Well guess what, he's the motherfuckin', fuckin' one who calls the shots. So deal with it for three more years, hippie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2005 So a friend of mine may be right about Bush planning it all? I thought he was insane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2005 No. He is insane. This isn't the Kennedy assassination, people, there are overwhelming mountains of proof that Islamic terrorists hijacked those planes and crashed them into buildings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2005 Or so we are told. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites