PS3 design officially revealed...

[Guest Vitamin X]

*orgasm*

[Use Your Illusion 0]

Australia hasn't even got Tekken 5 yet and I already want Tekken 6

[Anya 0]

That Jin pic is enough to make me want to import a PS3.

 

 

Although why is the press assuming it's T6? It never says that in the trailer, unless someone at the conference said it. It could be TTT2. It might not even be an actual game. PS2 unveiling had footage of Jin and Paul fighting that never meant anything.

[AndrewTS 0]

Tekken doesn't use diagonals? Hahaha. That's great. Tekken has more complex motions involving diagonals than anything in a Street Fighter game.

My apologies. MKD's crappiness clouded my mind.

[bobobrazil1984 0]

wow, that looks pretty impressive, both in specs and interesting design. i like it better than xbox360. of course what really decides is the game library, but assuming it has the kind of library the PS2 built up, it looks like a winner.

[Use Your Illusion 0]

Please, let's not bring Mortal Kombat into this discussion. For the sanity of us all.

[Karnage 0]

The PS3 controller looks horrible. It's like some sort of dual shock sex toy.

[Guest Vitamin X]

And this is the controller...holy fucking shit...it sucks..

 

I'm only getting a "This image cannot be displayed because it's taking up too much of ImageShack's bandwidth" error. Anyone got a pic of this supposedly horrific controller?

[MrRant 0]

Check Gamespot.com

[bobobrazil1984 0]

the controller is fairly similar to the ps1/2 controler, its just way (way way) curvier/rounder around the edges. hopefully it will keep the comfort level of the Ps1/2 controlelr (my favorite controller ever)

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

Love the Spider-Man font

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

Its ashame Nintendo has such great security that no one can leak anything about the console worth leaking like pictures and stuff.

 

Cause having seen the other 2 now I really want to see the Revolution.

 

Revolution is a Mystery...

[AndrewTS 0]

Its ashame Nintendo has such great security that no one can leak anything about the console worth leaking like pictures and stuff.

 

Cause having seen the other 2 now I really want to see the Revolution.

 

Revolution is a Mystery...

The console look itself isn't going to mean much. It's going to be all about the controller.

 

The GC controller is fine for most games, but it's very untraditional and the layout feels odd for most non-Nintendo games. I blame Miyamoto for his silly wish to go back to having games that rely on two main buttons. You can still have them without making ONE HUGE BUTTON, a smaller one, and oddly placed buttons besides. If it has a decent d-pad, at least 1 analog stick, and a traditional button placement, they can shove gyroscopics, smellomatics, and taste sensors in and it won't hurt.

 

 

This ^ wouldn't cut it.

 

It gives me memories of that awful Turbo Touch 360, and that's not even counting the lack of buttons.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

1 Pad for each hand

 

Please dont let that be the controller. I could handle the other picture render of the console here making it out to look like a Mac Mini clone, but those controllers wont cut it. True 2 seperate control pads with gyroscopic control and whatever the "Advanced Analogic

Button" is sounds "Revolutionary, it would probably take too much getting used to, to be able to be used..

 

I just realized that Nintendo's conference is 9 am tomorrow and in all likelyhood they will show off the Revolution, so its only 8 hours more to go..

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Sony hadn't really announced online plans yet (ditto with MS, although we can assume at least X-Box Live + maybe extra features), but the big name titles would likely have some online support anyway.

EVERYONE that bothers to hook the machine up to their router is going to get access to that Xbox Live Silver, and they've already detailed just what that entails. I think just about every game will have SOME Live functions, such as built-in friends list, so that even if a game is a single player experience, you can still receive chats and get game invites.

 

There's a hard drive sold separately

 

We all know how well add-ons work.

 

That's something that hasn't really proven to be a huge selling point in console games so far anyway.  Now that Sony's got the industy by the balls, they're not taking any risks.

 

If Sony thinks they can just ramp up the same game experience with horsepower over and over, well, they darn well shouldn't. Especially since their biggest move was taking advantage of Nintendo's complacency to just keep making cartridge-based systems with a multiple of bits more than the last one.

 

 

MS reps might admit the PS3 has more power, but again, it depends on how you use it. The Dreamcast was buried under Sony's constant hype and pressure about just how the PS2 was so much more powerful and better than anything that came before it, and yet when it launched, DOA2 on Dreamcast had less jaggies and a more refined look than DOA2 Hardcore for PS2 did.

[AndrewTS 0]

EVERYONE that bothers to hook the machine up to their router is going to get access to that Xbox Live Silver, and they've already detailed just what that entails. I think just about every game will have SOME Live functions, such as built-in friends list, so that even if a game is a single player experience, you can still receive chats and get game invites.

 

X-Box Live is one of the few advantages MS has going for them, while Sony's plans are still a big question mark. I don't see the appeal of Live functions that don't offer some kind of gameplay interaction, myself, though.

 

We all know how well add-ons work.

 

X-Box 360's hard drive isn't that far off from an "add-on", really. It's completely optional whether people want to buy the HD version for 100 bucks more, or the base model. Presumably if you get the base model you still have an option to get the HD later on. Sounds like an add-on to me.

 

I've mentioned in the past that nearly all prior console add-ons were introduced towards the middle or or end of the consoles' lifespans, given only small support, and thus never caught on. MS and Sony are both going to be launching their systems with hard drives available. If they make it worth gamers' while, they'll adopt.

 

If Sony thinks they can just ramp up the same game experience with horsepower over and over, well, they darn well shouldn't. Especially since their biggest move was taking advantage of Nintendo's complacency to just keep making cartridge-based systems with a multiple of bits more than the last one.

 

That's a rather skewed view of what actually happened. Sony's biggest move was having the superior 3D system, with better looking launch titles, that was easier to develop for, at 100 bucks less than Sega's system--a system whose launch titles looked hideous. (It didn't hurt that Sony and Sega's marketing for their systems were equally shitty.)

 

By the time the N64 showed up, it had one excellent system-selling title, lots of dead release air, and a cartridge format that 3rd party developers were not eager to develop for.

 

MS reps might admit the PS3 has more power, but again, it depends on how you use it. The Dreamcast was buried under Sony's constant hype and pressure about just how the PS2 was so much more powerful and better than anything that came before it, and yet when it launched, DOA2 on Dreamcast had less jaggies and a more refined look than DOA2 Hardcore for PS2 did.

 

The DC is, in ways, more powerful than the PS2. BUT....PS2 had DVD. Take a look at how many PS2 games right now run off CDs, and how many run off DVDs.

 

The Dreamcast was never going to last very long against the PS2, because nearly all the games we play today either would not fit on CDs, or they would require multiple CDs.

 

Funny thing--the PS3, if all the specs are as they've been mentioned to be over and over again, supports DVD, HD-DVD and Blu-Ray. If Blu-Ray or HD-DVD catch on in a big way with developers, XB360 is stuck with an inferior format. XB360 uses standard DVDs, and standard DVDs alone.

 

No kidding that a first-generation PS2 game made when developers were just learning the hardware looks pretty pitiful compared to a game that *designed on the Naomi arcade hardware* then *ported to the Dreamcast.*

[Jobber of the Week 0]

X-Box 360's hard drive isn't that far off from an "add-on", really. It's completely optional whether people want to buy the HD version for 100 bucks more, or the base model. Presumably if you get the base model you still have an option to get the HD later on. Sounds like an add-on to me.

You keep posting misinformation. That was a pre-release rumor and isn't true. There is only one model, and it comes with a 20GB hard drive. That hard drive CAN be removed and upgraded with a larger model that could appear later, but they are not shipping consoles without a hard drive in the box.

 

Sony's biggest move was having the superior 3D system

 

That's debatable. Even at launch in the midst of all the hype, GameSpot and that CNET game site that got shot down a few years ago were both advising people to not toss out their Dreamcasts just yet, because the system really wasn't doing anything all that impressive in games despite the fancy tech demos and boastful executives (both of which are out in rare form, again, for the PS3 right now.)

 

Didn't matter. The hype and the possibilities of fancier PS2-based sequels to everyone's favorite PSX titles and franchises meant that the Dreamcast was forgotten about.

 

 

The DC is, in ways, more powerful than the PS2.  BUT....PS2 had DVD.  Take a look at how many PS2 games right now run off CDs, and how many run off DVDs.

A lot of that is wasted on FMV, I think. FFX fit all on one DVD and while it had plenty of game resources, it also had enough FMV to drive a man to tears.

 

The only big game that I could have seen being a problem is Grand Theft Auto. "Please insert the San Fierro disc, or turn around and return to Los Santos!"

 

Also, a lot of PS2s have problems with CD-based games, so many developers aren't using that much space at all but use DVDs to avoid tech support calls and so much incompatability crying later.

 

If Blu-Ray or HD-DVD catch on in a big way with developers, XB360 is stuck with an inferior format.  XB360 uses standard DVDs, and standard DVDs alone.

 

Again, what are you going to put on all that space? Unreal Engine 3.0 games are running on DVDs and those are state of the art. Doom 3 and Half-Life 2, PC versions, fit on a DVD.

[Guest Vitamin X]

[dubq 0]

img96.echo.cx?

 

Seriously, can someone post these photos on Photobucket or something...

[bobobrazil1984 0]

interestingly, when I first saw it, I thought it looked huge, but here's a size comparison chart:

 

http://img49.echo.cx/my.php?image=11163159590196yf.jpg

[AndrewTS 0]

That's debatable. Even at launch in the midst of all the hype, GameSpot and that CNET game site that got shot down a few years ago were both advising people to not toss out their Dreamcasts just yet, because the system really wasn't doing anything all that impressive in games despite the fancy tech demos and boastful executives (both of which are out in rare form, again, for the PS3 right now.)

 

Didn't matter. The hype and the possibilities of fancier PS2-based sequels to everyone's favorite PSX titles and franchises meant that the Dreamcast was forgotten about.

 

That comment was in regards to Saturn vs. Playstation, since the N64 and PS didn't launch together. Sony already had a big head start when N64 came on the scene.

 

In the case of DC vs. PS2, the new choice in media formats was the main factor in the DC's abandonment, IMO. Note that the Dreamcast was selling quite well, but when the 3rd parties fled for Sony, it was over. Sega's badly damaged rep was another factor, of course.

 

Are you saying that Sony's making an exceptionally wise move right now with their boasting and bragging, while you have Peter Moore sucking up to MTV execs and Gates claiming Halo 3 will single-handedly cripple the PS3's launch?

 

I'm bewildered MS would let the current Perfect Dark see the light of day.

 

Again, what are you going to put on all that space? Unreal Engine 3.0 games are running on DVDs and thoseare state of the art. Doom 3 and Half-Life 2, PC versions, fit on a DVD.

 

I honestly don't know, hence the "if." It may not simply be storage size, as there could be other advantages. However, worse case scenario is that Sony will have the PS3 to push Blu-Ray for movies, but if HD-DVD wins they're still covered. X-Box doesn't use HD-DVD, so it'd only play regular DVDs. Like it or not, the PS2 had a big advantage by being more than simply a games console.

[Special K 0]

It's all about the games. I'll probably be getting the PS3.

 

You know what revolutionary feature I want in the PS3? A disc drive that doesn't start breaking down after a year and a half. Sony better get on the fucking ball with that, since I had to buy 2 PSs and 2 PS2s, and on both i waited till they were at least in the second generation.

[AndrewTS 0]

interestingly, when I first saw it, I thought it looked huge, but here's a size comparison chart:

 

http://img49.echo.cx/my.php?image=11163159590196yf.jpg

That doesn't look right--the 360 is going to be a monster yet again compared to the others?

 

It looks off to me.

 

How about the controllers? I think the X-Box one looks a little more inviting than the Dualshock Dildo.

[Guest Vitamin X]

interestingly, when I first saw it, I thought it looked huge, but here's a size comparison chart:

 

http://img49.echo.cx/my.php?image=11163159590196yf.jpg

YES! Microsoft once again makes the monster of the bunch. I wonder how much it weighs.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

interestingly, when I first saw it, I thought it looked huge, but here's a size comparison chart:

 

http://img49.echo.cx/my.php?image=11163159590196yf.jpg

That doesn't look right--the 360 is going to be a monster yet again compared to the others?

 

It looks off to me.

Considering that the Xbox's DVI port is shown as bigger than both the PS3's HDMI ports and a third port for good measure, I'd say so.

[dubq 0]

Somehow, I think that 'comparison chart' is a crock of shit.

[dubq 0]

Yep - and it is bullshit.

 

There're photo's of the PS3 and the Xbox360 in a newspaper [DOSE for you Canadian readers] that I picked up today. Both pics have people in them, and let's just say that the PS3 looks to be about the same size as the original PS2, maybe a touch bigger. As for the Xbox360, it actually looks smaller than the original Xbox, slimmer too.

 

Trying to find the pics online, but no luck so far. If anyone has a scanner and the May 20th issue of DOSE, they should scan and post.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

I think it's funny that people are already deciding which of the next consoles they will get even though none of them have been released and no one really knows what titles will be available at launch yet. All the misinformation and crap...it's really hillarious to me.

 

Personally, I can't believe all these new consoles are coming out already, at basically the same time. It seems like the Gamecube and Xbox just came out a couple years ago (I know it's been more like four, but geez...) Are there that many gamers that are really sitting around thinking "Man, the graphics on my Xbox look like garbage, and all these games feel like Pong...Microsoft really needs to come out with a new system now?" I can kind of understand the PS3...I mean, PS2 has been out for what? Almost seven years now?

 

I still play my Dreamcast a lot (a system that should have done fine, but what did you expect when the gaming stores that carried it barely promoted it or gave its games shelf space?...prefering to suck Sony's dick)...just for Fire Pro D. I don't think I'll be hitching onto the bandwagon of any of these new systems yet.

[dubq 0]

Feh, I have no problem deciding this early. It'll be PS3 and Revolution for me. I've never had an interest in the original Xbox or any of it's exclusive titles - and I doubt that my stance will change in consideration to the 360.

[Rendclaw 0]

As I have said before, its always wise to wait several months at least before buying the system. Unless you 1.) have the scratch to spend, 2.) are able to find one amidst all the rush and hype come release time, and/or 3.) you are that obsessed over being one of the first to own one.

 

Hell, I waited a year and a half to two years before I bought my first PS2, and it was worth the wait, aside from it crapping out on me after a year of moderate play.