Ripper 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2005 Either Larry Johnson or Scottie Pippen. Kemp might have been the most publicized, but I think that Larry Johnson had about 10 kids and Scottie wasn't far behind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2005 I know LJ had 5 kids at the time SI did that big article on athletes being illegitimate fathers. Who knows what number he is up to now? IIRC, Calvin Murphy has them all trumped with 14 kids in tow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt Angle Mark 0 Report post Posted August 13, 2005 As expected Rahim signs with the Kings ----------------------------------------------- The Clippers have traded Marko Jaric and Lionel Chalmers to the Wolves for Sam Cassell and a 1st round pick http://www.nba.com/clippers/index.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted August 13, 2005 http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/3882560 Charley Rosen is a fucking idiot. Charley Rosen, former CBA coach All that needs to be said, really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted August 13, 2005 Aaron McKie is the latest amnesty victim. Link~ The Sixers also signed Steven Hunter. The more mind-boggling stat with Calvin Murphy is that his 14 kids come from nine different women. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted August 13, 2005 So who has the greatest accomplishment then? Wilt or Calvin Murphy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted August 13, 2005 Finley is looking for a championship. He is getting older and wants a ring. I don't think the Bulls stand a chance, and I don't think Denver does for that matter. I think it will be between the Suns and the Heat. There's also been talk of Detroit pursuing him also, as they are on the lookout for a good scoring SF/SG guy (i'm partial to jalen rose for that slot myself but it now looks like he wont be an amnesty victim). Only thing is, Finley wouldn't be a starter with Detroit, but its still a very good shot at the title, as are the Heat, and the Suns (a bit less so but close enough). on a different note, boy am I glad the Nets didnt land Abdur-Rahim. i hate the nets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted August 14, 2005 So who has the greatest accomplishment then? Wilt or Calvin Murphy? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Wilt, considering he was a great scorer on AND off the court. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted August 14, 2005 As a Kings fan, I'm skeptical of SAR joining the team. On one hand, he produces decent numbers. However, he holds the record for most years in the league without making it to the playoffs. I am not sure if that is just bad luck or if he has something to do with it. I know for sure that while he brings numbers, he doesn't bring winner intangibles to the table. Still, he can score facing up and with his back to the basket and I think he'll compliment Brad Miller effectively.(ideally speaking) So the starting five is... PG Mike Bibby SG Bonzi Wells SF Peja Stojakovic PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim C Brad Miller With the aquisition of SAR, I'm assuming Kenny Thomas gets bumped to 6th man or becomes trade bait. Losing Bobby Jackson sort of hurt because now the backcourt depth is low.(Kevin Martin and Francisco Garcia) We should definitely keep Brian Skinner as he is a perfect backup Center. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted August 14, 2005 If he keeps the Kings out of the playoffs, then it's all for the better I say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted August 14, 2005 The Clippers have traded Marko Jaric and Lionel Chalmers to the Wolves for Sam Cassell and a 1st round pick http://www.nba.com/clippers/index.html <{POST_SNAPBACK}> BWAHAHAHAHA. Nothing is better than watching that prick suffer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Young 0 Report post Posted August 14, 2005 The Clippers have traded Marko Jaric and Lionel Chalmers to the Wolves for Sam Cassell and a 1st round pick http://www.nba.com/clippers/index.html <{POST_SNAPBACK}> God damn. I know Cassell wasn't happy in Minnesota, but that was a shitty move. Seems like every time the T'Wolves start looking really good, they fall apart. Now they've gone from 1 seed to missing the playoffs, and followed that up by signing guys like Mark fucking Madsen to 5 year deals and traded Sam Cassell for a guy who only averaged 8 PPG playing for the fucking Clippers. Well, at least it will add some interest to the Clippers/T'Wolves game I hope to attend at Staples this upcoming season... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rendclaw 0 Report post Posted August 15, 2005 It was time for Cassell to go. Both him and Spree need to go, because that lineup was not going to work anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt Angle Mark 0 Report post Posted August 15, 2005 As a Clipper fan I'm glad to get Sam Cassell, he is the type of player the team needed. His clutch play is perfect for a team that lost 16 games by 3 points or less last season. Hell if he refuses to show up it's stil a good deal as it eliminates one of the three players that have almost made me throw my control through the television screen the past two years(Bibby and Ricky Davis are the other two), these guys have just destroyed the Clips in the fourth quarter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt Angle Mark 0 Report post Posted August 15, 2005 Latest Amnesty Clause releases Jerome Williams (Knicks) Ron Merver (Nets) Calvin Booth (Bucks) ----------------------------- Bulls match Raptors offer sheet for Chris Duhon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted August 15, 2005 No Jonathan Bender? C'mon, still 9 1/2 hours to go! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted August 15, 2005 The Pacers waive Reggie Miller. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt Angle Mark 0 Report post Posted August 15, 2005 ESPN is keeping track of the players and contracts that have been designated for amnesty here: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2134771 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted August 15, 2005 So not only will Bender make $15 million to play about 30 games over the next two years, he'll count against our luxury tax in the meantime! A savvy business mind, that Donnie Walsh has. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 Clarence Weatherspoon is Houston's amnesty waiver. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 Brian Grant to Phoenix Link~ Suns also waived Howard Eisley as amnesty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nogoodnick 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 The notion that SAR is cursed or lacks winning intangibles is the most asinine thing I've ever heard. The Grizz, Hawks, and Blazers were HORRIBLE situations for him to be in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuban Linx 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 Michael Jordan would have been hard-pressed to take those Grizzlies and Hawks teams SAR was stuck on to the playoffs, i wouldn't hold being surrounded with utter shit his whole career against Shareef. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 Well, I hope you guys are right. This is the best team SAR has been around, so if he can't at least get into the playoffs with them, then something is wrong. The Kings need a guy like him as well since the West is so uber-competitive. Everyone's predictions have the Kings not making the playoffs this year and expect team's like the Warriors or Phil-lead Lakers to take the Kings spot this year, but Petrie and Co. have made significant enough upgrades (SAR, Bonzi, drafting Garcia) that hopefully they build on the deep team we have, trade Peja for something good, and make a run in May. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 Michael Finley got waived at the last minute... it's on now! The NBA's Final Four teams are reuniting Tuesday for a different sort of elimination tournament. It's the Michael Finley Sweepstakes. League front-office sources tell ESPN.com that Miami, Detroit, San Antonio and Phoenix are the suitors with the best shot at landing Finley, who was waived late Monday by the Dallas Mavericks after Dallas' summer-long efforts to trade Finley to a less-threatening team proved unsuccessful. Intensely private throughout his eight-plus seasons in Dallas, Finley has been typically tight-lipped about his future, telling reporters at Steve Nash's recent charity game that he wasn't ready to discuss the prospect of free agency. Yet it's widely believed that the 32-year-old, after clearing waivers in 48 hours, will ultimately join one of the above four powerhouses to give himself a real shot at a championship ring … with the Denver Nuggets tops among the list of outsiders. As Finley prepares to grade the field and commence serious negotiations, this is our breakdown of the two-time All-Star's options as the prize (some would say only) catch on the amnesty market: Miami The Heat will be tough to resist, with Shaquille O'Neal as lead recruiter and a $5 million mid-level exception waiting … and the bonus of a scouting report from Dwyane Wade, who shares Finley's agent (Henry Thomas). Miami's interest, meanwhile, is a no-brainer. Finley played for Stan Van Gundy at Wisconsin, ranks as a quality chemistry guy and would instantly become the Heat's most dependable long-ball threat (given Damon Jones' likely departure). Yet it remains to be seen whether Finley wants to join a club that just added Antoine Walker and James Posey, with the room to start only one of the three. Finley and Walker are Chicago pals, but he also saw first-hand in Dallas that meshing can be tough with 'Toine as a third or fourth fiddle. It wouldn't be surprising at all to see Finley wind up here, but it's not the slam dunk some league insiders are suggesting. Detroit Pistons president Joe Dumars, eager to do some free-agent shopping after the interminable Larry Brown saga, has been quietly waiting for his swing at Finley. It doesn't hurt Dumars' chances that the Pistons have their entire $5 million mid-level exception to offer Finley for next season -- nearly twice as rich as what the Spurs can pitch -- as well as the promise of healthy minutes with a proven championship crew. Detroit, remember, generally relied on only seven guys when it mattered: Antonio McDyess, Lindsay Hunter and its trusty starting five. Finley would fortify the bench for new coach Flip Saunders and serve as an offensive-minded complement to the defense-first Tayshaun Prince. The fit seems even more feasible now that Finley, in trademark Pistons style, can even claim that he has something to prove as the discarded face of the Mavs. San Antonio The Spurs can't match the money Miami and Detroit can offer, but the champs will make a strong presentation beyond the close proximity to Finley's adopted home in Big D. San Antonio has lacked a consistent scorer off the bench since Manu Ginobili became a starter and is always looking for more perimeter shooting. Finley could fill both of those voids and presumably make a smooth transition to the Spurs' all-for-one locker room, given his first-class reputation. Although Finley's scoring average has indeed dipped for six successive seasons, that overlooks his 41 percent accuracy from 3-point range over the past two seasons … without the benefit of the open looks Tim Duncan and Ginobili generate. The Mavs were trying so hard to deal Finley in part to keep him away from the Spurs, knowing the champs are a real threat to make a switch to South Texas happen. Phoenix The Suns are sunk if money is the tiebreaker, with only a veteran minimum of $1.1 million to offer Finley for next season. And money could be a key factor, since Finley will be forced to collect the remaining $51-plus million on his Mavs contract in annual installments of less than $5 million because of a considerable "spread" provision in that contract. Phoenix, though, has an even better recruiter than Shaq; Nash and Finley remain so close that Finley traveled to Toronto for his buddy's charity game even though June ankle surgery prevented him from actually playing. Don't forget, furthermore, that Phoenix drafted Finley in 1995, and he remains quite popular. A return to the desert, then, holds appeal on several levels, which should explain why this is the other West rival Dallas had hoped to neutralize with a trade. The Mavs know Finley would relish the challenge of filling the Joe Johnson void. Denver The list of interested teams stretches well beyond five, but it's believed Finley won't consider anyone farther away from title contention than the Nuggets. Although his hometown Bulls will try to defy that belief -- as will Minnesota, which flirted with a three-team Finley trade last week -- Denver figures to tempt Finley more with its promising talent mix and a roster architect (Kiki Vandeweghe) who once worked in Dallas. Vandeweghe is also pursuing another Mavs alumnus (Nick Van Exel) to give his bench a boost, but Finley is Denver's top priority. The Nuggets, like Detroit and Miami, can offer a full $5 million next season … but also a rare guaranteed starting spot. And Finley, remember, is one of the few players (maybe the only one) who came away with any plaudits from George Karl's ill-fated Team USA at the 2002 World Championships in Indianapolis. Marc Stein is the senior NBA writer for ESPN.com. To e-mail him, click here. Also, click here to send a question for possible use on ESPNEWS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted August 16, 2005 The Pacers waive Reggie Miller. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Now who thought we'd ever hear THAT? Oh, and Finley would make a PERFECT fit for the Suns. He provides the veteran presence they don't have, him and Brian Grant (sort of). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2005 Reggie's been hired by TNT. Link~ I vaguely remember him being an announcer for the WNBA when it first started. He'll actually be working part-time both in the studio and calling games, probably mostly calling games though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2005 Reggie should replace Magic Johnson in the studio, since Magic never shows up anyway. That gives you Ernie, Kenny, Reggie, and Charles, a strong lineup that blows ESPN's studio crew of Stephen A., a white guy, and two other black guys outta the water. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2005 The thing I've noticed about ESPN lately, particularly ESPNNEWS, is that they seem to go out and attempt to find the whitest black guys they can find, and make them act as if they hired them STRAIGHT OUT THE 'HOOD, YO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2005 Yeah. John Saunders is from Canada, for crying out loud. Once these ESPNews guys are fully "straight from the hood," can we have them gun down Mario Lopez so that ESPN Hollywood is off TV? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
