EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2005 The funny thing is that the local moron on talk-radio has declared that since the Red Sox try so hard to be the Yankees that they'll have to "1-up" the Yanks by building a newer, better Fenway Park. The question is...why? People don't want a new Fenway, they just wanted additions made to the old one. Eventually, they're going to have a build a stadium, but not to compete with the Yanks over who has the biggest armrests, etc. That said, as much as I don't like the Yanks, Georgie is funding this with his money, without raising holy hell with the taxpayers and whatnot and that I like. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I wish teams would start feuding over who has the biggest armrests. The new Fenway ownership has figured out that the park adds value to the franchise, and from what I hear from fans who attend, the park has improved dramatically over the last ten years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prophet of Mike Zagurski 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2005 Yankee Stadium at Red Sox Plaza... Now I understand the history of Yankees Stadium but normally how long do venues stay up? 30-40 years... If there is a new stadium, then new history can be created there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2005 Now I understand the history of Yankees Stadium but normally how long do venues stay up? 30-40 years... If there is a new stadium, then new history can be created there. Yeah, but it's just not the same. The venues that lasted 30-40 years were cookie cutters that nobody would miss anyway. Yankee Stadium is inextricably tied to the rest of the team's illustrious history. If they build a new Yankee Stadium, they become just another team. Just imagine if they played under a retractable roof. Anyway, it just bothers me that the three worst parks in the majors don't seem to be going anywhere any time soon, but one of the best and most historic is going to face the wrecking ball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2005 Not quite sure why you think Rogers Centre is one of the worst parks in the majors (have you ever been there?), but even so, it's only 15 years old and cost over $500 million to build. It's not going anywhere for a LONG time. It's perfectly adequate, anyway, the only reason it looks 'bad' now is because Camden Yards came along a few years later and made everything that was built in the past 30 years (for the most part) look bad. I can see people not liking the astroturf, but that's gone now and hopefully they'll be some more upgrades in the future now that Rogers owns it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2005 Here are some pictures: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted June 17, 2005 I guess the SkyDome is okay, but I don't like the FieldTurf nor the fact that it looks like a giant concrete bunker. I saw some old Blue Jays games on Classic from Exhibition Stadium, and that place looked pretty neat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{''({o..o})''} 0 Report post Posted June 17, 2005 I won't believe that a replacement for the big inflatable toliet will happen until it's built. It's in the news every other month like clockwork but nothing ever happens because of Pohlad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted June 17, 2005 Here's the problem right now with Fenway Park. The stadium is fixed up, and it gets bigger and bigger with more people. The streets around that part of Boston...well, they stay the same. It's fucking cluttered as hell, but that's a whole part of the experience. Since the Sox finally won the Series, I do want to make it to Yankee Stadium, just once. I'll have to plan on doing it the next three-four years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted June 17, 2005 There's nothing wrong with the cookie cutter stadiums really. Sure, the designs are not as nice, but there was no reason teams could not play there another 20, 30 or even 40 years. Look at Busch Stadium. That stadium is perfectly fine, yet they are getting a new one. It is all about adding luxury suites and profits, and little to do with the quality of the stadium. Yankee Stadium is not getting replaced because it is old, it is getting replaced so the Yankees can triple the available luxury suites. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted June 17, 2005 Yankee Stadium at Red Sox Plaza... Now I understand the history of Yankees Stadium but normally how long do venues stay up? 30-40 years... If there is a new stadium, then new history can be created there. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The really historical part of Yankee Stadium went out the window when they remodeled in the 70s ... in my eyes, their stadium is really only 30 years old. What are the odds the jackasses in NYC call this new stadium "the house that Jeter built"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerangedHermit 0 Report post Posted June 17, 2005 What are the odds the jackasses in NYC call this new stadium "the house that Jeter built"? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Actually, I heard a better name: The House that Boss Built. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fishyswa Report post Posted June 17, 2005 I'm pretty sure its gonna be "The House that thousands of pooly paid mexican day laborers built". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mosaicv2 Report post Posted June 17, 2005 "The House that the fans that don't want A-Rod in built" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted June 17, 2005 There's nothing wrong with the cookie cutter stadiums really. Sure, the designs are not as nice, but there was no reason teams could not play there another 20, 30 or even 40 years. Look at Busch Stadium. That stadium is perfectly fine, yet they are getting a new one. It is all about adding luxury suites and profits, and little to do with the quality of the stadium. Yankee Stadium is not getting replaced because it is old, it is getting replaced so the Yankees can triple the available luxury suites. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But I would think that also, since those were built as multi-purpose stadiums, that a park configured specifically for baseball would provide much better sight lines. As for Busch Stadium, that one is the most acceptable of the cookie cutters, they did a great job fixing it up and all, but the new Busch looks like it could be even better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted June 17, 2005 There's nothing wrong with the cookie cutter stadiums really. Sure, the designs are not as nice, but there was no reason teams could not play there another 20, 30 or even 40 years. Look at Busch Stadium. That stadium is perfectly fine, yet they are getting a new one. It is all about adding luxury suites and profits, and little to do with the quality of the stadium. Yankee Stadium is not getting replaced because it is old, it is getting replaced so the Yankees can triple the available luxury suites. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But I would think that also, since those were built as multi-purpose stadiums, that a park configured specifically for baseball would provide much better sight lines. As for Busch Stadium, that one is the most acceptable of the cookie cutters, they did a great job fixing it up and all, but the new Busch looks like it could be even better. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's true. There are definate improvements with the new parks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe 0 Report post Posted June 18, 2005 "The House that the fans that don't want A-Rod in built" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I like the sound of that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted June 20, 2005 YESNetwork writer Steven Goldman writes a very good appraisal of the new ballpark... It's about time the Yankees got a new stadium. Yankee Stadium is a fine, venerable ballpark, and a great place to soak in history. Unfortunately, it is antiquated. Off the field it is a drab, dark, joyless, crowded, inefficient facility, incapable of accommodating the throngs that come out to see the team. Crowd management was clearly an afterthought in the Stadium's design; trying to exit the park after a ballgame quickly disperses happy memories of the ballgame and replaces them with bleats and moos as human beings transform into cattle. Even a ballpark as derided as Olympic Stadium, late the home of the Montreal Expos, had wider concourses, more bathrooms, better accessibility to mass transit and so on, even if it wasn't called upon to utilize them very often. Olympic Stadium was built around the same time as Yankee Stadium's 1974-1975 remodeling, but that was the nature of New York City at the time — just about everything about the city was either compromised or ill-considered. The decision to recreate the old Stadium with the new is more questionable. The glory of Yankee Stadium comes from the atmosphere on the field, not the aesthetics of the design. Indeed, the original 1921 design for the Stadium was far more ambitious. What was left behind, even after the remodeling, was a hulking, battleship gray behemoth with little cheer about it, little flair. Rather than being welcoming, it's industrial, perhaps even prison-like. Additionally, the team and the architects repeat the mistake of the new Soldier Field in Chicago via the shotgun wedding of new stadium and old exterior. The bowl of the Stadium will nest within exteriors that replicate the look of the existing ballpark. The efforts to which the team and the architects have gone to honor the past are commendable. Still, there is a fundamental misapprehension here, which is that an object recreated is not that object, merely a pale shadow. The New Yankee Stadium can look like the House that Ruth Built, but it won't be the House that Ruth Built — just the Disneyland version. By invoking a comparison to history, it is diminished by that history. Better to let Ruth have his House and let the Yankees of 2009 invest a new building with their own history. These cavils aside, yesterday was a great day for the team and its fans. The Yankees will finally be exhibited in the kind of facility they deserve. http://www.yesnetwork.com/yankees/pinstripedblog.asp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooting Star 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2005 Normally I'd be against leaving such a historic ball field like Yankee Stadium for a new one but where I live we have the Quisqueya Stadium that has seen Alex Rodriguez, Pedro Martinez , Sammy Sosa , Albert Pujols Miguel tejada and many more start their carrers in the condition that it is after only 60 years I can't imagine how the Yankee Stadium is doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2005 A-Rod started his career outside the US, despite being born in the US and living in the US his entire life? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooting Star 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2005 He played for los Leonel del Escogido when he was 16 and he didn't live his whole life in U.S.A he was born in Washington Heights them came back to Santo Domingo then went to NY when he was 10 and came back at 14. He was playing here long before U.S.A. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooting Star 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2005 He used to work as a delivery boy when he was younger here and whenever he comes to the country he hangs out with his former bosses and buys them tons of beer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2005 Hmmm...I was of the understanding he was born in the city and grew up in the Miami area. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooting Star 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2005 He kept going back and forth...but los Leones were his first team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites