"World" Title Confusion

[Only The Strong Survive 0]

I'm so confused right now.

 

So, basically, on Raw there is going to be the WWE Championship AND the World Heavyweight Championship, and on Smackdown! there's going to be a Smackdown! championship?

 

I'm assuming some of these belts are going to be retired or unified, but this doesn't make any sense. Why didn't they just strip Cena when he went to Raw? Did the rule that a drafted superstar loses his championship get thrown away?

 

Anybody who thinks they know what's up... discuss.

[notJames 0]

It's just another ploy for HHH to hold two belts, whether they're unified or not. It also gives him the opportunity to leach heat off the current crossover golden boy John Cena.

 

Sack full of headless monkeys > WW_ writers

[RedJed 0]

There never was a rule that a drafted person loses their title.

 

Don't worry, it'll make sense next week when one of the champions is brought back to Smackdown. It's all likely just a way to add a major main event program leading into the next SD ppv with the WWE or World Champ v. the interim Smackdown champ.

[Only The Strong Survive 0]

Okay... now I feel better heh.

[Guest Joe_G]

I imagine the announced Smackdown title match is just a red herring to make people think Batista isn't jumping. I'm betting Batista shows up next week and it turns into a #1 contender's match.

[razazteca 0]

HHH will unify the belts and declare himself the Undisputed Champion. At this point I think they should give HHH the IC and US belts since they don't mean anything anyway.

[Only The Strong Survive 0]

HHH will unify the belts and declare himself the Undisputed Champion.  At this point I think they should give HHH the IC and US belts since they don't mean anything anyway.

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Yeah... yeah they should.

[Guest Fook_Theta]

Actually I've thought for a long time giving HHH the US or Intercontinental championship belt would be really good for the business for the long term. Say what you want about HHH but he did make the win for Batista a bit more hot due to his long reign / attachment with the belt. Plus HHH as transitional gatekeeper for guys is his perfect long-term business contribution.

[Only The Strong Survive 0]

Actually I've thought for a long time giving HHH the US or Intercontinental championship belt would be really good for the business for the long term.  Say what you want about HHH but he did make the win for Batista a bit more hot due to his long reign / attachment with the belt.  Plus HHH as transitional gatekeeper for guys is his perfect long-term business contribution.

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As in it'll give the belts more prestige?

[razazteca 0]

It would be good for the business if HHH did win all 3 belts on Raw and declared himself the Triple Crown Champion of WWE.

[nl5xsk1 0]

If Christian or Jericho win the match vs Cena, they're going to Smackdown & a face is winning the 6 way next week in order to set up a unification match. If Batista wins (and Cena retains) then he's going to Smackdown and a heel is winning the 6 was, setting up a unification match.

 

If both Cena and Batista win, I have no idea what they're doing.

[RedJed 0]

I'm thinking it's just going to come down to Cena being drafted/traded back to Smackdown. Since he's been on Raw the past few weeks, he's already turned into a less of a star because of the nature of that show (with HHH as the usual focus and/or Batista). There really isnt much of a chance Christian or Jericho should win on Sunday. The Smackdown brand has been working hard and good on the Cena title run (I just watched the Judgment Day ppv on DVD last night and am still amazed how over he got from that match with JBL) and I think the move was just a way to get the Christian interaction out of the way, and of course have a Cena match on a Raw ppv be a potential buyrate draw on top of the other world title match.

[Guest Askewniverse]

I think it's just a case of WWE trying to make people think that a World Champion won't necessarily be coming to SmackDown. At this point, most people are expecting either Batista, HHH, Jericho, or Christian to come to SmackDown with a World Title. By announcing a new SmackDown title, they're probably just trying to make the draft seem less predictable.

 

As far as I'm concerned, this isn't much different from Linda McMahon announcing there would be a WWF Title tournament if Mick Foley won at WrestleMania 2000.

[Epic Reine 0]

What if HHH wins the HIAC? Is he going to Smackdown? I doubt it.

[CheesalaIsGood 0]

Yup, Batista loses on Sunday. Then off to Smackdown with him. Dammit, I want to be more into this but YAWN!

[Jericholic82 0]

I'm thinking it's just going to come down to Cena being drafted/traded back to Smackdown. Since he's been on Raw the past few weeks, he's already turned into a less of a star because of the nature of that show (with HHH as the usual focus and/or Batista). There really isnt much of a chance Christian or Jericho should win on Sunday. The Smackdown brand has been working hard and good on the Cena title run (I just watched the Judgment Day ppv on DVD last night and am still amazed how over he got from that match with JBL) and I think the move was just a way to get the Christian interaction out of the way, and of course have a Cena match on a Raw ppv be a potential buyrate draw on top of the other world title match.

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I don't agree. In fact I think the buildup for the HIAC has been less that I imagined. IMO Cena is being treated like a star and is the main focus of raw for the future (cmon he got to beat Hassan). I don't think WWE can or will bury Cena right noe. He is far too hot and can have mucho crossover appeal, which Vince loves.

 

If he does get buried, I wish the whole locker room would just walk out and give Vince the message.

[reign 0]

The realist in me says that The WWE title is going back to SD! somehow as HHH wants "his" belt back(in reality)..I can't really see them bringing in THREE titles and calling one the SD! World Title even after the horrible booking that we've seen lately..but it still feels like Vince is up to something...he may be gambling on something big...but why does it seem that he's jobbing out SD! to UPN? What could happen the ressurgence of SD! because there's a lot of real talent(not so much the talkers) there...they'd be smart to make that SD! title decesion something like this..

1. Fire Teddy Long(kayfabe)

2. Replace him with Paul Heyman

3. Make that "new title" the ECW World Heavywieght championship...this would even make sense as now all of WWE's "real" titles(as in titles not created by SD! after the split) would all be on Raw and nobody from ECW could put their filthy hands on them...

[razazteca 0]

Nothing would be better than Jericho "Crossing the Line" and throwing the Spinning W belt in the garbage.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

As I've said in other threads, my take on this situation is this:

 

Batista beats Hunter at Vengeance

John Cena retains the WWE Title at Vengeance

Batista gets drafted to Smackdown

Hunter tells Vince he should beat Cena for the WWE belt, as he's just 'made' Batista, and he needs a big win to get his heat back

Hunter beats Cena at Summerslam

 

There may be a slight variance or two here and there, for example Hunter might hold of on winning the WWE Title for a PPV or two in order to keep the program going, and better bury Cena, but that is how I see things going.

[Guest Tjhe CyNick]

I agree with most of that, although I dont think they'll take the title off Cena that fast.

 

It seems like they are building up Bischoff vs Cena, and since they did that deal with Angle and Bisch, I think it'll be Angle-Cena for the next few months. I could also see them doing a 3 way with Angle, HHH and Cena, eventually spinning off to HHH-Cena one on one.

 

I think HHH will get another program with someone else. HBK is open, but surely they cant go back there can they?

 

I would like to see HHH and Benjamin work a real program.

 

Another thought I had was that Rey might be coming to SD, so I could see them doing Rey-HHH. Rey could lose without losing very much heat, and I think if HHH were to put over Rey in a match down the line, it would really solidify Rey as a main event level guy. This would be a perfect fued for HHH to get back heat. He could buly the much smaller Rey, and Rey is good at getting sympathy heat.

 

Obviously HHH will be back in the title hunt at some point, but I just got a feeling they're going to stick with Cena for a while yet, and I cant see HHH losing 5 or 6 straight title matches.

 

They could always pull the trigger on HHH-Flair at some point. Maybe HHH could go nuts if he loses again to Batista and then takes it out on Flair.

 

Although, they have been booking those Cena/Batista vs HHH/JBL matches for TV tapings, so maybe that tells you it'll be JBL vs Batista on SD over the summer and HHH-Cena on RAW. Although, I kinda think its just a case where they are using what they consider to be the 4 top guys in one match.

[Astro7x 0]

Triple H BACK in the title hunt? He is in the title hunt, and if Batista leaves with the title, he will go after whatever title is left and never be consiered out of the title picture

[Only The Strong Survive 0]

I don't think Triple H will be out of the title picture unless someone costs him a title match, like what happened between him, Benoit, and Eugene last year.

[zyn081 0]

This is had better have been announced on Thursday cause otherwise heads will roll.

[zyn081 0]

Thank god it wasnt a spoiler.

 

I'm thinking it's just going to come down to Cena being drafted/traded back to Smackdown.

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I was hoping for that too, but somebody here said that those drafted cant be re-drafted and come on, how could they explain Bischoff trading the WWE Champion, especially after the orgasm he gave himself before RAW the day Cena joined RAW.

 

I don't agree. In fact I think the buildup for the HIAC has been less that I imagined. IMO Cena is being treated like a star and is the main focus of raw for the future (cmon he got  to beat Hassan). I don't think WWE can or will bury Cena right noe. He is far too hot and can have mucho crossover appeal, which Vince loves.

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In less than 3 minutes may I add!

 

..but it still feels like Vince is up to something...he may be gambling on something big...but why does it seem that he's jobbing out SD! to UPN?

 

3. Make that "new title" the ECW World Heavywieght championship...this would even make sense as now all of WWE's "real" titles(as in titles not created by SD! after the split) would all be on Raw and nobody from ECW could put their filthy hands on them...

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VKM is massaging HHH's ego by making RAW even bigger!

 

The CW title existed b4 the draft split. I must admit though, I always wonder how come the WHC and The World TTT are on RAW and the US title and the CW title are on SD. Would have made more sense to have those on RAW, especially with Bischoff and RAW, ya know, being on Monday Nights and all.

 

It seems like they are building up Bischoff vs Cena, and since they did that deal with Angle and Bisch, I think it'll be Angle-Cena for the next few months.  I could also see them doing a 3 way with Angle, HHH and Cena, eventually spinning off to HHH-Cena one on one. 

 

I think HHH will get another program with someone else.  HBK is open, but surely they cant go back there can they? 

 

I would like to see HHH and Benjamin work a real program. 

 

Another thought I had was that Rey might be coming to SD, so I could see them doing Rey-HHH.  Rey could lose without losing very much heat, and I think if HHH were to put over Rey in a match down the line, it would really solidify Rey as a main event level guy.  This would be a perfect fued for HHH to get back heat.  He could buly the much smaller Rey, and Rey is good at getting sympathy heat. 

 

Obviously HHH will be back in the title hunt at some point, but I just got a feeling they're going to stick with Cena for a while yet, and I cant see HHH losing 5 or 6 straight title matches. 

 

They could always pull the trigger on HHH-Flair at some point.  Maybe HHH could go nuts if he loses again to Batista and then takes it out on Flair. 

 

Although, they have been booking those Cena/Batista vs HHH/JBL matches for TV tapings, so maybe that tells you it'll be JBL vs Batista on SD over the summer and HHH-Cena on RAW.  Although, I kinda think its just a case where they are using what they consider to be the 4 top guys in one match.

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I like Bischoff-Cena, especially since Long was pro-Cena. Havent we got Cena-Angle before? May I point out here that we have missed out on Cena-Eddie.

 

HBK and HHH should be kept apart, in different states if possible. As regards Benjamin yes, same for CCC. Cena will feature in at some point. You know they wouldnt be help themselves from not doing Flair-HHH. I think theres potential in Jericho-HHH and would love to see Kane kick HHHs ass. Please god dont bring Rey to RAW, we havent had the blow off with Eddie yet

 

Picks myself off the floor after laughing for 5 minutes. HHH doesnt put people over.

 

ive missed HHH/JBL? Would love to see the interactions between those two. I remember that somebodys avatar here was hillarious. A pic of VKM, HHH and JBL (both with the belts) and VKM said only 1 of them would be champion after WM and JBL was like :| im losing the belt. ROFL.

[Just John 0]

I think Batista wins, JBL wins the 6-pack challenge, then they can re-ignite the JBL/Batista feud over who's the real champion. Have Edge come over too, because you have to do something with his MITB shot.

 

Anyway you do it, it has to involve a REAL championship going back to SD. The "Smackdown" championship sounds second-rate considering Raw has the "World" and "WWE" titles, both of which sound much more important than a "Single Show" championship.

 

I also fear that the SD belt will be hideous, probably with a blue strap or something. I have a bad feeling it'll look like an Indy title.

[Slickster 0]

I'm assuming that we didn't see the title belt because it doesn't exist. It could just as easily have been a WWE Tag Team Title belt under that cloth.

[Guest JerichosHi-Lite]

I imagine the announced Smackdown title match is just a red herring to make people think Batista isn't jumping.  I'm betting Batista shows up next week and it turns into a #1 contender's match.

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That's what I'm starting to think, too. I mean, if you think about it, regardless if somebody's switching (probably Batista?), in terms of the storyline, Teddy Long would want a title ... and with a stupid name like "The SmackDown Title" I can't imagine it's sticking around for long.

[zyn081 0]

When was the last time we had a 6 Pack Challange? If its just an excuse to get a 6PC then im all for it. If its not, this blows big time.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

As I've said in other threads, my take on this situation is this:

 

Batista beats Hunter at Vengeance

John Cena retains the WWE Title at Vengeance

Batista gets drafted to Smackdown

Hunter tells Vince he should beat Cena for the WWE belt, as he's just 'made' Batista, and he needs a big win to get his heat back

Hunter beats Cena at Summerslam

 

There may be a slight variance or two here and there, for example Hunter might hold of on winning the WWE Title for a PPV or two in order to keep the program going, and better bury Cena, but that is how I see things going.

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You forgot the last part. He'll then bury Cena for 9 months before jobbing clean to him in the main event of Mania and then claim he gave Cena the torch, but that Cena fumbled it and he'll have to save the promotion by winning the title back in June.

[Guest Coffey]

All I know is that I've learned my lesson in the past to vote against Triple H winning a PPV match. There's no way I'm picking Batista to beat him three in a row.