WWE just cut a lot of guys

[RedJed 0]

God knows...

 

I really hope Vince will let them keep the name. I mean, if Paul. E had wanted to he could've stopped Vince from using the Dudley name but didn't so maybe Vince will return the favour them now?

 

Or maybe Paul London will beat Batista next week, as that's just as likely

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ECW never trademarked their wrestlers likenesses IIRC. So it was open game on the names when Taz, Dudleys, etc went to WWE. So Heyman had zero control on names, likenesses, etc when ECW guys went to WWE. Its possible, though, that because those guys had the name before WWE that they could still use it in other avenues. Who knows.

[RedJed 0]

Dawn Marie will NOT hook up in TNA with Simon Diamond, as they are on horrible terms since they're split-up.

 

O'Haire also has no interest in actual wrestling, and is more focused on his MMA career right now, so you won't see Jindrak/O'Haire anytime soon.

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I swear I read somewhere they actually are on good terms, her and her new bf and Kenney and his new gf hang out alot, etc. I might be wrong though. Regardless, she wont be in anything wrestling for a while anyway and its questionable if she would even bother at all after having a kid. She may just want to be a stay at home mother. Getting yourself knocked up when having a WWE job as a TV personality gives me that impression she could care less about the business anymore.

 

Give O'Haire time, his MMA career hasnt amounted to shit. If TNA gets a national deal, him and Jindrak would try to push coming into the company I would imagine.

[Guest nokia]

Tna should pick up:

 

* Rhyno

* Shannon Moore

* Jimmy Yang

* Billy Kidman

[King Cucaracha 0]

Is the name issue just a TNA thing? Billy Gunn's been using Billy Gunn on indy shows. I can't remember any other ex-ECW worker that had to change their name either.

[eirejmcmahon 0]

You'd probably get away with it performing for four men and a dog in some barn out in Hickville but as soon as you hit television or PPV....

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

RHYNO WAS FUCKING CUT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?! If he was and TNA doesn't sign him, they're RETARDED.

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Yeah, he broke a plant pot in a hotel. No, really. I don't think he would ever have amounted to anything in WWE, but he's certainly of use to someone.

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

He was involved in one of the best Sabu matches I've seen in years (and Sabu was fresh off of surgery and healing), and they CUT him. What the SHIT?!

 

If TNA doesn't pick him up, they're fucking retarded. Rhyno vs. Brown. Rhyno vs. Styles. Hell...Rhyno vs. ANYBODY would be brutal.

[Golgo 13 0]

Rhyno was released weeks before ONS, and was then brought back solely for the show.

[Guest Coffey]

Tna should pick up:

 

* Rhyno

* Shannon Moore

* Jimmy Yang

* Billy Kidman

 

If TNA doesn't pick up The Dudley Boys, they're retarded.

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Uh, O'Haire's MMA career has actually been pretty solid. I believe he's undefeated thus far. And he probably makes tons more between shootfights and Japan tours than he'd get with TNA.

 

Don't get me wrong, I love the guy, always have. But he's not going to hang up his MMA gloves to come back to team with Jindrak.

[RedJed 0]

I'm sure the money is lucrative and such, but if he's not a big name that isnt going to go anywhere, AND if TNA gets big, there will be a legitimate alternative to the WWE in terms of earning a real living by wrestling, and things may change with not just O'Haire's perception of it, but many others.

[Zack Malibu 0]

Fair enough. But if they were going to bring him in, or if he had wanted to, he could be there teaming with Palumbo, or could have been brought back during one of Piper's appearances for continuity's sake.

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I think Gary Goodridge KO'd Sean O'Haire, but I could be wrong.

[Magus 0]

He was involved in one of the best Sabu matches I've seen in years (and Sabu was fresh off of surgery and healing), and they CUT him. What the SHIT?!

 

If TNA doesn't pick him up, they're fucking retarded. Rhyno vs. Brown. Rhyno vs. Styles. Hell...Rhyno vs. ANYBODY would be brutal.

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I was just as amazed that the E couldn't use Rhyno to his fullest. But their loss is TNA's gain, as long as their alive enough to get him. As much as we talk about different guys that would be cool in TNA, Rhyno is one of the 3 or 4 who MUST be brought in now that they're free. This guy could be a fuckin' star for TNA, and personally, I'd kill to see Rhyno go at it with Raven.

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Rhyno, Matt Morgan, Charlie Haas - that'd be a pretty damn good stable to bring in. You could add Kidman or Moore as the high flyer of the group too.

 

Then add Dudleys vs AMW feud and this could really turn out well for TNA.

[Fro 0]

Well, now Cornette's gone, so TNA's booking team potentially got a *ton* better.

[Zack Malibu 0]

My God that would be something. Also, a good chunk of OVW talent do not have developmental deals, so there is always the chance of Cornette supporting their chances to go to TNA. Young talent that could work cheap, plus a slew of some of these established stars could equal good times ahead.

[Dangerous A 0]

The possibility of Cornette coming to help book TNA probrably depends on the involvement of the Jarretts (or lack thereof). I don't see Cornette working well with Jeff and Jerry, or even wanting to work with them. Cornette will probrably play it smart to see if the Jarretts end up leaving before making a move.

[Ripper 0]

Uh, O'Haire's MMA career has actually been pretty solid.  I believe he's undefeated thus far.  And he probably makes tons more between shootfights and Japan tours than he'd get with TNA.

 

Don't get me wrong, I love the guy, always have.  But he's not going to hang up his MMA gloves to come back to team with Jindrak.

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O'Haire did a good job of beating up on a couple of guys in MMA then he decided to go K1 because it paid more and got KO'd a few times in a row. In the first round. Everytime... eventually, I would think he would move on.

[Guest traveshamockery]

With Matt Hardy on his way in soon, and a host of other guys who will see their no compete clauses run up soon (Rhino to name one); it should be interesting to see how many new names are picked up before the new TV deal is in place.

 

As far as the recent releases are concerned...

 

* Joy Giovanni - I'm assuming that she's done with wrestling now.

 

* Kenzo Suzuki - He didn't exactly light the TNA world on fire in his match with Saturn a couple of years ago. I really wouldn't expect for him to get signed up.

 

* Matt Morgan - He has apparently expressed interest in speaking with TNA, so I wouldn't doubt it if he showed up eventually. I'm not too familiar with the guy, so I don't know what type of impact he could have on the company.

 

* Charlie Haas - I am guessing that Ring of Honor is probably in his future. I would like to see him in TNA, but I'm not sure if that will happen.

 

* Jackie Gayda - Simply put... I couldn't care less.

 

* Marty Jannetty - Part of me would like to see if he can still hang, but he is not needed overall.

 

* Dawn Marie - I immediately considered her as the new manager for Diamond and Trytan until being told that she and Diamond were no longer a couple.

 

* Mark Jindrak - He's okay. I didn't see much of his WWE work, but he was always considered the weak link of the Jindrak/O'Haire team in WCW.

 

* Maven - Although I have never been a fan of Maven, part of me would like to see what a TNA run would be like. Maybe he could run with a gimmick for which all of the other wrestlers hate him because he won his spot on a tv show while they have been busting their asses in the ring. Of course, it's probably much too late for that one now.

 

* Shannon Moore - With Matt on his way, Shannon won't be too far behind.

 

* James Yun (Akio) - I really wish that he would return to TNA, but I'm not counting on it.

 

* David Heath (Gangrel) - He didn't do much in his first TNA run. I like the guy, but he doesn't really bring anything to the table.

 

* Billy Kidman - Kidman is a shell of his former self, and I wouldn't doubt it if the wrestling career was over.

 

* Spike Dudley - Considering the comments on his website, I would be very interested in seeing Spike in TNA. He seems to want to prove his worth to the business, and a motivated worker is never a bad thing.

 

* Kevin Fertig - I've never seen him wrestle... no opinion.

 

* The Dudleys - TNA really needs to sign Buh Buh and D-Von. I know that a lot of people (including myself) were tired of them, but I would really like to see a Dudleys vs. AMW match. In general, I think that an entire league of new opponents could make things interesting for these guys as a team.

 

* Jim Cornette - Part of me really wants to see Cornette team up with TNA. Another part of me wants to see Paul E. in TNA. I don't think that they could work together, but they would surely be a hell of a force if they could.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

The possibility of Cornette coming to help book TNA probrably depends on the involvement of the Jarretts (or lack thereof). I don't see Cornette working well with Jeff and Jerry, or even wanting to work with them. Cornette will probrably play it smart to see if the Jarretts end up leaving before making a move.

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Cornette is friends with Jeff, and he has a great deal of respect for Jerry as well, so if he had any involvement with TNA, it would likely depend on the Jarrett's being there.

[RedJed 0]

Yeah, Jarretts are going to likely have a stong ally in Cornette to get back power within the company although I think Cornette is still smart enough to understand the reality of the situation. With that said, I have a strong feeling Cornette wont show up on TNA at this point - he knows it's a tense time right now. Could be easily as good as it could be bad though (depending on the whole Jarrett factor) if he was brought in to either book solo or with the team. Cornette could very well help out in ROH, Memphis, etc in general.

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

I'll be the first to say that a Dudleys/AMW feud would kick ass. I dislike AMW, and I've been bored with the Dudleys since WrestleMania X-7, but I'd love to see Chris Harris and James Storm get 3D'd and powerbombed through a table, and also love to see D-Von OVERSELL the Death Sentence.

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PART 1 OF 2

 

Well, WWE dumped another good batch of talent:

 

# Matt Morgan

# Charlie Haas

# Jackie Gayda

# Marty Jannetty

# Dawn Marie

 

TNA needs to fire Trytan immediately and give that roster slot to Matt Morgan.  The guy is a monster, works pretty solidly for a big man and is very good on the mic.  Charlie Haas is an awesome wrestler, ditto Jannetty.

 

They're also not renewing the Dudleys' contract.  They'd be money in TNA for a while.  According to Meltzer, their deal is up in a couple months (no 90-day release) so they could be in TNA very soon.

 

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Shit, that rocks. TNA need to get Morgan (good big guy and a great talker), Haas (great technical wrestler), Jannetty (I would personally team him up with Michael Shane as the New Rockers) and Marie (if there was a just of reforming The Impact Players).

 

On another note, its good to see that TNA isnt the dumbest promotion any more. I mean, WTF, firing 3 of those people is just dumb.

 

I'm not sure about Matt Morgan.  Isn't he the guy who was on TE and was doing the stuttering gimmick?  I also don't really care to see Janetty, either, but that's just my opinion.  I never saw any of his work since his return.

 

Shannon Moore: I like the idea of teaming him with Jeff Hardy, if Matt isn't signing with TNA, that is.  Jeff needs to be in a team, and Moore fits the mold well.

 

Jimmy Yang: Along with Moore, he'll probably work a lot of ROH, which is great since he can still work TNA.  A top contender for the X Title in the future, and I'm hoping to see James Gibson in TNA soon as well.

 

Charlie Haas: Very good, from what I've seen of him.  He could be awesome if allowed to go in TNA, but he might be more comfortable with a tag partner.  Jackie could be his valet.

 

Dudleyz: I'd like to see them up against TNA's tag teams in a few one-time dream matches, but nothing permanent.  I think that guy in Ohio is salivating to get Bubba and D-Von in his new promotion.

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Unfortunately, Morgan was misused when he was WWE TV. Janetty was a lot better than people expected when he returned. He could fill in a Douglas and Lynn type role.

 

The problem I have with Moore and Jeff is that Jeff would be the leader of the team.

 

I was say that its a given that Akios off to RoH

 

Haas needs a single push. Tag teaming is what killed him in the WWE.

 

I cant believe Im going to say this, but I wouldnt mind the Dudleyz in TNA.

 

This opens up a chance for Spike to be signed by TNA now, if they go with the Dudleys too, which I'm sure they will. The only question mark with all of this is if they can use the Dudley name(s) in another organization. If not, all 3 of these guys are going to be substanially less over by default.

 

Haas and Jackie will probably get some gig with TNA, mixing with X division stuff like Shane and Traci, etc.

 

Highly doubt there would be interest in Jannetty, although one week in WWE got him very over and back as a name of sorts.

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I agree about Spike. If they can use the Dudleyz then yes, if not, then no. Pretty pointless IMHO if they are not the Dudleyz.

 

Ok, fine, bring Jackie in too. But not to much of the inter-gender crap please.

 

I think that they should go for Jannetty 1st of all. He really impressed me when he came back and the crowd ate him up.

 

If they were to bring in the Dudleys my plan would be to finally turn AMW heel, and win the straps. Then have them successfully defend against whoever and then have the Dudleys run in and have Bubba cut a promo along the lines of "We've been ECW tag team champions! We've been WCW tag team champions! We've been WWE tag team champions! In fact the only belts we haven't held...." then have them both slowly turn to face an AMW member who's still in the ring, "are yours!". Then have them 3D AMW no.1.

 

Dudleys vs AMW is what they have to do surely, and there's no way they'll get the Dudleys to debut as heels, even if just for the 'holy shit it's the dudleys in tna!' factor.

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If the Dudleyz were to turn on TNA, then they would obviously pop with the crowd.

 

Dammit, stop it, your making me want to watch those damned Dudleyz.

 

God knows...

 

I really hope Vince will let them keep the name. I mean, if Paul. E had wanted to he could've stopped Vince from using the Dudley name but didn't so maybe Vince will return the favour them now?

 

Or maybe Paul London will beat Batista next week, as that's just as likely

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I cant see Vince doing that. I mean hell, look at poor Billy Gunn.

 

ECW never trademarked their wrestlers likenesses IIRC. So it was open game on the names when Taz, Dudleys, etc went to WWE. So Heyman had zero control on names, likenesses, etc when ECW guys went to WWE. Its possible, though, that because those guys had the name before WWE that they could still use it in other avenues. Who knows.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

Thats most likely the case. Depends if its TM and/or registered. But wait a minute, they did tweak their names. Became Tazz and Dudleyz.

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PART 2 OF 2

 

Dawn Marie will NOT hook up in TNA with Simon Diamond, as they are on horrible terms since they're split-up.

 

O'Haire also has no interest in actual wrestling, and is more focused on his MMA career right now, so you won't see Jindrak/O'Haire anytime soon.

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I swear I read somewhere they actually are on good terms, her and her new bf and Kenney and his new gf hang out alot, etc. I might be wrong though. Regardless, she wont be in anything wrestling for a while anyway and its questionable if she would even bother at all after having a kid. She may just want to be a stay at home mother. Getting yourself knocked up when having a WWE job as a TV personality gives me that impression she could care less about the business anymore.

 

Give O'Haire time, his MMA career hasnt amounted to shit. If TNA gets a national deal, him and Jindrak would try to push coming into the company I would imagine.

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Call me sick, but Id like to see Jindrak take off with the Reflection of Perfection gimmick. I wouldn’t mind Luger in his corner too.

 

Id personally prefer O’Haire and Palumbo. They were the best 2 out of the NBT.

 

Is the name issue just a TNA thing? Billy Gunn's been using Billy Gunn on indy shows. I can't remember any other ex-ECW worker that had to change their name either.

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They tended to tweak them as I said before. Like Rhyno and Rhino. Vince shafted Billy dammit.

 

Fair enough.  But if they were going to bring him in, or if he had wanted to, he could be there teaming with Palumbo, or could have been brought back during one of Piper's appearances for continuity's sake.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

Yes and Yes. Even better, take up the hot devils advocate angle.

 

Well, now Cornette's gone, so TNA's booking team potentially got a *ton* better.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

What???????? When did Cornette leave? I know he had some problems but this is news to me. That would be so hot having him in TNA.

 

* Kenzo Suzuki - He didn't exactly light the TNA world on fire in his match with Saturn a couple of years ago. I really wouldn't expect for him to get signed up.

 

    * Charlie Haas - I am guessing that Ring of Honor is probably in his future. I would like to see him in TNA, but I'm not sure if that will happen.

 

    * Marty Jannetty - Part of me would like to see if he can still hang, but he is not needed overall.

 

    * Maven - Although I have never been a fan of Maven, part of me would like to see what a TNA run would be like. Maybe he could run with a gimmick for which all of the other wrestlers hate him because he won his spot on a tv show while they have been busting their asses in the ring. Of course, it's probably much too late for that one now.

 

    * Spike Dudley - Considering the comments on his website, I would be very interested in seeing Spike in TNA. He seems to want to prove his worth to the business, and a motivated worker is never a bad thing.

 

    * The Dudleys - TNA really needs to sign Buh Buh and D-Von. I know that a lot of people (including myself) were tired of them, but I would really like to see a Dudleys vs. AMW match. In general, I think that an entire league of new opponents could make things interesting for these guys as a team.

 

    * Jim Cornette - Part of me really wants to see Cornette team up with TNA. Another part of me wants to see Paul E. in TNA. I don't think that they could work together, but they would surely be a hell of a force if they could.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

I can actually see them going for Kenzo but I hope not.

 

Id say your right about Haas and RoH.

 

I think Marty is needed. He can still work and could be a good teacher and role model to the younger wrestlers.

 

They should have done that ages ago in the WWE with Maven.

 

Possibly so regarding Spike, but I can only see him coming in to interfere on Bubbas and D-Vons behalf. Come to think about it. They could have Spike turn up and everybody picks on him but he keeps at it. One time hes getting the shit beat out of him and Bubba and D-Von return to make the save. I prefer the we want to be NWA champs too though.

 

I think that the Dudleyz got real stale, hence my immense dislike for them. After they reunited, they were just bland. Not even Heyman could help them.

 

If I were Vince, and Heyman and Cornette got the book, Id be very worried. Do the latter get along?

[Guest traveshamockery]

I think Marty is needed. He can still work and could be a good teacher and role model to the younger wrestlers.

 

...

 

If I were Vince, and Heyman and Cornette got the book, Id be very worried. Do the latter get along?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

Part of me really believes that Marty could be a big star if he could just get his life together. I'm not sure if there are many companies that are willing to give him a chance right now, but his recent appearances on WWE tv might help out.

 

As far as Heyman and Cornette are concerned, I think that they just have two very different styles. They could be deadly together, but we'll most likely never find out. I am honestly not sure if Vince, Paul E., or Cornette have ever gotten along with each other in any combination.