Vampiro69 0 Report post Posted July 16, 2005 The Daily Show is great, but I don't think it is up to the same level it was a few years ago. Although, I still think it is better then 90% of what is on TV now. Although Stephen Colbert's "This week in God" is one of the best segements on the show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2005 "It was one of the drunken udnerage boys at my sleepover." I quit conservatism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2005 All-political comic strips tend to always be awful. Doonesbury gets really painful too. At least Boondocks changes it up once in a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2005 There's a collection of Indecision 2004 Daily Show coverage I got the other day. The first and second discs are their coverage of the conventions, and the third disc has the first debate and election night episodes, as well as a collection of segments on various parts of the campaign season from Edwards' running for President being announced on The Daily Show itself onward. Great collection, and they hammer everyone more than equally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2005 I get it...in the June 26th strip, Mallard is basically debunking conventional liberal ideas, such as that women are oppressed in this country, and that the UN is a good organization. It's not particularly funny, but it makes a point, I guess. It's nothing I'm pining to have included in our weekly Sunday comics here, though. For the record, I don't think Doonesbury is very funny either, though occasionally it's amusing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2005 No, Doonesbury isn't funny. Its too self-referential to be funny. They're always making jokes about stuff that happened several days early in the strip, or continuing a joke from a previous strip. You can't just sit down and read it and understand what's going on, like you can with Boondocks. The Boondocks creator at least has the good sense to let one of the characters do a quick recap of what the situation is if its a multi-day joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vampiro69 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2005 I get it...in the June 26th strip, Mallard is basically debunking conventional liberal ideas, such as that women are oppressed in this country, and that the UN is a good organization. It's not particularly funny, but it makes a point, I guess. For the record, I don't think Doonesbury is very funny either, though occasionally it's amusing. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree with you on the point of what Mallard is. Basically it makes fun of the idea of what is commonly believed and supported by democrats even though facts show that their ideas are outdated. However, Doonesbury does the same thing but on a more sneaky matter. It just happens that I am more conservative and like Mallard more. Nothing more, nothing less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2005 Doonesbury used to, but now it seems like 7/8 of the strips are directly or indirectly about the Bush admin. I checked the official side to see some of the recent strips--there were literally 3 in a row directed at the Cheney "last throes" blurb. Meanwhile, there's a scrolling banner above with anti-Bush admin quotes. Trudeau only needs to squeeze 7 jokes out of a week, and has trouble doing that. Daily Show has 22 minutes to fill 5 times a week, and seems to have little trouble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RepoMan 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2005 I get it...in the June 26th strip, Mallard is basically debunking conventional liberal ideas, such as that women are oppressed in this country, and that the UN is a good organization. It's not particularly funny, but it makes a point, I guess. It's nothing I'm pining to have included in our weekly Sunday comics here, though. For the record, I don't think Doonesbury is very funny either, though occasionally it's amusing. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Methinks the writer would get more respect if he wrote editorials and didn't use a cartoon duck that isn't funny. And I'm sick of conservatives who act like they're underdogs when they control all three branches of goverment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2005 Also, as unfunny as Mallard might be, it is only a fraction as unfunny as Prickly City. AND you actually get the feeling that the person drawing Mallard actually tries to make it look good (even if his Jon Stewart looks like John Kerry,) whereas P.C. looks like a child made doodles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CheesalaIsGood 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2005 I get it...in the June 26th strip, Mallard is basically debunking conventional liberal ideas, such as that women are oppressed in this country, and that the UN is a good organization. It's not particularly funny, but it makes a point, I guess. It's nothing I'm pining to have included in our weekly Sunday comics here, though. For the record, I don't think Doonesbury is very funny either, though occasionally it's amusing. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Methinks the writer would get more respect if he wrote editorials and didn't use a cartoon duck that isn't funny. And I'm sick of conservatives who act like they're underdogs when they control all three branches of goverment. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I couldn't agree more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2005 I agree with you on the point of what Mallard is. Basically it makes fun of the idea of what is commonly believed and supported by democrats even though facts show that their ideas are outdated. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, the presentation of selective facts by a cartoon duck really shows how outdated the Democratic Party's ideas are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2005 Marmaduke. Now there's a fucking political cartoon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2005 No, Doonesbury isn't funny. Its too self-referential to be funny. They're always making jokes about stuff that happened several days early in the strip, or continuing a joke from a previous strip. You can't just sit down and read it and understand what's going on, like you can with Boondocks. The Boondocks creator at least has the good sense to let one of the characters do a quick recap of what the situation is if its a multi-day joke. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> While I agree Boondocks is a better strip than Doonesbury, I can't stand Boondocks creator, Aaron McGruder. He comes on Maher's HBO show as a regular panelist and while I don't mind him voicing his political views, he annoys me to no end when no one calls him on his reverse racism. When he talks about things outside race, I don't mind him, but as soon as race gets started as a topic, I tune out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Floyd 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2005 Not political, but clearly, I can't be the only person who remembers "Dysfunctional Family Circus" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2005 Doonesbury used to be a lot better, and yes, it's still a million times funnier than MF. I don't know how long MF has been running, but I doubt it's been going for 35 years. Also, Doonesbury's had a narrative, something that most political cartoons neglect. (most cartoons period, actually) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2005 Not political, but clearly, I can't be the only person who remembers "Dysfunctional Family Circus" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm just trying to remember who did it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justice 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2005 Doonesbury used to be a lot better, and yes, it's still a million times funnier than MF. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'd like to paraphase one of my favorite quotes and say 'A million times better' still doesn't mean good. I don't know how long MF has been running, but I doubt it's been going for 35 years. Mallard, I would think, is fairly old. And even if it's been around forever, it still doesn't mean it's good or even decent in any sense of the word. Also, Doonesbury's had a narrative, something that most political cartoons neglect. (most cartoons period, actually) Bah. Again, not a show of quality (Far Side, anyone?). Let's all agree that both of them suck ass, along with most political cartoons strips. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2005 Buncha political junkies arguing what's funny and what isn't. Man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2005 Buncha political junkies arguing what's funny and what isn't. Man. Zing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2005 While I agree Boondocks is a better strip than Doonesbury, I can't stand Boondocks creator, Aaron McGruder. He comes on Maher's HBO show as a regular panelist and while I don't mind him voicing his political views, he annoys me to no end when no one calls him on his reverse racism. But he spends a lot of time making fun of the "bling culture" in the African American community. Hell, that's practically the sole reason for the Riley character. He calls black people on shit as much as he does white people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2005 While I agree Boondocks is a better strip than Doonesbury, I can't stand Boondocks creator, Aaron McGruder. He comes on Maher's HBO show as a regular panelist and while I don't mind him voicing his political views, he annoys me to no end when no one calls him on his reverse racism. But he spends a lot of time making fun of the "bling culture" in the African American community. Hell, that's practically the sole reason for the Riley character. He calls black people on shit as much as he does white people. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think the fact that most of the more ironic stuff that Boondocks portrays is lost on most people. It'll look like he's making fun of white people, but he's really making fun of black people for making fun of white people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted July 21, 2005 I make fun of black people for making fun of black people that maek fun of white people that make fun of Asian people trying to make fun of Mexican people who make fun of black people who make fun of Aboriginals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toshiaki Koala 0 Report post Posted July 21, 2005 Needless to say, the fake Mallard cartoon in Stewart's book is MUCH funnier than the real ones. Which doesn't mean it's particularly hilarious - I looked through the Fillmore archives, and it's just awful. Down there with that Cox and Forkum crap, to be sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2005 I make fun of black people for making fun of black people that maek fun of white people that make fun of Asian people trying to make fun of Mexican people who make fun of black people who make fun of Aboriginals. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's the spirit! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vampiro69 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2005 Well, I thought I remember seeing a Rolling Stone article that interviewed the Doonesbury creator and I seem to remember that he went to college with Bush and didn't get along with him while in school. I may be wrong in this article but it has been awhile since I read it. I still read Mallard everyday in the paper, even though it isn't laugh out loud "Bwahaha" but it is ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites