Planned Summerslam Card

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

WWE Title

John Cena © vs Chris Jericho

Jericho has even less chance here then he had at Vengeance. Match could be good or could be awful. Not interested in this at all.

 

World Title

Batista © vs Hassan

On the bright side this is more up in the air than the WWE Title match and the feud would be better, but I still don't give Hassan much of a shot and the match will definitely be worse. Why couldn't they do Batista/Taker instead?

 

HBK vs Hulk Hogan

Amazingly, neither guy should be jobbing. Shawn should be being prepped for a World Title feud with Cena and Hogan shouldn't be coming back just to lose. Since Shawn probably will get that World Title feud stolen by HHH, I'll go with Hogan winning, although Shawn winning would be the lesser of two evils. Match will be about as good as Hogan/Angle, which is to say not good at all.

 

Casket Match

Undertaker vs Randy Orton

Orton gets his job back. Could be one of the better matches on the card and certainly better than those already mentioned, depending on how much interference Orton needs. One star comes off for each guy who runs in (unless it is Bob Orton), so lets hope this isn't like Rumble 94.

 

Edge and Snitsky vs Kane and Matt Hardy

Now that Matt is back, they need to get them together in a singles match asap. Dump Kane & Snitsky and I have no problems with it. If they are here, then they've blown the feud.

 

US Title

Chris Benoit © vs JBL

Easily the best match on the show and one of the few matches left in WWE that I am truly interested in. If not for Brock coming back, this should be for the World Title.

 

IC Title Street Fight

Carltio © vs Shelton Benjamin

They are wasting the Street Fight gimmick on this, when they could be using it for Eddy/Rey? Nobody in this company knows when gimmicks should be used or not anymore. Benjamin is the best wrestler on RAW, but nobody can drag a good match out of Carlito who is up there with Masters as one of the least talented workers on the roster.

 

Big Show vs Kurt Angle

Seen it. Show kicked his ass. Match sucked. No desire to see it again. Angle was the hottest he's been since January 2003 coming out of Wrestlemania and they've completely pissed it away.

 

The Final Match

Eddie Guerrero vs Rey Mysterio Jr.

I'm assuming Eddy wins and reveals the secret at GAB and this is Rey's revenge. This is the match that should be a Street Fight, not the garbage with Carlito. This is the only other realistic shot for MOTN.

[iggymcfly 0]

As soon as I saw that Hardy/Kane vs. Edge/Snitsky match listed, I knew this card was bullshit. I mean think about it, the whole storyline is basically that Kane's a goofy bastard who never really had anything to do with Lita and that Edge stole her away from Matt.

 

So if Matt's going to have a "real," "shoot," match with Edge, then what the fuck are the two most ridiculous characters on Raw going to be doing tagging in that match? What's going to happen is that we'll see Matt and Edge in either an unsanctioned street fight (right idea) or a "confrontation" like DDP and Taker had at KOR that one time (wrong idea).

[cabbageboy 0]

I can't believe anyone would defend Hassan main eventing the 2nd biggest show of the year. He's a lousy wrestler, he has a cheap heat heel gimmick, and if he actually beat Batista it would seriously destroy Batista's rep. I mean the guy beats HHH every time but can't beat friggin Mohammed Hassan?

 

By the way, if they do UT/Orton at SS there's no way in hell Orton is winning. He would have already cost UT the JBL match and also the #1 contender match....do you seriously think UT is going to job to him at that point?

 

I'm not sure why everyone is stoked for Benoit/JBL. Unless it's a gimmick brawl match JBL will still be lousy and given that SMDN main event when Benoit was drafted it's safe to say this won't be anything special. Why not do Benoit/Regal?

 

One problem is that neither title challenger has any credibility being on that level. Hassan I've mentioned, but what about Jericho? There doesn't seem like any way Jericho would win the title in that match, and there really is no justification for him getting a title shot (at least Hassan would win some lame #1 contender match). Seriously, what has Jericho done to deserve a shot? Who has he beaten? And instead of having Jericho go over a few guys on Raw to cement his #1 contender status, he's doing battle of the bands crap.

[haws bah gawd 0]

I didnt notice if this was mentioned, but why WOULDNT Vince put the title on Hassan? Just because he did a highly controversial terrorist angle with the Undertaker a couple weeks ago? Let's not forget WWE put the title on JBL just a few short weeks after he pulled his cheap-heat Nazi Bullshit in Germany. I wouldnt put anything past Vince and co.

[Dangerous A 0]

WWE Title

John Cena © vs Chris Jericho

This match will really test Jericho's abilities to still carry slugs. This is the match that should be a street fight or something that can include weapons to disguise the fact Cena isn't a good wrestler. Jericho's style does not mesh with Cena's and we could be in for a bad one or a pleasant surprise. If this is better than ***'s, than on the WWE curve, it's really ****.

 

 

World Title

Batista © vs Hassan

No way this is any good. Not sure if the buildup will be any good, but in the ring this will be horrible. Anything other than Batista winning will be a disaster because Hassan is not ready to carry a championship.

 

HBK vs Hulk Hogan

Battle for the aging...er...ages. The most intriguing part of this match will be to see how these 2 egomaniacs will be able to work out a finish where they come out looking good. Long term, I think HBK should win, but I see Hulk manipulating his way to a win here.

 

Casket Match

Undertaker vs Randy Orton

Their WM21 match was the surprise of the night. I never liked the casket match gimmick, so I don't think this will really go anywhere. Orton probrably wins because he needs it most and it isn't past Taker to lose a casket match, although it may take 40 or more people to do it.

 

Edge and Snitsky vs Kane and Matt Hardy

If this stays a tag, they are clueless. Why do Kane and Snitsky need to be there? Are we afraid of hurting their feelings unless they get a match? I thought that's what Heat was for. This needs to be Hardy v. Edge one on one in some kind of non-sanctioned street fight deal where they can kill each other around the building.

 

US Title

Chris Benoit © vs JBL

This should be good if JBL lets Benoit lead him by the hand. Benoit doesn't mind a match getting real physical and JBL likes to make it so. This should be a great, stiff brawling style match.

 

IC Title Street Fight

Carltio © vs Shelton Benjamin

I agree with a lot of the posters here in that the street fight gimmick doesn't fit for this match or either of these men. These 2 just don't click in the ring. Benjamin should be fighting to get into ME's and Carlito should fight, well, just about anyone else except Shelton. I hope they abandon this program and go with Angle v. Benjamin.

 

Big Show vs Kurt Angle

Pretty much what I wrote above. These guys should switch opponents. Show v. Carlito and Angle v. Benjamin. That alone makes the undercard here 100% more watchable than what they have penciled in. Plus, Angle and Benjamin can continue through to Unforgiven.

 

The Final Match

Eddie Guerrero vs Rey Mysterio Jr

I hope it really will be the final match. Their feud was fine until Creative decided to make their feud into "Passions". I shudder at what the secret will be. Perhaps they do 2 out of 3 traditional Lucha style match here? I'd love for the Mexicools to jump both men afterwards, forcing an unholy alliance against the new threat. It would help get the Mexicools over and we'd get excellent matches and match combos out of it. Plus there is a theme of "United we stand, divided we fall" that can play through where Eddie and Rey can't beat them alone because the Mexicools are a unit, but together, despite their latest tiff, they reluctantly join forces, possibly with London, to thwart the Mexicools.

[Vern Gagne 0]

I think the WWE is making the mistake of thinking the Hardy/Edge storyline can be a long term thing. With the blowoff being at SurSeries. They'll probably have Bischoff claim that a non-contracted WWE employee cannot wrestle, in a WWE sanctioned event unless he has a WWE wrestler as his tag team partner. Something stupid like that.

[spman 0]

I honestly just copied and pasted this list from another board which had it attributed to Meltzer and WON. It sounds plausible enough though, so I just assumed it to be correct. I don't see anything that wouldn't make sense being ont he card.

[algrim 0]

This can't be Meltzer's picks. Why would he put a street fight in the CCC/Shelton match knowing it wouldn't fit their style? If anything, the unsanctioned match between Edge and Matt Hardy will end up being a street fight. Hopefully, this match will be as good as the HHH/HBK match from 3 years ago.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

The conclusion to Benjmanin/Carlito is something with no Dq's or no Countouts - a street fight fits that. But then again, so does a steel cage and a bunch of other gimmicks.

[bob_barron 0]

I think they should put the belt on Hassan.

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Considering Hassan isn't a draw, putting the belt on him would be a horrible idea.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

WWE Title

John Cena © vs Chris Jericho

 

Why all the bitching? As long as Gonzo isn't in it, I'm happy.

 

World Title

Batista © vs Hassan

I would have rather seen Batista/Undertaker instead.

 

HBK vs Hulk Hogan

Could go either way. Although it would be nice if Michaels had the torch passed to him by Hogan.

 

Undertaker vs Randy Orton

This SHOULD be kept stipless. Its about time Orton gets his JOB back.

 

Edge and Snitsky vs Kane and Matt Hardy

Makes sense as I'm guessing they're going to save Hardy / Edge for Unforgiven.

 

US Title

Chris Benoit © vs JBL

Yes, I'm interested in seeing this although like somebody mentioned, this would have been much better as a world title match.

 

IC Title Street Fight

Carltio © vs Shelton Benjamin

I don't know about you guys, but if they're not going to give the title back to Shelton, I think its about time CCC faced somebody else.

 

Big Show vs Kurt Angle

Hell no, I don't want to see this shit again unless it means Angle finally getting his JOB back from Show .

 

The Final Match

Eddie Guerrero vs Rey Mysterio Jr.

Jesus Christ, just let Eddie win the blowoff and lets be done with this fucking horrible feud.

[snuffbox 0]

Meltzer thought the WMXX main was going to include a ladder stip...so these matches could change a bit in the near future.

[SuperJerk 0]

I think they should put the belt on Hassan.

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Hassan should not have the belt for the simple fact that he sucks so bad in the ring. They already have one champ stinking it up in the ring right now (Cena) and Batista is barely passable, so they really don't need to bring ME's to WCW-late 90's level by putting the belt on Hassan.

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[Guest nokia]

If this card is somewhat real than it's safe to say that at the Great American Bash that

 

* Hassan beats Taker (with help from Orton)

* Benoit wins the US title

 

I can live with that...

[Papacita 0]

On the Hardy/Edge stuff, while it'd be idiotic to just throw them into a tag match like that, I agree with those who say that it's a mistake to have them fight at SummerSlam. You can say that people will lose interest if they don't pull the trigger now, which is certainly possible, but at the same time, doing it at SummerSlam would take a lot of the lustre away from the program, as that's nowhere near enough time to build the kind of emotional response an angle as big as this should have. IMO, they shouldn't meet in the ring until Survivor Series at the earliest, and in the meantime they should keep the build in slow burn.

[SuperJerk 0]

If this card is somewhat real than it's safe to say that at the Great American Bash that

 

* Hassan beats Taker (with help from Orton)

* Benoit wins the US title

 

I can live with that...

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They could do Undertaker vs. Batista, have Taker put Batista over and make him a huge star...BUT NOOOOOOO!!! They're going to do Orton vs. Undertaker 2 and Muhammad Hassan vs. Batista instead.

[Vern Gagne 0]

HHH's really not going to be part of arguably th companies 2nd biggest ppv of the year. Seems hard to believe.

[spman 0]

HHH's really not going to be part of arguably th companies 2nd biggest ppv of the year. Seems hard to believe.

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Erm, why is that? Triple H is on hiatus for the Summer. The writers think he's a bit overexposed. Also he doesn't really want to share the spotlight with Hogan on RAW. He's spending more time learning more about the buisness end of the company from Vince.

[Vern Gagne 0]

Good points. It's just weird HHH without being injured or filming a movie would be gone for so long.

[RedJed 0]

On the Hardy/Edge stuff, while it'd be idiotic to just throw them into a tag match like that, I agree with those who say that it's a mistake to have them fight at SummerSlam. You can say that people will lose interest if they don't pull the trigger now, which is certainly possible, but at the same time, doing it at SummerSlam would take a lot of the lustre away from the program, as that's nowhere near enough time to build the kind of emotional response an angle as big as this should have. IMO, they shouldn't meet in the ring until Survivor Series at the earliest, and in the meantime they should keep the build in slow burn.

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This "feud" has been going on longer than just a few weeks in reality, thus I dont see the problem with setting it up as at least an initial match, be it even a match that ends up a huge mess of a double DQ at the end, to lead to future matches. If they hold off until freaking Survivor Series, I can almost guarantee by that time WWE will drop the ball and the interest will be all but lost. This feud has little legs as I think we will find out once the intial luster of the Matt Hardy run-ins from the crowd dies down.

 

In any regard, I think a hot brawl even leading to a DQ at SummerSlam will actually keep the feud hot, and then they could probably keep it going until Survivor Series.

[CBright7831 0]

You mean some of you are actually beginning to miss Triple H?

[Papacita 0]

On the Hardy/Edge stuff, while it'd be idiotic to just throw them into a tag match like that, I agree with those who say that it's a mistake to have them fight at SummerSlam. You can say that people will lose interest if they don't pull the trigger now, which is certainly possible, but at the same time, doing it at SummerSlam would take a lot of the lustre away from the program, as that's nowhere near enough time to build the kind of emotional response an angle as big as this should have. IMO, they shouldn't meet in the ring until Survivor Series at the earliest, and in the meantime they should keep the build in slow burn.

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This "feud" has been going on longer than just a few weeks in reality, thus I dont see the problem with setting it up as at least an initial match, be it even a match that ends up a huge mess of a double DQ at the end, to lead to future matches. If they hold off until freaking Survivor Series, I can almost guarantee by that time WWE will drop the ball and the interest will be all but lost. This feud has little legs as I think we will find out once the intial luster of the Matt Hardy run-ins from the crowd dies down.

 

In any regard, I think a hot brawl even leading to a DQ at SummerSlam will actually keep the feud hot, and then they could probably keep it going until Survivor Series.

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Yeah WWE probably would drop the ball, but I still think holding off on the match would be the most effective thing to do. Building to a SummerSlam match would more or less require Matt to be on TV every week for it really be successful, and the more he's on TV right now, the quicker his appeal is gonna run out. By holding out for a while and relying on strategically timed Hardy attacks as opposed to just sending him out there every show, you'd be better able to maintain that aura of realism that the feud has and at the same time you'd be better able to get the angle over with people who may not be familiar with the real situation. It'd also give them time build Edge up a little more if they wanted to--which again would increase the likelihood of this getting over. I just think they could get so much more out of this if they waited a bit.

[zyn081 0]

Because Summerslam IS the #2 PPV of the WWE PPV calendar. It has always been. Although in drawing ability the Royal Rumble has surpassed Summerslam, but as far as signficance goes, its Mania, Summerslam, Royal Rumble, Survivor Series, King of Ring (to rate the now defunct KOTR over Summerslam is asinine, with their horrible cards in the past.... King Mabel anyone?)

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I know SS has been running longer, but the Rumble is booked as being bigger IMHO by the WWE. SurSer has always been my favourite PPV. I loved the concept of the KotR Tourney until they shat on it. It was a good way to put people over. Austin, Angle anyone?

 

Memo to WWE: DONT USE STIPS IF YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO USE THEM.

 

My sister's pet monkey could use them better. What justifies Orton-UT being a casket match? Why is CCC-Benjamin a Streetfight? These are just very bad decisions. If they really cant put the latter fued of its misery cant they make it a ladder match? Id prefer a title match where it changes hands with a DQ or CO personally.

 

2nd Memor to WWE: Stop giving us shitty rematch 437018. Im fed-up of CCC-Benjamin, Edge-Kane, Eddie-Rey (Which is dropping fast), TBS-Angle et al.

 

People want to see Hardy-Edge at SS cause everybody knows that the WWE will drop the ball. If anything, Edge wont want to be in the ring when Matt is.

 

@Bacon: Matt has no beef with Snistky.

 

@Deon: Dont you pass the torch to somebody who is younger and has more fuel in the tank than Michaels?

 

Why does everybody here think that so and so match should be a street fight?

 

Meltzer thought the WMXX main was going to include a ladder stip...so these matches could change a bit in the near future.

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What? Batista-HHH was meant to be a ladder match?

 

You mean some of you are actually beginning to miss Triple H?

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Im not missing his long boring promos, thats for sure.

[Guest Ransome]

On the Hardy/Edge stuff, while it'd be idiotic to just throw them into a tag match like that, I agree with those who say that it's a mistake to have them fight at SummerSlam. You can say that people will lose interest if they don't pull the trigger now, which is certainly possible, but at the same time, doing it at SummerSlam would take a lot of the lustre away from the program, as that's nowhere near enough time to build the kind of emotional response an angle as big as this should have. IMO, they shouldn't meet in the ring until Survivor Series at the earliest, and in the meantime they should keep the build in slow burn.

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I agree, they only get one chance to make a strong showing for their first one-on-one encounter. If the match is rushed too soon, their 'money' feud will be dead in the water. They need a match worthy of the (onscreen and offscreen) buildup that it's been given, and it needs time for Matt Hardy to appear absolutely desperate to get his hands on Edge in a match, and for the crowd to be equally anticipated to see it. I'm not so sure they need to play up the 'shoot' aspect of the feud so much if it prevents us from an ultra bitter Matt Hardy TV promo to explain to the viewers why he feels so betrayed and why we should care. Either way, Summerslam is too early for the one-on-one match, since the crowd will be the most rabid for their first hooking up in the ring and the feud can never be as intense afterwards.

 

Meltzer thought the WMXX main was going to include a ladder stip...so these matches could change a bit in the near future.

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What? Batista-HHH was meant to be a ladder match?

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Try reading.

[Team Angle Pusher 0]

Have JBL beat Batista at GAB this Sunday. JBL versus Benoit versus Batista versus Hassan at Summerslam, they all have something against each other except for Batista and Benoit but meh. Batista wins the belt back then at the next SD! PPV Batista against Hassan and JBL against Benoit for the US Title.

[Si82 0]

JBL/Benoit should go about 30 minutes. I don't really care about anything else.

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Dear God why? The match going to be a total wreck.

 

As for the rest of the card. Angle/Show again? How many times will they book this shitty match? Why add Kane and Snitisky to the Matt/Edge match? Do we really need these two hosses on PPV? How do they intended to stretch out the CCC/Benjamin feud? Will they keep fighting every week on Raw with CCC running away every time? Is there anything worth watching on this PPV?

[Silence 0]

Holy shit, this year's Summerslam looks worse than last year's (which I wasn't able to see, but I read that the majority of the matches were shit on by the Canadian crowd for having too much WWE-style in them), in addition to TNA building up to one of their worst PPV's ever.

 

August 2005 is shaping up to be the worst PPV month ever, that's for sure.

[The Mandarin 0]

That card looks like shit. Meltzer's probably just assuming half of it. They're probably going to go a completely different direction with guys like Big Show, Angle, JBL and others. Why would they blow a casket match in a non-main event position?

 

Seriously, it sounds like he's doing some fantasy booking and passing it off as fact. I'll believe it when I see it.

[zyn081 0]

Meltzer thought the WMXX main was going to include a ladder stip...so these matches could change a bit in the near future.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

What? Batista-HHH was meant to be a ladder match?

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Try reading.

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Ooops, sorry.

 

Have JBL beat Batista at GAB this Sunday. JBL versus Benoit versus Batista versus Hassan at Summerslam, they all have something against each other except for Batista and Benoit but meh. Batista wins the belt back then at the next SD! PPV Batista against Hassan and JBL against Benoit for the US Title.

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Wouldnt JBL vs Hassan vs UT vs Batista make more sense and then Benoit vs Regal? JBL has heat with Hassan (cause hes anti-american), UT (history) and Batista (cause hes WHC). UT has heat with Hassan (history) and Batista (cause hes WHC). Batista has heat with Hassan (cause hes anti-american).

 

JBL-Hassan, UT-Batista and Hassan-Batistawouldnt need much in the way of plotlines, very simply: Im pro American and your not you piece of shit, you have something I want and you will rest... in... peace, Im going to beat your ass in this nations capital and in front of your parents respectively.

 

I really wouldnt be surprised if both matches at GAB end up as dusty finishes or called off brawls.

[The Tino Standard 0]

Given that this is in Washington D.C., Batista's hometown, I think this could end up being the first co-brand PPV with a Smackdown match going on last since Judgment Day 2003, if I'm not mistaken. That's a hell of a streak.