Campaign 2008

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

We're in the same district, muhfucka.

[Dr. Zaius 0]

I'm watching the debate between Cynthia McKinney and Hank Johnson in the 4th House district in GA on C-Span and Johnson is making her look really foolish. McKinney is blabbing on about how Osama isn't even connected to 9/11 and looks clueless about when US military force would ever be justified. I'm really rooting for Johnson because while I don't agree with all his views at least he's sane.

Please tell me Johnson actually stands a chance of winning.

[NoCalMike 0]

Is Lieberman losing?

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I'm watching the debate between Cynthia McKinney and Hank Johnson in the 4th House district in GA on C-Span and Johnson is making her look really foolish. McKinney is blabbing on about how Osama isn't even connected to 9/11 and looks clueless about when US military force would ever be justified. I'm really rooting for Johnson because while I don't agree with all his views at least he's sane.

Please tell me Johnson actually stands a chance of winning.

 

I think at the last poll before today he was winning by four points but that was within the margin of error.

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Why is MSNBC the only channel covering Leiberman-Lamont?

 

We get it, Fox News, you have a skinny hardon for warfare.

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Now is the time for Lieberman and Zell Miller to stage a duel for the right to lick the sweat from President Bush's balls.

[Danville_Wrestling 0]

Looks like Joe lost this one with 81% of polls reporting and he's down 52-48. However, that's not a big victory for Lamont and probably will not discourage Lieberman from participating in the general election as an independent.

 

If the GOP wanted to turn this general election race into a proxy war they could. The GOP candidate is only polling around 8% so if they withdrew their candidate and tacitly through their support behind Lieberman they could try to embarass the Democrats in this race since the party machinery will probably be geared behind Lamont right now. Fat chance of this happening but its an idea.

 

The wild card in the general election will be GOP voters and especially independent voters. While independents are very anti-war and anti-Bush in CT Lieberman might be able to win them over if he flip flops but who knows.

 

Also, I don't see the DNC pouring tons of money into this race since they are focused on winning in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Minnesota, Washington, Tennessee, and other key races. They'll probably see this as a win-win since Lamont will represent the party if he wins and Lieberman will vote with them anyway (or at least that good ol' 90% of the time) if he ends up winning so that isn't going to really aid the Lamont cause.

 

I'm still skeptical Lamont will win this seat when all is said and done.

 

The one good thing for me tonight, though, is that it looks like Cynthia McKinney is going down in GA to Hank Johnson. Goodbye and good riddance say I.

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Ned Lamont : 2008 :: Gene McCarthy : 1968

 

Did I do that right, Czech?

[Guest Felonies!]

Of course.

[Dr. Zaius 0]

From CNN.

 

McKinney beaten but unbowed

 

ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) -- Rep. Cynthia McKinney is controversial and outspoken, independent and unrepentant, all of which have endeared her to a dedicated corps of supporters in her metro Atlanta district, but not to a majority of her fellow Democrats who turned out in Tuesday's primary runoff.

 

For the second time in three election cycles, McKinney was defeated in a Democratic primary in Georgia's 4th District, this time by Hank Johnson, a former DeKalb County commissioner who thumped her 59 percent to 41 percent.

 

Despite her defeat, McKinney was unbowed, unleashing a stemwinder of a concession speech in which she barely mentioned her opponent but praised leftist leaders in Cuba and Venezuela, took aim at the efficacy of electronic voting machines and offered several swipes at the media.

 

"Members of the press, as well as our political leaders, don't give us explanations that explain, or conclusions that conclude," McKinney said. "There comes a time when people of conscience are compelled to dissent."

 

Before she began her remarks, she played the song "Dear Mr. President," an anti-Bush anthem by Pink, and sang along, somewhat out of tune, with its critical lyrics.

 

"We love our country, and that is why we dissent, because we care," she said. "Either we can be a force for good, or we can rely on force and upset the world. Sadly, this administration has chosen the latter."

 

McKinney has been in this situation before. In 2002, she lost her primary bid after suggesting members of the Bush administration stood to profit from the war that followed the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Two years ago, she made a successful comeback with a low-key campaign in which she largely avoided controversy.

 

Her denouement this time around may have come in March, when she drew national headlines with a physical confrontation with a U.S. Capitol Police officer, who challenged her after failing to recognize the six-term lawmaker at a security checkpoint.

 

After first claiming she was the victim of racial profiling, McKinney changed course and apologized on the House floor, and a District of Columbia grand jury refused to indict her. But the episode played into Johnson's charge on the campaign trail that she was an "embarrassment" to her constituents in the 4th District, a majority black, heavily Democratic district on the east side of metro Atlanta.

 

After being forced into a runoff by Johnson in the July 18 primary, McKinney went on the offensive, accusing him of accepting money and votes from Republicans who wanted to drum her out of Congress. He called her charges "desperate" and vowed to be a less divisive figure.

 

Given the 4th District's Democratic tilt, Johnson will be a prohibitive favorite in the fall against the Republican nominee, Catherine Davis, a human resources manager from Stone Mountain making her third bid for the seat.

 

Without mentioning Johnson by name, McKinney concluded her remarks by saying, "I wish the new representative of the 4th Congressional District well."

 

She said not a word about her own plans or political future.

 

 

Teeh-hee.

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Isn't McKinney the batty representative that Ripper was stuck dealing with and couldn't explain for a minute why people kept voting her back into office?

 

I'd love to say this is the last we'll hear from her, but I know she'll be back. Crazy people always come back. Except Ross Perot, he hasn't come back.

[Dr. Zaius 0]

Isn't McKinney the batty representative that Ripper was stuck dealing with and couldn't explain for a minute why people kept voting her back into office?

 

I'd love to say this is the last we'll hear from her, but I know she'll be back. Crazy people always come back. Except Ross Perot, he hasn't come back.

Doesn't 1996 count?

[Dr. Zaius 0]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/09/dem...ries/index.html

 

GOP: 'Defeat-ocrats' won

GOP leaders were quick to jump on Tuesday's primary results, saying Lamont's victory indicated that the 'defeat-ocrats' were taking over the Democratic Party.

 

While campaigning in Ohio, Republican Party Chairman Ken Mehlman said the vote reflected "an unfortunate embrace of isolationism, defeatism, and a 'blame America first' attitude by national Democratic leaders at a time when retreating from the world is particularly dangerous."

 

Mehlman also tried to tie Lamont's victory to the Senate race in Ohio in which DeWine trails the Democratic candidate Rep. Sherrod Brown in the latest polls.

 

"Sherrod Brown is Ohio's answer to Ned Lamont," Mehlman said.

 

"Defeat-ocrats"? The RNC has been taken over by middle schoolers.

 

Lieberman will not accept results

Lieberman, however, said Tuesday night that he could not accept his primary loss and vowed to run for re-election as an independent this fall. (Full Story)

 

But he told his supporters: "For the sake of our state, our country and my party, I cannot and will not let that result stand."

 

Lieberman told CNN's "American Morning" that he would say "no, no, no" if the Democratic Party asked him not to run by himself in the fall poll. (Watch Lieberman reveal how he will fight on -- 6:39)

 

"I am in this race to the end. For me, it is a cause, and it is a cause not to let this Democratic Party that I joined with the inspiration of President Kennedy in 1960 to be taken over by people who are so far from the mainstream of American life that I fear we will not elect Democrats in the numbers that we should in the future," he said in an interview with CNN's Soledad O'Brien.

 

Lieberman's team filed petitions for him to run for re-election to the Senate just hours after his defeat, The Associated Press reported.

 

Lieberman -- who six years ago ran as former Vice President Al Gore's running mate -- is seeking a fourth Senate term. Lamont, a former Greenwich city councilman, is running his first statewide campaign.

 

Time to pull back out those "Sore Loserman" signs from 6 years ago.

[Gary Floyd 0]

Liebermna to Lamont: "I Don't Like You"

[Dr. Zaius 0]

http://www.selectsmart.com/plus/select.php...=08frontrunners

 

Some of the questions/responses are poorly worded, but still fairly interesting to do and get the results of.

[Art Sandusky 0]

Quietly, the President has gotten his approval rating back over 40%. Anyone else notice over the last couple of years that his approval rating happens to be inversely proportional to how much he's (visibly) doing?

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

Quietly, the President has gotten his approval rating back over 40%

 

Not according to realclearpolitics.com.

 

As long as it's below 40 in MO, though, I don't really care. And, I don't anticipate it getting anywhere close, so I should be cool.

[Art Sandusky 0]

I was going by the Rasmussen Reports numbers.

[bobobrazil1984 0]

interesting read on Time.com about the ever-present Hillary question. Drudge's linked to it on the front page. in particular there is a comment near the end of the article that suggests, via unnamed sources who are close to Hillary, that she might be interested in setting her sights on the Senate to become majority leader rather than president.

[Dr. Zaius 0]

Here, enjoy the Splenda-like flavor of another meaningly poll...

 

Poll: Giuliani, Clinton favorites for 2008 nominations

[2GOLD 0]

Here, enjoy the Splenda-like flavor of another meaningly poll...

 

Poll: Giuliani, Clinton favorites for 2008 nominations

 

Hilary seems like the strict school teacher who would hit your hands with a ruler and then grab your throat and tell you that she'd kill you if you reported her. That may actually work in her favor.

 

I'm glad this poll is too early to judge, cause that is a bad list of candiates. Newt Gingrich? John Kerry? John Edwards? Come on now.

[Guest JustPassinBy]

Here, enjoy the Splenda-like flavor of another meaningly poll...

 

Poll: Giuliani, Clinton favorites for 2008 nominations

 

 

LOL...

 

Please let it be Rudy vs Hillary.

Please!

 

That might another Reagan vs Mondale.

 

I just cant believe how stupid the DNC is.

Running congressional races on national issues (Iraq).

They are getting caught looking at poll numbers and not common sense.

 

Common sense says people like an "ass kicking" message/attitude, rather than a "woe is us victim" attitude. I wont even get into the low taxes issue, bc I do think national security is the most important topic at hand, but its an issue the Dems cant win on.

 

I read that the Dem platform was #1 War in Iraq, #2 cutting college costs, and #3 cutting gas prices.

 

#1. This is an issue they cant win on, so they of course make it the focal point. Thanks! The Iraq poll numbers are about as usefull as the 2004 exit polls. They're meaningless.

 

#2. Cutting college costs---this is a really great issue, but I've heard nothing from the Dems about it. This is an issue that is very relevant and winnable, and yet they dont run on it. Hmmm....?

#3. Cutting gas prices-- this is an issue they cant win on either bc of simple economics. If it was brought up in debate, they'd be shredded. US policy doesnt affect global supply/demand of oil. Simple as that. Price ceilings dont work. Thee end.

 

The Dem strategy appears to be to influence ignorant people that cant think out things for themselves (issue- Gas Prices). However, they should know that ignorant people are generally lazy, and lazy people dont vote. They also target the far out left descendants of the peace (hippy) movement of the late 60's. How many baby booming pussies are there? Probably a lot I'd admit, but even then most have 'grown up' and are getting ready for retirement. "Sticking it to the man" and "Make love not war"... doesnt really resonate with them anymore

 

So that leaves Blacks and Gays, that make up like 15 percent of society. Its hard to win when your base is 15% and its trying to outvote the other 85% of America.

 

With all of these negative issues at hand for Dems, the only way they would have a chance to regain power is if the economy just went into a deep deep recession (think George Bush the 1st). Thats not gonna happen, even with the Fed still trying to raise interest rates.

 

The Dems are just fucked.

 

No wonder most of them on here are pissed off.....

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So that leaves Blacks and Gays, that make up like 15 percent of society. Its hard to win when your base is 15% and its trying to outvote the other 85% of America.

You might want to check your math there, you must've made a mistake carrying a number over or something. That or you're a toolbox. either/or

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justpassinby, despite being corrected several times, still can't spell 'hippie'....do you honestly consider him to be cabable of understanding mathematics, politics, foreign or domestic issues?

 

"Whats wrong with Sean Hannity?"

[Guest JustPassinBy]

So that leaves Blacks and Gays, that make up like 15 percent of society. Its hard to win when your base is 15% and its trying to outvote the other 85% of America.

You might want to check your math there, you must've made a mistake carrying a number over or something.

 

 

15% of America. (Blacks, Gays, and Black Gays)

(12% + 4% - 1%)

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Why do black people have rights anyway?

[Gary Floyd 0]

You still haven't told me how that Klan meeting was like, JustPassinBy

[Gary Floyd 0]

15% of America. (Blacks, Gays, and Black Gays)

(12% + 4% - 1%)

Yeah, fuck the darkies man!

 

You are pathetic. It's a wonder that you haven't been banned yet.

[Guest Felonies!]

Blacks + Gays - Black Gays = Democrats

 

Fun with math!

[Slayer 0]

Someone took basic statistics at juco