snuffbox 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2007 Hilary's not going to win the conservatives over anyway. What she did was noticeably silly enough not to offend the people she COULD win over, while helping by making her look more like an actual human. When asked about it later she first said something like "You guys keep saying I need to open up more & be funny...I thought I was funny, now Im being psychoanalyzed." She said that with a smile too and really was the best response. Somewhere after that she got spooked again & went back into formica mode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DARRYLXWF 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2007 Pity she doesn't have a clue when it comes to actual...y'know, policy and stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2007 There's a Hillary complaint you dont hear every day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DARRYLXWF 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2007 There are always specific moments when you make up your mind about someone. I don't know if anyone here has read Bastiat's famous parody of The Candlestick makers petition (http://bastiat.org/en/petition.html), but its one of the most famous free trade pieces ever written. Hilary, in act that surely wasn't designed to show off her economic credentials, endorsed a petition by American candlemakers to impose a 108.3% tariff on Chinese candlemakers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2007 Hilary's not going to win the conservatives over anyway. What she did was noticeably silly enough not to offend the people she COULD win over, while helping by making her look more like an actual human. When asked about it later she first said something like "You guys keep saying I need to open up more & be funny...I thought I was funny, now Im being psychoanalyzed." She said that with a smile too and really was the best response. Somewhere after that she got spooked again & went back into formica mode. That's all true, but since John Kerry got politically raped over a bad joke a few months ago, I really can't blame her for playing it safe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2007 I still like McCain. Just sayin'. http://therealmccain.com/ I don't like McCain, but just watching the first few minutes of the main video on that web page makes me like him a bit more. It never helps to spin things at a bigger rate than the person your trying to criticize. Every issue that video points to shows how full of crap McCain is. Point out one example of spin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2007 I don't think he actually watched the video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Floyd 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2007 I still like McCain. Just sayin'. http://therealmccain.com/ I don't like McCain, but just watching the first few minutes of the main video on that web page makes me like him a bit more. It never helps to spin things at a bigger rate than the person your trying to criticize. Every issue that video points to shows how full of crap McCain is. Point out one example of spin. OMG, did you know he rapes babies! Christ, it's a political website trying to "expose" a candidate. Once again, smitty fights the "good fight." I tried watching the video, and cringed because of how obvious it all was. Then again as I said earlier, websites and documentaries trying to "expose" politicians don't do it for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DARRYLXWF 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2007 I still like McCain. Just sayin'. http://therealmccain.com/ I don't like McCain, but just watching the first few minutes of the main video on that web page makes me like him a bit more. It never helps to spin things at a bigger rate than the person your trying to criticize. Every issue that video points to shows how full of crap McCain is. Point out one example of spin. I'll point out two. The first argument it makes in regards to McCains commentary on the Iraq War suggests that McCain advocated polar opposite viewpoints ('It will be easy - No one said it would be easy'). Though both comments are related to Iraq, they are on completely different matters. One is on the initial overthrow of Saddam and the institution of another government (that was easy), the other was quelling insurgency and ensuring a secure transition to a liberal democracy (not easy). I have no doubt that McCain probably did think that Iraq wouldn't have eventuated into such a struggle (like a lot of people on both sides), but the video takes the easy road and misquotes him instead. Slamming a republican over Iraq isn't rocket science, why does the site have to spin it? The second is in relation to gay marriage, where again, it suggests that McCain contradicted himself. This is another classic example of having the opportunity to attack a politician for a weak argument, but again, resort to misquotation and spin. McCain doesn't mind 'ceremonies' of gay marriage, but as an event acknowledged and recognised by law, he does mind. A simple (but stupid) argument that the site could acknowledge for its simplemindedness. Instead, the site chooses to lie and suggest he contradicted himself - that they are in fact, one and the same. The worst example though was not the video but the little side board which criticizes him for supporting the elimination of the minimum wage, not because the policy is bad, but because a lot of people don't support it! What this proves is that the only thing these people know, is that they don't like McCain. They can't articulate a proper intellectual argument so they use simple minded spin doctoring to get their way. If that's all you have to argue against a McCain presidency, then you're not trying hard enough. End of story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2007 Mr. Biden is equally skeptical, albeit in a slightly more backhanded way, about Mr. Obama. “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” he said. “I mean, that's a storybook, man.” I guess he decided to eliminate himself with something besides plagiarism this time. Or, maybe Invader could be his running mate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2007 Biden's supposed to be on the Daily Show tonight to make his formal candidacy announcement. I wonder if he'll still be in the race this time next week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2007 Mr. Biden is equally skeptical, albeit in a slightly more backhanded way, about Mr. Obama. “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” he said. “I mean, that's a storybook, man.” I guess he decided to eliminate himself with something besides plagiarism this time. Or, maybe Invader could be his running mate. Oh...HAHAHAHAHA. Btw, who's this Jesse Jackson fella I seem to remember? Maybe he was Asian or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest "Go, Mordecai!" Report post Posted January 31, 2007 Yeah, but Jesse wasn't clean. He fraternized with the Black Stone Rangers and used them to shake down Chicago grocery stores that weren't selling Joe Louis Milk. Also wasn't good-looking. Check out the harelip. As for Biden: hah! I'm surprised he was able to eliminate himself with a speech that didn't take thirty minutes to complete. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2007 Al Sharpton doesn't bathe regularly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2007 Biden should do what I do and save his dumb ass, condescending, ignorant comments for anonymous posts on internet message boards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2007 http://www.startribune.com/587/story/972540.html Al Franken is going to run for Norm Coleman's MN Senate seat. He could make Humphrey seem tolerable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danville_Wrestling 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2007 I bet Norm Coleman is jumping in the air at the prospect of facing Al Franken. However, I don't see Franken getting the shot since Coleman will be one of the most vulnerable senators up for election next year and I figure the Democrats would actually want to win that seat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2007 You're right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2007 That's probably what the Governor candidates were thinking in 1998. "This should be sooo easy, a rassler! Wait, where are we? Minnesota? Shit!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest "Go, Mordecai!" Report post Posted February 1, 2007 http://www.startribune.com/587/story/972540.html Al Franken is going to run for Norm Coleman's MN Senate seat. He could make Humphrey seem tolerable. Stuart Smalley for Senate! Now I know I've spoken out against the idea of tired old career politicians taking up all the space in government, but seriously, Al Franken isn't a hell of a lot more than the guy that wrote some Coneheads sketches. I don't think he's exceptionally qualified for the job above and beyond other liberal comedy writers, and as a person, I think he's a piece of shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2007 I wouldn't be concerned about him being elected if it wasn't MN. He has a very good chance. And he will be Mike DeWine levels of terrible, only on the other side of the aisle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest "Go, Mordecai!" Report post Posted February 1, 2007 HEY. He did some shitty stand-up at USO shows, so that absolves him of any and all criticism. Who did YOU tell dopey jokes for today? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2007 (edited) Editted for reasons elaborated on below. Edited February 1, 2007 by SuperJerk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2007 Lame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2007 Yeah, that was pretty bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest "Go, Mordecai!" Report post Posted February 1, 2007 I missed something here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2007 Trust me, you're better off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2007 "I take a bath every day." Al Sharpton to Joe Biden yesterday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2007 Um, oh snap? WTF are some people thinking? I swear to God... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2007 You dont think what Biden said was extremely mindless & condescending? Much like everything he says. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites