Campaign 2008

[Dobbs 3K 0]

Well, I don't smoke, so I couldn't care less about that. Pretty much everyone uses gasoline, though.

[snuffbox 0]

I don't smoke either. It's still awful.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

I dont see how states can raise cigarette taxes and then also pass laws restricting where people can smoke, but its happened here in MD. $2 a pack tax (4th highest in the country) and now you are not allowed to smoke in restaurants and bars, as well as (locally at least)at hospitals and colleges, basically saying you can't smoke on those properties at all, even in your own car if its in their parking lots. It seems sort of stupid to raise taxes for revenue on something you are trying to tax into the ground to make people stop. Eventually either people quit because of the cost due to the taxes or they go to other states (Virginia especially here) to avoid the tax, but either way that revenue stream will probably keep shrinking until they need to find something else to tax.

 

Oh, and on the gas tax..O'malley wanted to reword the MD gas tax to tie it to the consumer price index or something so that it would automatically increase a certain amount every year, as well as raising it to $.355 a gallon up from $.235 a gallon, which would mean total taxes with federal at about $.535 a gallon, but as far as I can tell that was his only tax increase that didn't manage to get passed.

 

 

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

Why are you happy that a bunch of people will end up paying 25% more per fill-up of gas? So someone living on a $8.50 to $10.00 an hour wage has to pinch their money even more just to get to and from work?

 

It's called a negative externality. People aren't paying the "real" cost for a gallon of gasoline now. Especially considering all of the tax breaks and other assorted goodies Congress handed out to oil companies in the last energy bill.

 

(I actually think cap and trade is probably going to be the way the nation goes on this issue, rather than a carbon tax.)

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

Any Iowa predictions?

 

I say:

 

D

1. Obama

2. Edwards

3. Clinton

 

R

1. Romney

2. Huckabee

3. McCain

4. Paul

 

Let's see how wrong I am tomorrow.

[snuffbox 0]

Democrats - Obama, Clinton, Edwards

 

GOP - Huckabee, Romney, McCain, Old Man

[Guest My Pal, the Tortoise]

Clinton, Obama, Edwards

Romney, Giuliani, Huckabee, McCain, Old Fred

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

Giuliani? What are you smoking?

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

Its gonna be Obama and Huckabee

[EricMM 0]

It's called a negative externality. People aren't paying the "real" cost for a gallon of gasoline now. Especially considering all of the tax breaks and other assorted goodies Congress handed out to oil companies in the last energy bill.

In a nutshell...

 

But, yes, a cap n trade system is more likely. And that's fine, as long as credits are auctioned and not given.

[Guest My Pal, the Tortoise]

Giuliani? What are you smoking?

Weird things happen sometimes.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Man, the primaries are silly.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

Anyone else hear those reports about Thompson considering dropping out?

[snuffbox 0]

But what about all the supporters of his joke candidacy?

[Guest My Pal, the Tortoise]

How do you drop out if you didn't really drop in?

 

Man, that guy ended up being a disappointment.

[megaadvice 0]

Mitt Romney is a disgrace. He will do absolutly anything, say anything to get votes. He is a slimeball who is desperate for power.

 

I reckon Obama will just pull it out tonight, with Clinton a close second.

[Narcoleptic Jumper 0]

Edwards, Obama, Clinton

Paul, Huckabee, Romney

 

Let's wait and see before you tell me how ridiculous I am.

[bobobrazil1984 0]

i'm genuinely surprised that Edwards is doing so well in polls to the point where its a 3 way race. I thought he had the 'loser' stigma around his neck.

[Gary Floyd 0]

I'm actually not suprised to see Edwards is doing so well. The guy seems more focused than Obama and Clinton IMO, and is slowly becoming my favorite candidate.

 

Walking around today, I still can't believe that A.) There are so many Ron Paul supporters, and that B.) That they actually think he will either win or pull in 2nd. I tried telling one Paulite this, and he yelled at me. Good God, this guy's followers are psychos.

[Guest My Pal, the Tortoise]

Mitt Romney is a disgrace. He will do absolutly anything, say anything to get votes. He is a slimeball who is desperate for power.

 

[PUT THAT DICK IN MY MOUTH! 0]

If Clinton gets the nomination I'll probably be forced to become one of those faggots who votes for a third party. Ughh/

[Guest My Pal, the Tortoise]

I'll probably just end up voting for whoever the Republican is, out of sheer obligation.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

I would consider voting for Ron Paul, at least over Hillary, probably.

 

[Guest My Pal, the Tortoise]

Yeah, Ronnie is my first choice.

 

What time do we get to watch people stand in corners on C-SPAN?

[JaMarcus Russell's #1 Caucasian Fan 0]

Just a quick obeservation and question:

 

With the big states like California and New York moving their primaries to February this election year, does tonights Iowa vote really matter to canidates like Clinton and Rudy, who all but have the big states locked up if I'm not mistaken?

[Guest My Pal, the Tortoise]

C-SPAN is interviewing fuckin' Iowans here. Man, these people exist.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

Poor kid is nervous before his first caucus..

 

aww

 

 

[Quit Calling My Mama 0]

You can tell this caucus chair on C-Span has been practising his crappy stand up routine for weeks.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

Man "Abraham Lincoln had the same amount of experience in the senate as Obama"

Woman "AND HE GOT SHOT!"

Man "Wasn't his fault!"

(both laugh)

 

these are the people that are picking who we get to pick from as President?

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

The couple of Dodd and Biden supporters are being courted pretty heavily..

 

This is actually pretty fun tv.