Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2008 Well, I don't smoke, so I couldn't care less about that. Pretty much everyone uses gasoline, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2008 I don't smoke either. It's still awful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2008 I dont see how states can raise cigarette taxes and then also pass laws restricting where people can smoke, but its happened here in MD. $2 a pack tax (4th highest in the country) and now you are not allowed to smoke in restaurants and bars, as well as (locally at least)at hospitals and colleges, basically saying you can't smoke on those properties at all, even in your own car if its in their parking lots. It seems sort of stupid to raise taxes for revenue on something you are trying to tax into the ground to make people stop. Eventually either people quit because of the cost due to the taxes or they go to other states (Virginia especially here) to avoid the tax, but either way that revenue stream will probably keep shrinking until they need to find something else to tax. Oh, and on the gas tax..O'malley wanted to reword the MD gas tax to tie it to the consumer price index or something so that it would automatically increase a certain amount every year, as well as raising it to $.355 a gallon up from $.235 a gallon, which would mean total taxes with federal at about $.535 a gallon, but as far as I can tell that was his only tax increase that didn't manage to get passed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2008 Why are you happy that a bunch of people will end up paying 25% more per fill-up of gas? So someone living on a $8.50 to $10.00 an hour wage has to pinch their money even more just to get to and from work? It's called a negative externality. People aren't paying the "real" cost for a gallon of gasoline now. Especially considering all of the tax breaks and other assorted goodies Congress handed out to oil companies in the last energy bill. (I actually think cap and trade is probably going to be the way the nation goes on this issue, rather than a carbon tax.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2008 Any Iowa predictions? I say: D 1. Obama 2. Edwards 3. Clinton R 1. Romney 2. Huckabee 3. McCain 4. Paul Let's see how wrong I am tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2008 Democrats - Obama, Clinton, Edwards GOP - Huckabee, Romney, McCain, Old Man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest My Pal, the Tortoise Report post Posted January 3, 2008 Clinton, Obama, Edwards Romney, Giuliani, Huckabee, McCain, Old Fred Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2008 Giuliani? What are you smoking? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2008 Its gonna be Obama and Huckabee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2008 It's called a negative externality. People aren't paying the "real" cost for a gallon of gasoline now. Especially considering all of the tax breaks and other assorted goodies Congress handed out to oil companies in the last energy bill. In a nutshell... But, yes, a cap n trade system is more likely. And that's fine, as long as credits are auctioned and not given. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest My Pal, the Tortoise Report post Posted January 3, 2008 Giuliani? What are you smoking? Weird things happen sometimes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2008 Man, the primaries are silly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2008 Anyone else hear those reports about Thompson considering dropping out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2008 But what about all the supporters of his joke candidacy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest My Pal, the Tortoise Report post Posted January 3, 2008 How do you drop out if you didn't really drop in? Man, that guy ended up being a disappointment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
megaadvice 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2008 Mitt Romney is a disgrace. He will do absolutly anything, say anything to get votes. He is a slimeball who is desperate for power. I reckon Obama will just pull it out tonight, with Clinton a close second. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Narcoleptic Jumper 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2008 Edwards, Obama, Clinton Paul, Huckabee, Romney Let's wait and see before you tell me how ridiculous I am. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2008 i'm genuinely surprised that Edwards is doing so well in polls to the point where its a 3 way race. I thought he had the 'loser' stigma around his neck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Floyd 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2008 I'm actually not suprised to see Edwards is doing so well. The guy seems more focused than Obama and Clinton IMO, and is slowly becoming my favorite candidate. Walking around today, I still can't believe that A.) There are so many Ron Paul supporters, and that B.) That they actually think he will either win or pull in 2nd. I tried telling one Paulite this, and he yelled at me. Good God, this guy's followers are psychos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest My Pal, the Tortoise Report post Posted January 3, 2008 Mitt Romney is a disgrace. He will do absolutly anything, say anything to get votes. He is a slimeball who is desperate for power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PUT THAT DICK IN MY MOUTH! 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2008 If Clinton gets the nomination I'll probably be forced to become one of those faggots who votes for a third party. Ughh/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest My Pal, the Tortoise Report post Posted January 3, 2008 I'll probably just end up voting for whoever the Republican is, out of sheer obligation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2008 I would consider voting for Ron Paul, at least over Hillary, probably. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest My Pal, the Tortoise Report post Posted January 3, 2008 Yeah, Ronnie is my first choice. What time do we get to watch people stand in corners on C-SPAN? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JaMarcus Russell's #1 Caucasian Fan 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2008 Just a quick obeservation and question: With the big states like California and New York moving their primaries to February this election year, does tonights Iowa vote really matter to canidates like Clinton and Rudy, who all but have the big states locked up if I'm not mistaken? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest My Pal, the Tortoise Report post Posted January 4, 2008 C-SPAN is interviewing fuckin' Iowans here. Man, these people exist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2008 Poor kid is nervous before his first caucus.. aww Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quit Calling My Mama 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2008 You can tell this caucus chair on C-Span has been practising his crappy stand up routine for weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2008 Man "Abraham Lincoln had the same amount of experience in the senate as Obama" Woman "AND HE GOT SHOT!" Man "Wasn't his fault!" (both laugh) these are the people that are picking who we get to pick from as President? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2008 The couple of Dodd and Biden supporters are being courted pretty heavily.. This is actually pretty fun tv. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites