Campaign 2008

[NoCalMike 0]

Karl Rove is talking about how Lieberman demolished Obama in his speech.

 

Um, what?

 

Is the speech gonna get a replay tonight? I was out and about. I just want to see Lieberman make a fool of himself as he starts listing off issues that the Republicans don't care about.

 

Oh and I heard Fred Thompson knocked Obama for his abortion rights, which is weird cause isn't the majority of the country pro-choice(at least through the first two trimesters)?

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"We need a president who doesn't think that the protection of the unborn or a newly born baby is above his pay grade."

-Fred Thompson

 

Way to straw man, Fred.

 

 

 

Who do you think is more embarrassed by this picture right now?

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

Good Lord, Republicans!

Where are the Black people? I havent seen one yet.

There aren't many Black Republicans. That reminds me, the song "Black Republican" is awesome.

 

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

Watching Lieberman speak so glowingly about Sarah Palin was just odd. They disagree on pretty much every single fundamental belief and issue. I know he wants McCains cock in his mouth...but throwing away what you believe in to get in bed with the crazy right? Have fun sitting alone at the lunch table.

[NoCalMike 0]

So their saying Palin is a "maverick" as well?

 

I find it highly hypocritical that Obama is being criticized for being "young, inexperienced" yet McCain's people are trying to use the term "Maverick" as a plus.

 

 

Mommy, where do babies come from?

[SuperJerk 0]

 

Mommy, where do babies come from?

 

Is that anyone we know....?

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Ron Paul Update!

[NoCalMike 0]

Is that anyone we know....?

 

Preggo Palin Kid.

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Is that anyone we know....?

 

Preggo Palin Kid.

Really?

 

Doesn't really look like her.

[SuperJerk 0]

Rep. Heather Wilson is on MSNBC doing the "Obama lets babies die" bit again.

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So, Palin isn't a secessionist apparently? But she has quite a few anti-semetic ties, including more than Pat Buchanan.

 

Seems like her church makes Reverend Wright seem pretty centrist.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

Jesse Ventura rules. Larry King brings him on to discuss the convention and he opens with "I didn't watch. Didn't want to"

 

Fucking awesome.

[Gary Floyd 0]

Jesse Ventura rules. Larry King brings him on to discuss the convention and he opens with "I didn't watch. Didn't want to"

 

Fucking awesome.

Too bad he's kinda really crazy. He's really rockin' the Skullet too.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

It's ok to be nuts when you're as cool as Jesse Ventura.

 

All I learned from his segment is that he hasn't followed anything the Dems or Reps have done in a whle...and he'll be voting for neither.

 

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Great analyst for the RNC.

[CubbyBr 0]

Jesse Ventura rules. Larry King brings him on to discuss the convention and he opens with "I didn't watch. Didn't want to"

 

Fucking awesome.

 

when asked if he heard Bush, Thompson's, or Lieberman's speeches. Ventura added, "didn't want to, didn't need to, already know they'll promise everything and deliver nothing."

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

And now D.L. Hughley has compared the Convention to a Nazi rally.

 

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THIS ELECTION HAS EVERYTHING!!!

[The Truthiness 0]

And now D.L. Hughley has compared the Convention to a Nazi rally.

 

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THIS ELECTION HAS EVERYTHING!!!

 

Actually, Jesse made that comparison 1st.

[CubbyBr 0]

DId I hear Ventura wrong or did he actually compare Fred Thompson's speech to that of Herman Goering of Nazi Germany?

 

EDIT: I guess he was talking about the entire Republican Party.

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*Goering.

 

 

Anyone who makes a comparison of ANYTHING AT ALL to Hitler or the Nazi Party in general loses 100% credibility with me.

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Anyone who makes a comparison of ANYTHING AT ALL to Hitler or the Nazi Party in general loses 100% credibility with me.

 

We don't even tolerate that at TSM... and we allow everything.

 

Jesse Ventura is a really entertaining guy and a wonderfully engaging speaker. He could probably still have a decent political career if he wasn't batshit insane.

[At Home 0]

...or a former wrestler.

[SuperJerk 0]

Jonah Goldberg is on Glen Beck tonight. (I guess the replay is on right now.)

 

Hey, did you know Sarah Palin has faced more media scrutiny than Barack Obama?

 

 

On Larry King they're talking about how white the Republican Convention is.

[Gary Floyd 0]

Jonah Goldberg is on Glen Beck tonight. (I guess the replay is on right now.)

Speaking of Nazi comparisons.

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What a waste of paper that book is.

 

"See, Obama has a good personality. And Hitler had a good personality too. Get it?"

[RonL21 0]

They were speaking of the National Debt on CNN

I seem to remember reading that the US always had a debt

and the Civil War really was the Catalyst that made it huge.

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On Larry King they're talking about how white the Republican Convention is.

BREAKING FUCKING NEWS

SOURCES SAY NON-WHITES TEND TO VOTE DEMOCRATIC

[NoCalMike 0]

Its kind of funny how republicans/conservatives throw fits when people throw around the "hitler/nazi" references (which, sure they have a point) but they are always the quickest to turn around and scream "Commies.....Socialists" back at the left.

 

I guess that is my main gripe is it seems like the media wants to pretend this kind of name-calling started under Bush, but there was an abundance of Clinton/Commie rhetoric going on during his eight years.

 

A guy like Dennis Miller who suddenly was "born again" conservative because he said one day he was walking down the street and someone called Bush a Nazi. Yet, is he outright ignoring the same bretheren on the right would routinely call Clinton a commie, and are now calling Obama a socialist. It's kind of funny to see Dennis Miller struggle to come up with rationale for his newly found conservative "viewpoints" like he doesn't really believe half the shit he's saying, but he has to go along with it to keep his paying gig as a "Fox News Contributer" that, or he has to save face.

 

Umm...yeah I got off topic a little.

 

 

 

[Slayer 0]

Jesse Ventura rules. Larry King brings him on to discuss the convention and he opens with "I didn't watch. Didn't want to"

 

Fucking awesome.

Too bad he's kinda really crazy. He's really rockin' the Skullet too.

He's been taking fashion tips from Devin Townsend

[EricMM 0]

This wasn't always the case, and it's sad that it is now.

 

And Then There Was One

by Thomas L. Friedman

 

As we emerge from Labor Day, college students are gathering back on campuses not only to start the fall semester, but also, in some cases, to vote for the first time in a presidential election. There is no bigger issue on campuses these days than environment/energy. Going into this election, I thought that — for the first time — we would have a choice between two “green” candidates. That view is no longer operative — and college students (and everyone else) need to understand that.

 

With his choice of Sarah Palin — the Alaska governor who has advocated drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and does not believe mankind is playing any role in climate change — for vice president, John McCain has completed his makeover from the greenest Republican to run for president to just another representative of big oil.

 

Given the fact that Senator McCain deliberately avoided voting on all eight attempts to pass a bill extending the vital tax credits and production subsidies to expand our wind and solar industries, and given his support for lowering the gasoline tax in a reckless giveaway that would only promote more gasoline consumption and intensify our addiction to oil, and given his desire to make more oil-drilling, not innovation around renewable energy, the centerpiece of his energy policy — in an effort to mislead voters that support for drilling today would translate into lower prices at the pump today — McCain has forfeited any claim to be a green candidate.

 

So please, students, when McCain comes to your campus and flashes a few posters of wind turbines and solar panels, ask him why he has been AWOL when it came to Congress supporting these new technologies.

 

“Back in June, the Republican Party had a round-up,” said Carl Pope, the executive director of the Sierra Club. “One of the unbranded cattle — a wizened old maverick name John McCain — finally got roped. Then they branded him with a big ‘Lazy O’ — George Bush’s brand, where the O stands for oil. No more maverick.

 

“One of McCain’s last independent policies putting him at odds with Bush was his opposition to drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge,” added Pope, “yet he has now picked a running mate who has opposed holding big oil accountable and been dismissive of alternative energy while focusing her work on more oil drilling in a wildlife refuge and off of our coasts. While the northern edge of her state literally falls into the rising Arctic Ocean, Sarah Palin says, ‘The jury is still out on global warming.’ She’s the one hanging the jury — and John McCain is going to let her.”

 

Indeed, Palin’s much ballyhooed confrontations with the oil industry have all been about who should get more of the windfall profits, not how to end our addiction.

 

Barack Obama should be doing more to promote his green agenda, but at least he had the courage, in the heat of a Democratic primary, not to pander to voters by calling for a lifting of the gasoline tax. And while he has come out for a limited expansion of offshore drilling, he has refrained from misleading voters that this is in any way a solution to our energy problems.

 

I am not against a limited expansion of off-shore drilling now. But it is a complete sideshow. By constantly pounding into voters that his energy focus is to “drill, drill, drill,” McCain is diverting attention from what should be one of the central issues in this election: who has the better plan to promote massive innovation around clean power technologies and energy efficiency.

 

Why? Because renewable energy technologies — what I call “E.T.” — are going to constitute the next great global industry. They will rival and probably surpass “I.T.” — information technology. The country that spawns the most E.T. companies will enjoy more economic power, strategic advantage and rising standards of living. We need to make sure that is America. Big oil and OPEC want to make sure it is not.

 

Palin’s nomination for vice president and her desire to allow drilling in the Alaskan wilderness “reminded me of a lunch I had three and half years ago with one of the Russian trade attachés,” global trade consultant Edward Goldberg said to me. “After much wine, this gentleman told me that his country was very pleased that the Bush administration wanted to drill in the Alaskan wilderness. In his opinion, the amount of product one could actually derive from there was negligible in terms of needs. However, it signified that the Bush administration was not planning to do anything to create alternative energy, which of course would threaten the economic growth of Russia.”

 

So, college students, don’t let anyone tell you that on the issue of green, this election is not important. It is vitally important, and the alternatives could not be more black and white.

[NoCalMike 0]

So watching Lieberman's speech on youtube.

 

When he says "I'm here because Country before Party" Well that's great Joe, but last time I checked you aren't a Democrat anymore, you're an independent.

 

Also, why can't the man just be honest and say that his foreign policy views fall in line with McCain & Bush and that he feels foreign policy is a stronger issue then anything else. Other then that, just about everything Joe was listing off were things the republicans don't even agree with.

 

"When Obama wanted cut off funds for our troops on the battlefield"