Campaign 2008

[The Niggardly King 0]

All that outright emotion and bad jokes... fuck, I have to remind myself that's real and not some MadTV skit.

[The Niggardly King 0]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXOLCR9FHvs

 

I don't if it's older Marvin or Will Sasso...

[BigPoppaKev 0]

Jesus I really can't believe how unintelligent, uninformed some people really are nowadays but that video just proved it to me. Conservative wack jobs like that make me sick. To bring a monkey mocking Obama in a blatantly racist way is just disgusting. How anyone can support that sort of 'politics' is beyond me.

[Maztinho 0]

The one thing this campaign has taught me is that growing up I'd always considered myself conservative, turns out I'm not. Neat.

 

 

 

[SamoaRowe 0]

Consider me proud to be a liberal.

[SuperJerk 0]

To quote Dave Cross, not all Republicans are racists or homophobes. Just most of the people they elect to represent them. The rest just want their tax cut.

 

 

 

 

I wasn't sure if this had been posted yet, but I'd like to comment on it.

 

 

I'm sure you noticed all she she can say are combinations of the words "anti-America," "pro-America," "liberal," and "far left."

 

What's sad is that, even though I disagree with her, I can piece together a more intelligent and persuasive way to state her point than she can. She keeps repeating saying what she IS saying, but won't clarify what she means or state what she ISN'T saying (despite being asked to clarify).

 

The most idiotic thing about the Bill Ayers/Jeremiah Wright strategy has been that the politicians who are trying to use it to their advantage always stop short of actually saying what they mean. They keep calling Obama's associates un-American, but they refuse to fully commit to the idea that this alledged anti-American-ness was transferred to and instilled into Obama. At the same time, everyone (but McCain) flat refuses to draw any kind of line between Obama and the people they are accusing of anti-American-ness by repeating their talking points without actually elaborating.

 

It is like a guy trying to sell you a car, and he keeps saying that the other model you're thinking about isn't as good a value as his car, but when you ask him if he means the other car has worse gas mileage, resale value, or size, all he does is go "I'm not saying that, I'm saying those other cars aren't as good a value."

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Conservatism = small government; not retarded/racist/8 years old emotionally. It is a shame that the idea of a small govt has been bastardized to this extent. We have a big-govt party and a huge-govt party to choose from on a national level. The only conserative in the huge-govt party was mocked during the GOP debates.

[The Niggardly King 0]

It's just sad, how McCain went away from his only decent talking point (Experience) and did a complete 360 into just attacking Obama. The Palin pick was perhaps the worst thing that he went with and if this is who they're truly grooming as the next nominee... the GOP is fuck'd.

 

It's just amazing the people who McCain is trying to appeal to... most of them would have voted for him anyway.

 

At least I've been a part of history. Witnessing the worst Presidential Campaign is something. I can just imagine this being talked about for the next three decades in classrooms.

 

Just sad to see McCain basically become the type of Republican he used to fight against.

[RepoMan 0]

I'd like to think most conservatives aren't that stupid/xenophobic. The campaign's a referendum on Obama. Other than long time McCain supporters who buy into the “Maverick” image, the only people I could see being enthusiastic enough to attend a McCain rally are those who think Obama’s somehow a leftist radical and an Islamic jihadists.

[The Niggardly King 0]

The shit really hit the fan when All-American Palin became the VP nominee.

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People look back fondly to Ted Agnew, right?

[BUTT 0]

Palin needs to stop with all this "small town is the REAL America" stuff. Because let's face it. When you live in Alaska, you're not American. You're Canadian. Don't front. Sorry Smues.

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Mike Huckabee has Joe the Plumber as his guest on the Fox talk show.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

I'd like to think most conservatives aren't that stupid/xenophobic. The campaign's a referendum on Obama. Other than long time McCain supporters who buy into the "Maverick" image, the only people I could see being enthusiastic enough to attend a McCain rally are those who think Obama's somehow a leftist radical and an Islamic jihadists.

 

Believe it or not, there are a few people out there like me who don't want to see what an Obama Presidency coupled with a Democratic Supermajority of Progressive minded democrats in the Senate will have in store for America. Its almost like someone decided to throw the whole country into a time warp back 80 years.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

The Left Declares War On Joe The Plumber

By Michelle Malkin

October 17, 2008

 

Six-term Sen. Joe Biden's got some nerve going after citizen Joe the Plumber. But the entrenched politician from Delaware, who fancies himself the nation's No. 1 Ordinary Joe, had no choice. Obama-Biden simply can't tolerate an outspoken citizen successfully painting the Democratic ticket as socialist overlords. And so a dirty, desperate war against Joe Wurzelbacher is on.

 

The left's political plumbers are attacking the messenger, rummaging through his personal life and predictably wielding the race card onceagain. It's standard operating procedure for the Obama thug machine.

 

Wurzelbacher, in case you've been in hibernation, is the small-businessman from Ohio who questioned Obama about his tax plan during a Toledo

campaign swing last weekend. The revealing exchange was caught on tape and broadcast widely across the Internet and TV airwaves.

 

In response to Wurzelbacher's question about why he should be "taxed more and more for fulfilling the American dream," Obama sermonized that he needed to "spread the wealth around" because "it's good for everybody."

 

John McCain flung that chilling Marxist mantra back in Obama's face during Wednesday night's presidential debate and repeatedly cited Joe the Plumber's plight.

 

Obama squirmed. The dirt-diggers started Googling. And the next morning, six-term Sen. Biden launched the first salvo against the Ohio entrepreneur on NBC's "Today Show," challenging the veracity of his story: "I don't have any Joe the Plumbers in my neighborhood that make $250,000 a year."

 

Under an Obama-Biden administration, they'll make sure /no /Joe the Plumbers ever earn such a salary. "It's good for everybody," don't you know?

 

Biden, as is so often the case, twisted the facts about Wurzelbacher. No surprise there. Slick Joe Biden is the one who tells fables about visiting a diner in Delaware that hasn't been open in years; spins yarns about getting "forced down" in a helicopter over Afghanistan because of perilous conditions that turned out to be weather related, not al-Qaida related; and continues to slander the family of the man involved in his wife and daughter's fatal car accident (crash investigators cleared the

now-deceased driver of drunk driving, despite Biden's insinuations). But I digress.

 

Wurzelbacher never claimed to be making $250,000 a year. He told Obama that he might be "getting ready to buy a company that makes about $250,000, $270,000" a year. His simple point was that Obama's punitive tax proposals would make it more difficult to realize his dream.

 

Obama's followers couldn't handle the incontrovertible truth. Left-wing blogs immediately went to work, blaring headlines like "Not A Real $250k Plumber!" Next, they falsely accused Wurzelbacher of not being registered to vote -- he's registered in Lucas County, Ohio, and voted as a Republican in this year's primary.

 

Next, they called him a liar for identifying himself as undecided. Only registered Democrats and fake Republican tools used in mainstream media stories and YouTube debates are allowed to use that label, you see.

 

Next, award-winning liberal blogger Joshua Marshall cast Wurzelbacher as some kind of rabid freak for calling Social Security a "joke" -- as if no working-class Americans could believe that the federal government'sentitlement programs were a rip-off unless they were bought and paid for by the McCain campaign.

 

Then, suddenly, the journalists who wouldn't lift a finger to investigate Obama's longtime relationships with Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright sprang into action rifling through citizen Joe Wurzelbacher's tax records. Politico.com reported breathlessly: "Samuel J. Wurzelbacher has a lien placed against him to the tune of $1,182.92. The lien is dated from January of '07." Press outlets probed his divorce records. The local plumbers union, which has

endorsed Obama, claimed he didn't do their required apprenticeship work and didn't have a license to work outside his local township.

 

Hang him!

 

After Wurzelbacher told Katie Couric that Obama's rhetorical tap dance was "almost as good as Sammy Davis, Jr.," the inevitable cries of "bigotry" followed. (There are now tens of thousands of hits on the internet for "Joe the Plumber racist.")

 

Welcome to Joe the Plumber Derangement Syndrome. If you can't beat him, smear him. It's the Obama way.

 

Basically what I said on Thursday, but hey..

 

 

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http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmart..._robocalls.html

 

Republican Sens Norm Coleman and Susan Collins (MN & ME), both fighting for re-election, dislike the McCain robocalls.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmart..._robocalls.html

 

Republican Sens Norm Coleman and Susan Collins (MN & ME), both fighting for re-election, dislike the McCain robocalls.

 

Can't wait for the Republicans so desperate enough to save their seats that they start saying "Im not John McCain or George Bush!"

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Ventura should've ran.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

Al Franken and Ventura in the same race would have probably been too much

 

I can't believe people in Minnesota are actually going to vote for Al F'n Franken though. Seriously?

 

 

[At Home 0]

The Left Declares War On Joe The Plumber

By Michelle Malkin

October 17, 2008

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/a...rody-award.aspx

 

Michelle Malkin's been there before.

[At Home 0]

I'd like to think most conservatives aren't that stupid/xenophobic. The campaign's a referendum on Obama. Other than long time McCain supporters who buy into the "Maverick" image, the only people I could see being enthusiastic enough to attend a McCain rally are those who think Obama's somehow a leftist radical and an Islamic jihadists.

 

Believe it or not, there are a few people out there like me who don't want to see what an Obama Presidency coupled with a Democratic Supermajority of Progressive minded democrats in the Senate will have in store for America. Its almost like someone decided to throw the whole country into a time warp back 80 years.

 

Given that, by definition, conservatives are reactionary forces, the republican white houses have been like sticking the whole country in a time machine that was stuck in park.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

The Left Declares War On Joe The Plumber

By Michelle Malkin

October 17, 2008

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/a...rody-award.aspx

 

Michelle Malkin's been there before.

 

Still, Malkin makes one valid point. Running with thinly-sourced or unconfirmed allegations about Wurzelbacher's personal life--his financial records, his license situation, his marriage--goes too far. Wurzelbacher doesn't seem particularly skittish about speaking his mind or getting attention for it. But there's no way he could be prepared for the kind of scrutiny that comes with being the political world's most famous talking point.

 

As a result, writers should allow Wurzelbacher a bit more privacy than they would the typical public figure. And when printing anything that touches on his personal life, even remotely, they should be sure to confirm it first. So far, it seems, writers haven't always done that.

 

 

Holy crap! We agree on something! That was 1/2 of my whole point right there, that this guy isn't a part of any campaign and yet they jumped all over him like he was. Though if he continues to milk his 15 minutes of fame he got out of this, Im going to relent on that feeling and not worry about how the media treats him anymore.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

He became a part of the campaign when McCain mentioned him 21 times during the debate.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

I'd like to think most conservatives aren't that stupid/xenophobic. The campaign's a referendum on Obama. Other than long time McCain supporters who buy into the "Maverick" image, the only people I could see being enthusiastic enough to attend a McCain rally are those who think Obama's somehow a leftist radical and an Islamic jihadists.

 

Believe it or not, there are a few people out there like me who don't want to see what an Obama Presidency coupled with a Democratic Supermajority of Progressive minded democrats in the Senate will have in store for America. Its almost like someone decided to throw the whole country into a time warp back 80 years.

 

Given that, by definition, conservatives are reactionary forces, the republican white houses have been like sticking the whole country in a time machine that was stuck in park.

 

Id rather be stuck in park then back up into a ditch.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

He became a part of the campaign when McCain mentioned him 21 times during the debate.

By that logic..Ayers and Wright would be to.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

The media talks about them and has dug into their stories as well...what's your point there?

 

Joe the Plummer has given more interviews than Sarah Palin...and the republicans want to bitch that the media is covering him?

 

Why don't they call him and tell him to just say no to an interview.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

The media talks about them and has dug into their stories as well...what's your point there?

 

Joe the Plummer has given more interviews than Sarah Palin...and the republicans want to bitch that the media is covering him?

 

Why don't they call him and tell him to just say no to an interview.

If by covering you mean digging up stuff to smear him with then, well they're doing the same thing they did with Sarah Palin.

 

Im with you on someone needing to tell Joe his 15 minutes are up though.

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Yeah god damn that liberal media all they're trying to do is (besides do their journalistic duty) smear them there good hearted conservative folk and turn us all into socialists.

 

Marvin, do you have shortcut keys for the typical Glenn Beck buzzwords, like Ayers, or Socialist, or liberal media?

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I'd like to think most conservatives aren't that stupid/xenophobic. The campaign's a referendum on Obama. Other than long time McCain supporters who buy into the "Maverick" image, the only people I could see being enthusiastic enough to attend a McCain rally are those who think Obama's somehow a leftist radical and an Islamic jihadists.

 

Believe it or not, there are a few people out there like me who don't want to see what an Obama Presidency coupled with a Democratic Supermajority of Progressive minded democrats in the Senate will have in store for America. Its almost like someone decided to throw the whole country into a time warp back 80 years.

 

Given that, by definition, conservatives are reactionary forces, the republican white houses have been like sticking the whole country in a time machine that was stuck in park.

 

Id rather be stuck in park then back up into a ditch.

 

Right, because all Bill Clinton did was drive this country into the ground. George Bush didn't do anything at all. It was like all he did for the last 8 years was give a bunch of state of the union addresses.

 

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

My point is just that it wasn't the Democrats or the Media who pulled this guy out of obscurity. 21 times is a lot of times to mention a civilian in a 90 minute debate for the presidency. Everyone that watched that debate was pretty much left wondering what the deal was with "Joe the Plummer". He obviously enjoys the limelight...so he gets what he gets.

 

And the Sarah Palin comparison is completely different. They were both plucked by McCain out of nowhere...but she could actually end up VP. They're going to find every piece of info on her that they can...and they should. It isn't even just the "liberal" media anymore. There are plenty of conservatives who find her just as big a joke.