snuffbox 0 Report post Posted September 24, 2007 Looking more & more like it will be Hillary. Her vs. any of the serious GOP possibilities will be as bad as, or worse than, the 1968 options. Goddam. Evan Bayh (remember when he was the darling of some of the weirdos here?) will endorse her soon in hopes of being her non-threatening/whitebread/creppy-grinning running mate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted September 24, 2007 I think it's way too early to be talking presumptive nominees. Remember who was assumed to win the Democratic nomination before the Iowa primary the last go-around? It wasn't John Kerry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted September 24, 2007 I'm not saying it will definitly be her but she's well ahead and running a near-perfect campaign so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted September 24, 2007 Yeah, short of her doing something beyond incredibly stupid, she seems to have it all wrapped up. And I just don't see her making that kind of mistake. Looking more and more like another Presidential election of, "I have to pick one of THESE people?" I'm now just focusing on my home state and hoping the Republicans put up someone who doesn't suck. I have zero faith in the Democratic party here after this Ruth Ann mess and the horrible crap she has rained down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2007 I think it's way too early to be talking presumptive nominees. Remember who was assumed to win the Democratic nomination before the Iowa primary the last go-around? It wasn't John Kerry. Well Howard Dean was the "people's choice" candidate, but John Kerry was the DNC aka the "good ol' boys" pick. It just seems that the nominee will end up being who the big donors are going to back and right now, unfortunately it is Hilllary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2007 I'll probably be back to voting for the Libertarian candidate next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2007 http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8...;show_article=1 Christ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2007 9/11 was six years ago...if Giulianni thinks he can win on that solely, with the short attention span of most Americans, he's going to be sorely mistaken. I think a Giulianni/Clinton election would make me vote third party in a presidential election for the first time, just on principle. It would be the ultimate showdown between two "I'll say anything to anyone to get elected" candidates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2007 NEVER underestimate the gullibility/stupidity of the American Voter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 I can't wait until Rudy is president and we can sing 9/11 carols around the 9/11 tree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 I can't wait until Rudy is president and we can sing 9/11 carols around the 9/11 tree. This made me laugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 I can't wait until Rudy is president and we can sing 9/11 carols around the 9/11 tree. I wish I had some type of drink in my mouth so when I read that line for the first time I could have spit it out laughing.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 When Rudy is president, we can name apple pie "9/11 pie." Apple pie a la mode will be "9/11 pie with a side of Iraqi freedom." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 The scary thing is, there are people out there almost thinking like that. I briefly caught some Sean Hannity on the radio yesterday, and this guy calls in (of course, these people are going to be the GOP kool-aid drinkers). Sean says something like "I hear the weather is nice out there right now," and the caller's response was "Yes, but sadly it just reminds me of 9/11, because that was such a beautiful morning before the attacks." I mean, come on, really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danville_Wrestling 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 Bill Richardson gave a pretty impressive interview two nights ago on the PBS News Hour with Jim Lehrer. It's probably too bad not a lot of people probably saw it because he came off as very pragmatic and not as crazy ideological as most of the candidates in this field. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tzar Lysergic Report post Posted September 26, 2007 NEVER underestimate the gullibility/stupidity of the American Voter. That's almost my favorite PT Barnum quote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 Debate tonight. Will someone finally try to break away from Hillary? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2007 Well I'd say that in last night's debate, the three front runners Hillary/Obama/Edwards came off the least impressive when it came to Iraq issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2007 I hate to say it, but from the little I saw, Hillary made some decent points about illegal immigration and law enforcement, even if I don't agree 100%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2007 Will Obama ever realize that presidential politics requires a fight? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2007 Will Obama ever realize that presidential politics requires a fight? Sometimes he almost acts like he's afraid to get into one. Every time I think he is about to pull out his guns and start fighting, he backs off like it's for the best of the party or he wants to be the VP. I get the feeling I would really like him over Richardson (who just has zero chance I guess) if he would just stop messing around and go for it. Isn't the Democratic Primaries in like a few months? I thought by now he'd realize he has got to make a push if he wants to get up there and take this thing. Or he might just be realizing he's not going to be able to overcome the power of a female candidate and Bill Clinton combined. I'm still hearing a lot of people thinking that once Hilary is the President that Bill will actually be running the country from behind the scenes. Why they believe that, I am still not entirely sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 I wish at least one of the Dem candidates would call Rudy out for milking 9-11 for all it's politically worth to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 I wish at least one of the Dem candidates would call Rudy out for milking 9-11 for all it's politically worth to him. Well for what it's worth in the Dems debate the other night, Joe Biden said something along the lines of Rudy Guliani being the most uninformed person in the entire presidential race on foreign policy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 Being completely uninformed on foreign policy didn't stop George Bush Jr from taking office. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danville_Wrestling 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 I wonder how much controversy this comment will generate... http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/pos...DhmZTlkODhkMWI= Friday, September 28, 2007 JOHN EDWARDS Edwards: 'Pretty Soon We’re Not Going to Have a Young African-American Male Population in America.' Asked about what he could do about "inner-city kids partaking in violence" at the MTV/MySpace Forum yesterday, Democratic candidate John Edwards offered an apocalyptic prediction for young black males: “We cannot build enough prisons to solve this problem. And the idea that we can keep incarcerating and keep incarcerating — pretty soon we’re not going to have a young African-American male population in America. They’re all going to be in prison or dead. One of the two.” Hyperbole much? Despite popular misperception and those who find it a convenient talking point to illustrate inescapable racism, there are more young African-American men in college than in prison. In 2005, according to the Census Bureau, there were 864,000 black men in college. According to Justice Department statistics, there were 802,000 in federal and state prisons and jails; between the ages of 18 and 24, however, black men in college outnumber those incarcerated by 4 to 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 He's done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 I don't know, maybe he was going for the David Duke vote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2007 John Edwards apparently trying a very different strategy to win the Southern Democrat vote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2007 http://www.mercerforpresident2008.com/c14f...8d03f47b3d67dd5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2007 What is the 'electric snake hot-wire hookup'? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites