Which was worse? J. Lewis or Palmiero?

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So I'm at my deskand I'm listening to The Jim Rome show which is being guest hosted by Andrew Scicilliano the next 2 days.

 

Scicilliano brings up how Palmiero is being demonized by the media (and he should until he comes up with an explanation on how the steroids got in his system), but a guy like Jamal Lewis gets welcomed with open arms and hardly any scrutiny. While Lewis merely used his cell phone to contact some people, the contact was for a cocaine deal, which is no laughing matter. People who defended Lewis cited his "honesty" in the matter, while Palmiero lied and is allegedly cheating by using steroids.

 

Which is worse to you? Lewis doing his time and coming clean, even though he participated in a drug deal or Palmiero allegedly lying about steroid use and cheating?

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Considering one is ILLEGAL and the other is... well stupidity... I go with Jamal.

[Crimson Platypus 0]

Lying in a congressional hearing isn't illegal?

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

Jamal Lewis easily, although neither activity should be welcomed.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Lying in a congressional hearing isn't illegal?

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Are they actively pursuing the charge? Even so, aiding in a DRUG DEAL is worse than perjury over steroids usage.

[nl5xsk1 0]

I'll admit it, I'm the one (so far) that's voted for Raffy. I think cheating is worse than assisting a drug deal. Yeah, I know that the latter is (more) illegal than the former ... but I think recreational drug use is more taboo than it should be.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

Isn't recreational drug use a violation of NFL's drug policy? Wouldn't breaking that policy be cheating?

[Ripper 0]

Jamal Lewis selling drugs when he was in college or Raffy using steroids a couple of months a go? When it comes to the "welcoming back with open arms" thing, I think Raffy is worse here.

 

And the fact that Jamal didn't go through with the drug deal while Raffy did use the steroid might have something to do with it.

[nl5xsk1 0]

Isn't recreational drug use a violation of NFL's drug policy?  Wouldn't breaking that policy be cheating?

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By a literal definition, yes, most likely, Al. But by a common sense definition, no. Cheating to me is doing something to have an unfair advantage. Buying/selling/using coke will not give a guy an unfair advantage against others.

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Lying in a congressional hearing isn't illegal?

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Are they actively pursuing the charge? Even so, aiding in a DRUG DEAL is worse than perjury over steroids usage.

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Whether or not they pursue the charge has no bearing on it's legality.

 

Still.. I did vote for Lewis, just fyi. Lets all keep in mind Lewis' prison stay while thinking about this question...

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Well, lessee. I was shocked to hear about Raffy, whilst I've obviously never figured Jamal Lewis to be any sort of fine upstanding citizen. But Palmeiro just lied about his integrity as a ballplayer, but Jamal Lewis broke the law in a big way. How are you defining "worse"? As in for their respective sport, or just as an individual offense?

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Drugs are bad, m'kay?

 

Raffy cheated on the field while Lewis tried to work a coke deal off the field. In the sports world, Raffy getting caught cheating is far worse than Lewis trying to score some coke for a buddy.

 

Getting involved with coke in any way is just fuckin stupid.

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How are you defining "worse"? As in for their respective sport, or just as an individual offense?

 

 

I'm thinking more individual offense. I am of the opinion that the drug deal is a little worse because while Raffy is cheating, it'll hurt him and baseball's image some more. The coke deal hurts anyone who is in contact, either direct contact through usage or associated with the deal.

 

That said, there were some folks today that called up to the show (Rome's show, not my show) and brought up their arguments as to why they felt Palmiero's violation was actually worse than Lewis's and I felt it would make an interesting sports topic of discussion.

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But once again, Lewis didn't go through with the coke deal. So basically it comes down to is thinking about doing something and changing your mind worse than actually doing something. Jamal signed a contract with the Ravens and a friend called about using some of that money to buy coke. Jamal said he would, then said nah, this aint' a good idea. While the saying he would part is a crime, he didn't actually do it, which I think automatically puts Raffey a little worse in my eyes.

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Im surprised he didn't try and make you pick from Ray Lewis and his "double murder" or Raffy.

 

What Jamal did, he did before he even drafted in the NFL and while he was still in college. Im glad everyone went through college squeakly clean and didn't do anything stupid that they might come to regret as an adult in real life.. I've listened to Andrew Scicilliano before when he was on Fox Sports Radio, and I guess he might have room to talk since I doubt he went to college. *CHEAP SHOT*

 

Anyway, I doubt the feds would have pursued the issue had Jamal not rushed for 2,000 yards and become a big time star..they were just looking for someone to make an example of..why else would they use up almost all of the time they had before they couldn't pursue the charges any more? Why didn't they pursue the charges earlier? Because as quickly as he was a star in the Super Bowl, he got hurt and was out for a year. He had a decent 2002, but it wasn't anything to make him a big time star like his 2000 yard 2003 season.

[The Czech Republic 0]

I knew you'd go to bat for him because he plays for the Ravens, but I thought there'd at least be a drop of objectivity. Yeesh

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I don't see how anyone can argue this point the more I think about it though. Using true objectivity you have to look at the point, that once again, Jamal THOUGHT about breaking a crime 5 years ago. Raffy ACTUALLY broke a crime and this crime helped him in his sport(i will always argue that steroids didn't help him hit 3,000 hits, but it kept him on the field). I don't see how the two compare.

 

You can say "ooohhh, buying cocaine is bad" and yeah, it is, but seeing as Jamal DIDN'T DO IT, kinda negates the whole "his crime was worse".

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In the sports relm Palmiero's steroid thing is worse than Lewis since it was a off the field incident.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

Here's an honest question if you think Palmeiro's crime is worse. Given the rampant steroid use in professional wrestling, would you make the same call given Jamal Lewis versus say, Chris Benoit or Eddie Guerrero?

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Wrestling'a performance though. It's staged while the results of baseball are (suupsedly) undetermined or pre-planned.

 

Those guys juice themselves up so they'll look good and get a push. The guys in baseball will get juiced so they can knock balls out of the ball park's easier. Steroid use of any kind, in any sport or entertainment outlet, should be discouraged.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

Wrestling'a performance though.  It's staged while the results of baseball are (suupsedly) undetermined or pre-planned.

 

Those guys juice themselves up so they'll look good and get a push.  The guys in baseball will get juiced so they can knock balls out of the ball park's easier.  Steroid use of any kind, in any sport or entertainment outlet, should be discouraged.

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Yes, but the results are the same. Baseball players who produce better numbers get higher salaries. Wrestlers with better looks receive bigger pushes and more money. At a point, the results at both ends are exactly the same. The only difference is baseball's infatuation with the record book.

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I say its still the same. If Lewis had bought and sold drugs in 2000, I would say yeah, MAYBE he shouldn't be welcomed back with open arms so quickly, but seeing as he didn't and him considering it happend 5 years ago when he wasn't even in the NFL yet, I say that he should be welcomed back open arms.

 

i don't think many people would be frowning upon a wrestler using roids, seeing as it is so rampant. In baseball, it is against the rules therefore, its understandable that they would be looked down upon.

[The Czech Republic 0]

Why am I amused by a football player coming back on to the roster from prison?