Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2005 why would one get suspended for that? I suppose it's considered "gambling" but shouldnt Penny get in trouble as well then? I wonder if it was whole milk or lowfat? Anyhow Yanks win 6-2 to take 3 of 4 at least. The pitching has been a whole lot better recently (outside of Randy and Mooses one ining troubles). I really wish they would figure out what to do about CF. Either way they are in need of revamping in the off-season. I think the boss realizes that. Even if they did what appears to be impossible this year and manage a pennant or world championship, they still need to do some house-cleaning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2005 why would one get suspended for that? I suppose it's considered "gambling" but shouldnt Penny get in trouble as well then? I wonder if it was whole milk or lowfat? It's a Marlins' decision and not one from MLB. Individual teams have much more freedom and leeway in suspending players and personnel than does the league. I'm headed up to the Pawtucket/Scranton game tonight. It will be my first opportunity to see the Greek God of Walks in person. It is also Gavin Floyd's last home start of the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2005 Also, I'm surprised no one mentioned the fun pitching matchup in New York. Chacin vs. Chacon. You don't see that kind of stuff often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2005 Also, I'm surprised no one mentioned the fun pitching matchup in New York. Chacin vs. Chacon. You don't see that kind of stuff often. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yea I got a kick out of that one Al Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2005 Any more out of Pittsburgh about the fight yesterday? Is it confirmed that punches were thrown? Maybe Duncan was embarassed his staff gave up 10 runs against the Pirates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2005 Also, I'm surprised no one mentioned the fun pitching matchup in New York. Chacin vs. Chacon. You don't see that kind of stuff often. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I saw that, but my eyes were playing tricks on me and I saw Chacon vs. Chacon, wondering when the Jays called up this Chacon fellow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2005 Any more out of Pittsburgh about the fight yesterday? Is it confirmed that punches were thrown? Maybe Duncan was embarassed his staff gave up 10 runs against the Pirates. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> All reports are indicating there was just pushing and shoving, no punches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2005 I thought I saw the Pirates hitting coach throw a punch at the Cards pitching coach, which was what triggered the whole thing. Joy, the Royals are knocking Schilling around while Lima's shutting the bats down. That's reassuring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2005 I'm just groaning everytime I see Wells and Schilling pitching. I know it doesn't always happen but something in my head just goes "Well you'd better hit the ball well b/c these guys are going to give up runs." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2005 Yup, time to just let Schill prepare for '06 instead of trying to suck as much out of a guy who's at 65% at best and will probably only hurt the team in the postseason rather than help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2005 A Chicago-Anaheim ALCS is looking more and more likely every day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2005 Given the way the White Sox have played of late, I don't think they get passed the first round. It'll be like 2000 for them all over. I can't help but think the Angels might win the AL. Everyone else is just all over the place, they might take it by default. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted August 26, 2005 Sidney Ponson got arrested for a DUI thursday morning. Man what a winner this guy is. At least he didn't punch a judge this time. Yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devo 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2005 Mets pull out a 3-1 victory tonight and sweep the Diamondbacks in Arizona. I'm incredibly happy about this. They're within 1 1/2 games of the Phillies thanks to this four-game road sweep, which hopefully signifies a change in the Mets' lousy road play before this series. I didn't even expect them to win this series, much less sweep it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2005 Yup, time to just let Schill prepare for '06 instead of trying to suck as much out of a guy who's at 65% at best and will probably only hurt the team in the postseason rather than help. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well I don't like David Wells period and I never have. But when I see either of these guys no matter how good they are pitching I just know that they're going to get lit up in an inning any moment now. It was like Pedro against the Yankees. "Ok he's pitched a no-hitter.....the grand-slam is coming somewhere in here..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2005 A Chicago-Anaheim ALCS is looking more and more likely every day. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh great, that's like the Marty Jannetty vs. Jim Neidhart of baseball matchups. And even worse, they're capital smallball offenders, so you can bet we'll be hearing about productive outs! Blah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2005 The latest useless poll on ESPN.com asked who the greatest pitcher of the 1980s was, presumably as a follow-up to Dwight Gooden's arrest yesterday. Here were the results as of 9 am ET: Ryan 53.1% Clemens 23.9% Gooden 12.6% Morris 8.8% Stieb 1.4% Ridiculous. Internet polls are so stupid. Ryan is probably no better than fourth out of 5 in reality. Is there a player out there who has more of an illusion surrounding his career than Nolan Ryan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2005 Aramis Ramirez hits the DL and Ronny Cedeno is recalled to ride the pine. I don't think I'll even bother watching today's game. Seeing a left side of the infield featuring Jose Macias and Neifi Perez is too depressing, especially against a contender. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2005 I'm seeing now that NOMAR is going to be playing third for the first time in his career. This could be interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2005 A Chicago-Anaheim ALCS is looking more and more likely every day. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh great, that's like the Marty Jannetty vs. Jim Neidhart of baseball matchups. And even worse, they're capital smallball offenders, so you can bet we'll be hearing about productive outs! Blah. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> At least in that scenario they MADE it there, which is more than I can say for the North Siders... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fishyswa Report post Posted August 26, 2005 "Ridiculous. Internet polls are so stupid. Ryan is probably no better than fourth out of 5 in reality. Is there a player out there who has more of an illusion surrounding his career than Nolan Ryan?" I've looked over some of his stats and really he just has a LOT of numbers. What exactly made him so mediocre? Growing up as a kid there was no one above Ryan in our minds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2005 I've looked over some of his stats and really he just has a LOT of numbers. What exactly made him so mediocre? Growing up as a kid there was no one above Ryan in our minds. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I never said he was mediocre. 300+ wins and 5,714 strikeouts would disprove that fairly quickly. In the eighties, though, he really only had two excellent seasons -- 1981 (11-5, 1.69, a no-hitter, 140 K in a strike-shortened year) and 1987 (2.96 ERA, 1.14 WHIP and 270 K, despite a very hard-luck 8-16 record). He never won more than 16 games in a year. His ERA was consistently around the league average, besides the two seasons I mentioned. And he had no top-3 Cy Young award finishes. Yet he's one of the three best pitchers that decade? Two of the guys I would throw into the discussion, Bret Saberhagen and Orel Hershiser, aren't even on the list! As for having a lot of numbers...well, when you pitch for 27 seasons, you're going to rack up a lot of numbers. He should have had a lot more than 324 wins for being such a great pitcher. Plus you have to look at some other numbers he racked up, like the all-time walk record (by over 960!!), or the fact that he has 3 of the 9 total 180+ walk seasons since 1900. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted August 26, 2005 or the fact that he has 3 of the 9 total 180+ walk seasons since 1900. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Barry Bonds and Babe Ruth have three each of the other six. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2005 A Chicago-Anaheim ALCS is looking more and more likely every day. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh great, that's like the Marty Jannetty vs. Jim Neidhart of baseball matchups. And even worse, they're capital smallball offenders, so you can bet we'll be hearing about productive outs! Blah. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> At least in that scenario they MADE it there, which is more than I can say for the North Siders... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ah, always the opportunist for taking the cheapshot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2005 Yeah the Jannetty comment was designed to be a compliment.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fishyswa Report post Posted August 26, 2005 "I never said he was mediocre. 300+ wins and 5,714 strikeouts would disprove that fairly quickly. In the eighties, though, he really only had two excellent seasons -- 1981 (11-5, 1.69, a no-hitter, 140 K in a strike-shortened year) and 1987 (2.96 ERA, 1.14 WHIP and 270 K, despite a very hard-luck 8-16 record). He never won more than 16 games in a year. His ERA was consistently around the league average, besides the two seasons I mentioned. And he had no top-3 Cy Young award finishes. Yet he's one of the three best pitchers that decade? Two of the guys I would throw into the discussion, Bret Saberhagen and Orel Hershiser, aren't even on the list! As for having a lot of numbers...well, when you pitch for 27 seasons, you're going to rack up a lot of numbers. He should have had a lot more than 324 wins for being such a great pitcher. Plus you have to look at some other numbers he racked up, like the all-time walk record (by over 960!!), or the fact that he has 3 of the 9 total 180+ walk seasons since 1900." Mediocre was my word, his numbers look like the product of just hanging around forever when you look back on them. I just couldn't understand why he became such a name in the first place, aside from the "fastest pitch ever" from a while back. Growing up mid-80's early 90's he was still, around the neighborhood, considered the greatest pitcher ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2005 Gary Anderson/Morten Andersen are considered two of the greatest kickers in NFL history. They played for 20+ years. It's easy to compile all those stats when you play for as long as they did. Same thing with Nolan Ryan, who I DO consider one of the best (You don't get 5,000 strikeouts with no talent). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted August 26, 2005 Hard thrower, no hitters, longevity, strikeouts all tend to get a lot of notice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2005 Yeah the Jannetty comment was designed to be a compliment.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But what did any of it have to do with the Cubs besides Czech being one of their fans? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2005 Jeff Conine owes Jason Vargas a steak dinner, tonight. He totally blew that play in the outfield, costing Vargas three earned runs. I came home from work and the Marlins were up 7-0. Now it's 7-5... they better not lose this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites