goldengreek 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 I have a feeling he actually will be there and help Hogan get the win and scewing hbk at the same time? Dont forget they will be releasing the Hitmans dvd soon. Great way too push the sales and promote it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 Bret has said he doesn't want to be on TV or in any angles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 If, by chance, Bret shows up at some point, it will probably be in one of two ways. 1) In a dark segment after a Raw or Smackdown where he just comes out and thanks the fans, etc, no real "angle" to build off of. 2) A long term built appearance on, most likely, a ppv in some non-wrestling non-angle capacity. Something like appearing at Survivor Series to do a speech, putting some closure to Montreal 97. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 Unless WWE has completely and utterly lost their minds, there is no way in hell Bret shows up on a WWE ppv unadvertised. That would be monumentally stupid. They will have proven that they are marks for the pop, and not marks about making the most money. And as bob barron and all the major wrestling newsletters pointed out, Bret has already said he doesn't want any part in storylines or angles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karc 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 Well, WWE backed themselves into a corner, as usual. If Bret shows, he's welched on his word that he wouldn't show up on TV. If he doesn't show, there will be a lot of pissed off people on Monday who bought the show in hopes of seeing him, since that was basically the point of Shawn's promo (slamming Bret and the Montreal fans was the only way he was going to get heel heat at this point). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 If he doesn't show, there will be a lot of pissed off people on Monday who bought the show in hopes of seeing him, since that was basically the point of Shawn's promo (slamming Bret and the Montreal fans was the only way he was going to get heel heat at this point). It's called bait and switch. This is not below the 'E' to do this sort of thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 From the Observer site... At least as of last night, there was no deal for Bret Hart at SummerSlam, nor at least up to yesterday, had he even been approached with a suggestion or idea that he show up at the show. It wouldn't shock me if an approach was made this week. He is scheduled to do a Q&A at the NWA Wrestling Legends Fanfest in Charlotte that would end when SummerSlam is beginning. Technically, it would be possible to charter a jet and have him do both. I doubt it would happen as his attitude is that he has no interest in playing a character on the WWE television show, and is even stronger that he would not do an angle playing off the 1997 Survivor Series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goldengreek 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 From the Observer site... At least as of last night, there was no deal for Bret Hart at SummerSlam, nor at least up to yesterday, had he even been approached with a suggestion or idea that he show up at the show. It wouldn't shock me if an approach was made this week. He is scheduled to do a Q&A at the NWA Wrestling Legends Fanfest in Charlotte that would end when SummerSlam is beginning. Technically, it would be possible to charter a jet and have him do both. I doubt it would happen as his attitude is that he has no interest in playing a character on the WWE television show, and is even stronger that he would not do an angle playing off the 1997 Survivor Series. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> [/quote Well that sucks huge balls Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dips 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 If, by chance, Bret shows up at some point, it will probably be in one of two ways. 1) In a dark segment after a Raw or Smackdown where he just comes out and thanks the fans, etc, no real "angle" to build off of. 2) A long term built appearance on, most likely, a ppv in some non-wrestling non-angle capacity. Something like appearing at Survivor Series to do a speech, putting some closure to Montreal 97. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No chance of it happening in a dark segment. That would be just as stupid as putting him on PPV without advertising it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 If, by chance, Bret shows up at some point, it will probably be in one of two ways. 1) In a dark segment after a Raw or Smackdown where he just comes out and thanks the fans, etc, no real "angle" to build off of. 2) A long term built appearance on, most likely, a ppv in some non-wrestling non-angle capacity. Something like appearing at Survivor Series to do a speech, putting some closure to Montreal 97. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No chance of it happening in a dark segment. That would be just as stupid as putting him on PPV without advertising it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not if it was in Montreal last night, or even better, at a show in Calgary. Or should I say at least it would make sense as that would cater to the fans of Bret more, being in his home country, etc. The point I was trying to make too in by doing that, WWE would not be making any money off a Bret appearance and Bret would not be catering to the WWE's storylines or anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karc 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 If he doesn't show, there will be a lot of pissed off people on Monday who bought the show in hopes of seeing him, since that was basically the point of Shawn's promo (slamming Bret and the Montreal fans was the only way he was going to get heel heat at this point). It's called bait and switch. This is not below the 'E' to do this sort of thing. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not below them, yes. Still wrong as hell, but not below them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benoit4hor 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 They could have Brets music hit, and send Teddy Hart out to screw HBK. Leading to a Teddy/HBK feud. Hell sign Michael Shane and have him get involved as well. But that would make for good matches, so it would never happen. Not to mention HBK would never agree to a feud with Teddy Hart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 I think WWE is trying to bait people into thinking Bret will be at SummerSlam, but I wouldn't buy it thinking it's going to happen... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 After last night I figure they have to do something with Bret. I mean they'd have to be utterly stupid to have Michaels do all that ranting about Bret and then not have some sort of payoff. I thought they might have Bret help Hogan when he is about to be "screwed" by Michaels. Not only would this play off of the Montreal screwjob but also of Bret's WCW debut at Starrcade 97 (which was also at the MCI Center). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Promoter 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 You know, I'm on the fence with this. I've read, seen, and heard from Bret's mouth that he wouldn't come back for anything unless it was to say good bye to the fans. This is all well and good, but I think we should put Bret in the category of all pro wrestlers here. How many have kept their word and not returned? The only person I can really say is friggin Bruno Sammartino. Sammartino has been approached many times and he still balks at Vince Mcmahon's requests for anything. The problem with Bruno is that his true fanbase perhaps is very minimal with today's product and he might be out of place. Bret on the other hand is a different story and we do know the man has an ego from the Montreal stuff and even before that with his "I don't make mistakes and I don't injure anybody" quotes in the past his ego must be going through the roof watching all this stuff go down on television. If they keep on teasing Bret and increase fans thirst to see the guy he will have an excuse that he came back because even his hardest critics wanted him to. Bret already asked at his website what fans would think if he came back months ago. Now some make valid points about here about not hyping Bret at the show, but in some ways they have. I forgot the point about Bret having his wcw ppv debut at the MCI Center. Personally, I would not have Bret come back at SummerSlam and I would just build HBK up even more as a heel and then put him against John Cena at Survivor Series. HBK has a book coming out in October and Bret's DVD supposedly is coming out around Survivor Series. I really do have a feeling they are building up to Survivor Series with some kind of storyline with HBK and Bret. NOW TO REALLY FLAME THINGS!!!! WrestleMania 22 is in Chicago and rumour has it they want Bret Hart inducted in the HOF. Now if Bret could have one last match(I know about all the stuff saying otherwise, but remember when HBK said the showstopper was dead and soon after he started feuding with HHH?**Also, just a few weeks back HBK went on record saying he wouldn't turn heel because of his religion and look what we got)wouldn't it be REALLY interesting if Bret and Shawn had their final showdown in Chicago. I mean it would be a decade since the ironman match and Chicago was suppose to be the place where the rematch was going to happen at WM 13. Of course, I know I'm just probably hyping myself up for a big dud where Bret doesn't come back and we get HHH/HBK 2,000,000 at Mania. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 Bret can't wrestle again. That's not speculation or Bret saying so; it's his condition saying so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BrokenWings Report post Posted August 16, 2005 Bret had a stroke. He's not wrestling. Period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Promoter 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 Yeah, I know, but remember I said to put Bret in the same category as all pro wrestlers. They don't listen. Austin was a prime example. Hogan is another one with his hip. Piper. Foley. Benoit with his neck condition. Paul Orndorff with his arm problem. Yokozuna with his weight problem. Kurt Angle at Mania 19. Remember Bret continuing that match at Maple Leaf Garden after being severly injured for a house show? The list is endless. Piper called it the "sickness" and on sports radio in Toronto, he kind of refrained from calling it that and stated that he now understands it a bit. He said that regular people don't understand wrestlers for doing this and when they leave and retire and explain this stuff to other people they don't understand. So, they come back to wrestling because the fraternity and brotherhood understand why they do this and can't get enough of it. I'm not saying the actual wrestling is for sure, but the wwe must know they are setting themselves up for a complete dud if they don't have Bret in a storyline somehow with all they are currently doing. Unless somehow HBK turns back face, but after last night it seems he turned it up a notch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 We're talking about a stroke here. Bret isn't wrestling again, period. Fantasy book all you want, but that's all it will ever be, a fantasy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Promoter 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 I never said this would happen. I'm stating that I wouldn't put it past Bret and Vince doing this with the past history of professional wrestling. Vince Mcmahon got Andre out of retirement supposedly for the Hogan match at Mania 3 with his health problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2005 But it isn't happening. At all. Ever. What does it take for people to accept that Bret is never wrestling again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Promoter 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2005 I accept that he's not wrestling. Where did it say otherwise? I'm just going off what could be going through the minds of Bret and Vince with that handshake and deal. They see dollar signs with a DVD and then start seeing dollar signs in other things that lead to other things. I mean who would have thought Hogan in 2002 would become champion one month after a match with Rock? Understand I'm going off these people's greed for the limelight and money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2005 Someone else try to get through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2005 To the people who want Teddy v. HBK: Teddy Hart sucks and would probably piss everyone off within 2 days. Understand I'm going off these people's greed for the limelight and money. Bret Hart + stroke= not wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted August 17, 2005 Those dollar signs in other things could never lead to cash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Promoter 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2005 Look at the topic of the thread. I don't think anyone here is really saying Bret is coming back for a match. What they are saying is Bret and the wwe could be thinking up ways to milk this for their own advantage and teasing a Bret match isn't above them even if it can't happen. Who knows if it will make them money, but it hasn't stopped them before has it? Again, read my posts again. I believe a storyline will come out of this not necessarily a match. The match was just to add flames on rumours that could start popping up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted August 17, 2005 There's never going to be a storyline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Promoter 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2005 There's never going to be a storyline. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Okay, we'll see! Just like people said HBK was never coming back and countless other things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2005 HBK never had a stroke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted August 17, 2005 I was one of those that did think HBK was coming back. Never once did I think that he wouldn't. Post #1000, god that's a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites