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The fuck is the "T.O Gimmick?" (and yes, I know what T.O stands for..)

 

If you know that T.O. stands for Terrell Owens, then you should know that he wanted out of San Fran, ended up in Baltimore for about a minute and a half before he bitched that he wanted to play for Philly or he'd sit. He got his way. Fast forward to him getting a broken ankle late in the season. The prevailing thought is he'd be done for the year. The Eagles made it to the Super Bowl, he came back against doctor's orders, gave a heroic performance in defeat and was a huge fan fave in Philly. . . . until he fired his agent, hired Drew 'The Shark' Rosenhaus and said he's sit if he didn't get a new contract. That's ALL NFL related stories/shows have focused on since the incident. He reported to training camp, got sent home, came back this week, and I think they just said he got sent home again, or injured.

 

Basically, the T.O. gimmick would be to be a monumental pain in the ass throughout negotiations, or what Austin did when he was the "most coveted free agent in the draft's history" a few years ago.

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I wonder if it will ever get to the point where a group of workers will ask to quit all at once (ala the Revolution/Radicalz guys in WCW), and Vince will either let them all go or finally be forced to take a look at the direction his company is going.

 

That's an interesting question. I can see it going either way. Either Vince wouldn't care, he'd become an on-air character again and we'd get a lot more Triple H & The Undertaker, or he would care, and it'd have to involve a helluva lot more than Sunday Night Heat fodder. It'd have to be, like, the current World Champion or some shit.

 

That's ALL NFL related stories/shows have focused on since the incident. He reported to training camp, got sent home, came back this week, and I think they just said he got sent home again, or injured.

 

Hey, that's not fair! They've been talking about preseason injuries, complete with speculation that preseason should be shortened a couple of games and "strength of schedules." :) Also: RANDY MOSS ADMITS TO SMOKING WEED OMFG!

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He's one of my favorite mic workers and he's done a very good job of creating a character for himself but come on people, stop crying like a talented wrestler got de-pushed. All it means is that he'll be working the chinlock with midcard intensity instead of main event intensity.

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Curry, while your chinlock comment did make me laugh, I'm not sure if this is so much a talented wrestler getting depushed as much as it is really, really bad business. I'll never understand why WWE won't push over wrestlers because they feel they're not ready/can't work main event style/whatever the fuck, but will push not-so-over wrestlers in trying to find the next Steve Austin.

 

I don't care much for Christian, and I actually like him fine in mid-card, but it's just stupid, stupid business.

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I wonder if it will ever get to the point where a group of workers will ask to quit all at once (ala the Revolution/Radicalz guys in WCW), and Vince will either let them all go or finally be forced to take a look at the direction his company is going.

 

TNA will have to get a lot more successful first. When Benoit et al jumped from WCW to WWE (well, WWF), it was obvious that WWE was on top and growing, whereas WCW was circling the bowl.

 

TNA unfortunately is nowhere near that level of success.

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I wonder if it will ever get to the point where a group of workers will ask to quit all at once (ala the Revolution/Radicalz guys in WCW), and Vince will either let them all go or finally be forced to take a look at the direction his company is going.

 

That's an interesting question. I can see it going either way. Either Vince wouldn't care, he'd become an on-air character again and we'd get a lot more Triple H & The Undertaker, or he would care, and it'd have to involve a helluva lot more than Sunday Night Heat fodder. It'd have to be, like, the current World Champion or some shit.

Vince would push Triple H and company even harder in an effort to prove that they are the real draws, and that he doesn't need the wrestlers who walked out. It would take Vince losing money or getting ratings so low that Raw or SD risk getting cancelled before he changes his direction.

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Besides, even if a bunch of wrestlers walked, there'd be hundreds of indy wrestlers perfectly willing to fill their shoes. There'd be a readjustment period, but ultimately nothing would change.

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Not that I think many people play the game, but they're not pulling Christian's new cards from the new Raw Deal expansion. He was slated to have a remake under the name "Captain Charisma" but they recently changed his new card to the name "CLB". They did this about a year ago, changing Edge's remake from "Adam Copeland" to "Leader of the Edge Army". Both name changes pretty much suck, but Christian will still be in the new set unless this is something that happened within the last 12 hours or so.

 

Word is that Christian remains very unhappy backstage about WWE ending his push so suddenly. WWE ShopZone has removed the "Captain Charisma" t-shirts and WWE has pulled the upcoming Christian cards from the "Raw Deal" card game. [PWInsider.com]

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I'm honestly starting to think that the WWE is trying to piss the fans off. Here's a  who got over without the company shoving him down our throats (unlike Randy Orton) so what do they do? They bury him because they don't think he's "worth it", because he managed to get over without the company's help. It's like the company is telling the fans "Fuck you for liking someone who we didn't tell you to like!"

 

Too true, both here and in U.S. entertainment in general, where all that counts is you being a good little sheep and believing in who the media tells you is talented, attractive, etc (how else can you explain Paris Hilton's rise to stardom, whilst there are so many people with real talent and really good programs that are/were wasted??????)

 

This is just the "NWO Sabotage" theory all over again...if you remember, anyone who wasn't NWO in 1997-98 and was over would end up being depushed and/or pulled off of television altogether. Then they'd have some cover-up explanation (i.e. Norman Smiley was taken off TV cause the "Big Wiggle was too offensive" or some such slop). I am just dying to know what's up here and what has happened to Christian. It'll probably be something stupid like the whole "missing the Secret Handshake with Droz" thing though, or refusing to offer to shine the Undertaker's shoes or whatever.

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Just gauging from what I saw people wearing and buying at the Smackdonw tapings I went to 2 weeks ago, Christian's shirt was seriously the #2 seller behind Batista. I'm glad I got mine at the show while they were still available.

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I didn't see many people with Christian shirts in Toronto last Tuesday. Maybe they weren't selling them.

 

..I saw more Cena shirts than anything, and he's not even on SD. I also saw a few people with Cena signs.. I guess they missed the draft lottery.

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I wasn't never really into Christian much, but if this isn't bullshit, I don't know what is.

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The fuck is the "T.O Gimmick?" (and yes, I know what T.O stands for..)

 

If you know that T.O. stands for Terrell Owens, then you should know that he wanted out of San Fran, ended up in Baltimore for about a minute and a half before he bitched that he wanted to play for Philly or he'd sit. He got his way. Fast forward to him getting a broken ankle late in the season. The prevailing thought is he'd be done for the year. The Eagles made it to the Super Bowl, he came back against doctor's orders, gave a heroic performance in defeat and was a huge fan fave in Philly. . . . until he fired his agent, hired Drew 'The Shark' Rosenhaus and said he's sit if he didn't get a new contract. That's ALL NFL related stories/shows have focused on since the incident. He reported to training camp, got sent home, came back this week, and I think they just said he got sent home again, or injured.

 

Basically, the T.O. gimmick would be to be a monumental pain in the ass throughout negotiations, or what Austin did when he was the "most coveted free agent in the draft's history" a few years ago.

Football is fake.

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I think there might be some big problems in the WWE locker room, even more than we know about here on the 'net. Every worker who quits or is fired from WWE makes it out to be a big huge pain in the ass company to work for. They hate the travel, the pay isn't as good as it's made out to be (since they have to cover their own expenses, etc), and it's all BS politics. It wouldn't surprise me if some guys would want to take the pay cut to go to TNA in order to help that company, and have a lighter travel schedule.

 

Look at guys like Spanky (granted, he's coming back). It didn't sound like he was begging for work. It sounds like he was doing just as well between his Japan and ROH bookings as he was in WWE. Molly Holly said in her shoot interivew that she was sick of all the traveling and the stupid dress code and political crap. Kazarian quit after a "now he's here, now he's not" stint with the company. There is life outside WWE, despite what Vince and friends would like wrestling fans and the wrestlers themselves to believe.

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I think there might be some big problems in the WWE locker room, even more than we know about here on the 'net. Every worker who quits or is fired from WWE makes it out to be a big huge pain in the ass company to work for. They hate the travel, the pay isn't as good as it's made out to be (since they have to cover their own expenses, etc), and it's all BS politics. It wouldn't surprise me if some guys would want to take the pay cut to go to TNA in order to help that company, and have a lighter travel schedule.

 

Look at guys like Spanky (granted, he's coming back). It didn't sound like he was begging for work. It sounds like he was doing just as well between his Japan and ROH bookings as he was in WWE. Molly Holly said in her shoot interivew that she was sick of all the traveling and the stupid dress code and political crap. Kazarian quit after a "now he's here, now he's not" stint with the company. There is life outside WWE, despite what Vince and friends would like wrestling fans and the wrestlers themselves to believe.

 

To an extent that is true, but wrestlers had it worst in the past. The old school guard such as Benoit and Jericho (raised in the proper understanding of how the business works) understand the sacrifices that the pioneers made to give them the loftier status they enjoy now.

 

I wouldn't expect an exodus anytime soon.

 

Brock Lesnar left WWE and it Vince hardly flinched. The product remained the same. There was no star bigger then Lesnar, except Triple H and Undertaker (in terms of company's value) and they aren't going anywhere. Lesnar's departure didnt faze WWE at all.

 

It would take Radicalz style exodus with 4 big names (let's face it the Radicalz got the "impact" because of Benoit, if Benoit's name wasn't a part of that exodus, WWE would not have made a big deal out of the arrival of Melenko, Saturn and Guerrero)

 

I don't predict any major name to leave and go to TNA. RVD, you would assume would jump to leave WWE but he didn't.

 

That shows right there that WWE is more comfortable for most of the workers then TNA would be.

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Lesnar's departure didnt faze WWE at all.

SD took a definite downturn after Lesnar left. Plus, we got that 9 month title reign by JBL that didn't exactly set the world on fire.

 

I meant in the office, they didnt take a look at the lost of their biggest star and their posterboy leaving almost suddenly as a telling sign that something may be wrong.

 

Instead they shruged their shoulders and created another monster heel to push.

 

Yes the product sucked and that was a result of both bad writing and Lesnar's departure but WWE(the company) didn't appear affected at all by the lost of Lesnar.

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. Molly Holly said in her shoot interivew that she was sick of all the traveling and the stupid dress code and political crap.

 

 

 

 

Did anybody write a recap of what she said or anything like that? I'd like to hear what she has to say.

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I wonder if it will ever get to the point where a group of workers will ask to quit all at once (ala the Revolution/Radicalz guys in WCW), and Vince will either let them all go or finally be forced to take a look at the direction his company is going.

 

Jericho, Christian, Benjamin, and Hasaan/Magnus = The New Radicals

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I wonder if it will ever get to the point where a group of workers will ask to quit all at once (ala the Revolution/Radicalz guys in WCW), and Vince will either let them all go or finally be forced to take a look at the direction his company is going.

 

Jericho, Christian, Benjamin, and Hasaan/Magnus = The New Radicals

Are they gonna get what they give?

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Fashion shoots with Beck and Hanson

Courtney Love and Marilyn Manson

Youre all fakes run to your mansions

Come around we'll kick your ass in

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