Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 You guys appearantly don't know your smear ads, as Daisy pretty much takes the cake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Next question: if you had your druthers, who would be your candidate for Prez in '08? Russell Feingold, I choose you! Obama would be a close second. Yes to Feingold, but Obama still hasn't really done anything, and who knows if he will? Uh oh Russ has been divorced twice, that's ammo for the religious right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 He's already taken some somewhat bold moves in the Senate, such as distancing himself from the DLC. Plus, the fact that he is so fresh and doesn't have a whole "he voted for 847 tax increases" record seems to be a plus these days. Hence, the recent preponderance of governor-cum-presidents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Next question: if you had your druthers, who would be your candidate for Prez in '08? Russell Feingold, I choose you! Obama would be a close second. Uh oh Russ has been divorced twice, that's ammo for the religious right <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Plus he's Jewish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 He's already taken some somewhat bold moves in the Senate, such as distancing himself from the DLC. Plus, the fact that he is so fresh and doesn't have a whole "he voted for 847 tax increases" record seems to be a plus these days. Hence, the recent preponderance of governor-cum-presidents. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's not terribly recent. Going by their last position before president: 2004, 2000: Bush, governor 1996, 1992: Clinton, governor 1988: Bush, VP 1984, 1980: Reagan, governor 1976: Carter, governor 1972, 1968: Nixon, VP 1964: Johnson, incumbent/VP 1960: Kennedy, senator 1956, 1952: Eisenhower, general 1948: Truman, incumbent/VP 1944/40/36/32: FDR, governor 1928: Hoover, sec. of commerce So yeah, the legislature is just not a White House farm team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Also, I can't count by 4, because I had to revise those years like twice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 I'll take this thing a little farther back. 1924: Coolidge - VP/incumbent 1920: Harding - Senator 1912/1916: Wilson, governor 1908: Taft, VP 1904: Roosevelt, incumbent/VP 1896/1900: McKinley, governor 1884/1892: Cleveland, governor 1888: Harrison, Senator 1880: Garfield, US House 1876: Hayes, Governor 1868/1872: Grant, general 1860/1864: Lincoln, US House 1856: Buchanan, Sec. of State 1852: Pierce, Senator 1848: Taylor, general 1844: Polk, Speaker of the House 1840: Harrison, Senator 1836: Van Buren, VP 1828/1832: Jackson, Senator 1824: JQ Adams, Sec. of State 1816/1820: Monroe, Sec. of WAR! 1808/1812: Madison, Sec. of State 1800/1804: Jefferson, VP 1796: J. Adams, VP 1789/92: Washington, general You have to go back over 100 years to see people go straight from Congress to the White House on a regular basis. Thus, Czech's right, the legislature isn't a presidential farm team...although the Congress spawns a lot of Vice Presidents. I'm not making a damn list, though. Also note that getting reelected in the 19th century was nearly impossible, thus Lincoln and Jackson looking even more impressive by comparison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Gore/Feingold vs. Cheney/Huckabee(or some other Republican governor who can help carry a state or three) would be neat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Except Gore is no longer a viable candidate for president, and Cheney is no longer a viable candidate for living. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 I thought I heard that Cheney was pretty set on running. Maybe it was BS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Cheney would have to briskly walk for president. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 The Daily Show has been on fire this week. They are doing a series on "intelligent design". The coverage of the Roberts hearings was especially hilarious...especially their rebuttal to Coburn's tear fit and crossword puzzle debacle. And Colbert's shock that "the Pubester" Clarence Thomas was a SC Justice. Oh yeah, and they had living legend Kurt Vonnegut on last night. Here's a link to some of the videos. http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_dai...ent/index.jhtml Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Except Gore is no longer a viable candidate for president, and Cheney is no longer a viable candidate for living. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Again, Gore is just as viable right now as Nixon was in the middle 1960s...and the same rubes that were fooled by Bush last November will gladly vote for Cheney in 08, and he realizes this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 CHENEY'S HEALTH IS A LIABILITY THE PARTY WILL NOT PUT MUCH STOCK IN HIM. Jesus. How many ways do I have to say it? Fundamental difference between Nixon and Gore: Nixon took his loss and that was that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 The family trusts Cheney to be the babysitter because he has no aspirations of his own. This thing either works out or he goes home. Although Fed-Up Cheney Enters Presidential Race Himself is a pretty good headline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2005 http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/bushnote.asp Dear lord. He has to ask Condi for permission to pee? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2005 I'm sure he was capable of waiting 7 minutes before being escorted out of the room by his staff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted September 16, 2005 http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/bushnote.asp In any case, that even U.S. Presidents have bodily functions is hardly the least bit remarkable. The only unusual aspect to these photos is that the public is not generally privy to mentions or visual reminders of that fact. Gold "Hey Butthead, you know what's funny?" "What?" "The President of the United States pinching a loaf..." "Huh huh huh..." "Heh heh heh..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted September 18, 2005 Fighting the Moral Decay of "Those People" by Hunter Sat Sep 17th, 2005 at 17:00:54 PDT Public drunkenness. Fighting with the police. Drug use, with few serious efforts at rehabilitation. Sexually-related breaking and enterings, and even international smuggling. See, this is the problem with America today. And yes, I know this post is going to be controversial on a liberal site, but I think we simply must recognize the problems with having those kind of people in our midst. I'm sorry, but this is a class thing. It needs to be talked about. It's small wonder we have a breakdown of law and order in this country, when this is the kind of rancid family histories we're dealing with. Is it simply bad parenting? These kids don't have many good role models to look up to -- if you've got noone in your family to look up to other than drug abusers, petty criminals, etc., I really don't see how you can help turning out the same way. Or is it deeper than that -- does genetics play a role? Is a lack of respect for the law more "hardwired" in some groups than others? What about drug abuse, surely some groups are more succeptable to it than others? I'm not sure, but perhaps it's time to administer some sort of tests and find out. Because I'm simply not sure this cultural "melting pot" that is America can stand the strain of all these wealthy white folks invading our neighborhoods and sending things all to hell: Florida Gov. Jeb Bush's ® youngest son, John Ellis Bush, "was arrested early Friday and charged with public intoxication and resisting arrest," the AP reports. He is a nephew of President Bush. "It's not the first time Florida's first family has experienced legal problems with one of their children." Noelle Bush was "sent to jail twice" for violating rules during her rehabilitation following a drug arrest. "She was jailed for three days in July 2002 after being caught with prescription pills and served 10 days a month later after being accused of having a small rock of crack cocaine in her shoe." Update: A Political Wire reader reminds us that the Bush family's legal trouble doesn't end there. The governor's oldest son broke into an old girlfriend's bedroom window. And Bush's wife, Columba, lied to customs officials a few years back. Sigh. I just don't know how many more of these people America can realistically absorb. They're infiltrating our government, and they already practically have a death grip on radio and television in this country. Lord knows the police won't touch them, since even the police fear the kind of retaliation these people make it a point to dish out. Tax breaks, lavish business incentives, separate schools -- nothing seems to be having an effect at raising these people out of their natural, debased state and up to the same standards as the rest of us. Is Malkin right? Should we be perhaps separating these folks out from the rest of society, in recognition of the inherent danger they are to our security, our stability, and our moral and social fabric? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Zaius 0 Report post Posted September 19, 2005 Is Malkin right? Should we be perhaps separating these folks out from the rest of society, in recognition of the inherent danger they are to our security, our stability, and our moral and social fabric? Can someone please direct me to a website that chronicles any of Michelle Malkin's more "interesting" quotes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted September 20, 2005 Is Malkin right? Should we be perhaps separating these folks out from the rest of society, in recognition of the inherent danger they are to our security, our stability, and our moral and social fabric? Can someone please direct me to a website that chronicles any of Michelle Malkin's more "interesting" quotes? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> www.bigottedrightwingcunt.com? Or is that Coulter's site....? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted September 20, 2005 www.bigottedrightwingcunt.com? Or is that Coulter's site....? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> www.bigotedrightwingcunt.com apologies in advance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2005 www.bigottedrightwingcunt.com? Or is that Coulter's site....? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> www.bigotedrightwingcunt.com apologies in advance <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I guess no one would be surprised if I said I found that hilarious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2005 Don't get too excited, I still like him more than you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2005 You never had to argue with him for 2 pages over the meaning of the word "clearly" because he kept insisting that word could be used to describe the outcome of the 2000 election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Zaius 0 Report post Posted September 22, 2005 Who's the more foolish? The fool or the fool who argues with him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianGuitarist 0 Report post Posted September 22, 2005 Who's the more foolish? The fool or the fool who argues with him? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hey-ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh! I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richard 0 Report post Posted September 24, 2005 on this day in history: Sep 23 1950 Congress passes the McCarran Act, also known as The Internal Security Act of 1950, overriding Harry Truman's veto. The act provides for severe restrictions on civil liberties, suspension of free speech, and placing of undesirable Americans in concentration camps. The act has never been repealed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted September 24, 2005 Some parts were repealed, others were ruled unconstitutional, but some are still with us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted September 24, 2005 Oh, yeah, I almost forgot about that. The airport here is named after a real fucker of a politician. Not only was he the BUTT buddy of Joe McCarthy, but he had a whole system of good ol' boys to help him control things and was possibly an anti-semite, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites