Warrior absolutely shreds WWE in Byte This reponse

[cameron chaos 0]

"I think you are forgetting Vince has approved necrophilia, animal cruelty and ingestion, a cancer storyline where the deceased's son surfed on the coffin, a character created in the wake of terrorist attacks around the world to get cheap heat, dozens of racially stereotypical characters and almost ran an incest storyline with the Beaver Cleavage character. I suppose you could include the graverobbing of Undertaker's parents, the DDP/Sara, Angle/Sharmell and Bischoff/Linda stalker storylines, HHH getting Steph drunk to marry and fuck her, Goldust the gimp, Trish the barking dog and a few other things in the list of tasteless shit Vince has approved. Oh, and the adultery storylines he books himself into every couple of years (Sable, Trish, Stacy). Then you also have Mae Young, Sexual Chocolate and the plastic hand, Victoria the psycho lesbian, Sable/Torrie the lesbians, Dawn Marie marrying and fucking Torrie's dad to get him out the way so she could try seduce Torrie, Heidenreich the poet and anal rapist, Viscera who beat up Trish because she wouldn't fuck him..."

 

It's a TV show, Warrior is a real person who actually believes the retarded shit he spews. Hardly comparable.

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You beat me to it, but that's totally dead on. The comparison is absurd.

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So someone making tasteless remarks out of spite is cannot be equated to taking part in and approving tasteless storylines that are depicted on TV before a worldwide audience?

 

As for the comparison being absurd, Vince uses real world events for storylines and characters frequently (90s Slaughter, Hassan the Arab-American and his "team", Edge/Lita/Hardy, the whole Montreal screwjob debacle that led to his Evil Boss character) so if it is just a TV show, McMahon should stick to intracompany storylines rather than try to use actual events in any way.

 

The WWE defines it own rules every now and then. Paul Bearer "dies" and is gone but The Undertaker is not arrested, John Cena violates a restraining order and gets carted off to jail, Undertaker "dies" and comes back, one day they support the troops the next they are trying to profit from a character created to milk current hatred of a certain religious group, one day Crash TV is dead and the next Kurt Angle is chasing after another man's wife even though they have mentioned in their own media that Angle has a wife and child, Angle slaps on a shitty toehold and gets a tap out, Daniel Puder nearly destroys his shoulder with a legit submission and it isn't even acknowledged. Their own inconsistency in regards to what is real, what isn't, what is acceptable, what's not, changes from situation to situation so to simply say "oh, it's just a TV show" is not really applicable. The Shield is just a TV show, WWE is what it wants to present itself as when it suits them. It wasn't so long ago they were talking about not being a wrestling company and instead being a "multimedia entity".

[Perfxion 0]

But it's a TV show. They are playing the part for people to buy tickets and see these people get beat up. Most times it works(the out there storylines excluded) but when someone who isn't on TV goes and mocks someone for having forms of cancer, then that person can go straight to hell.

 

Warrior and Vince having this pissing contest is comparable.

 

Using what is on RAW and Smackdown to somehow justify someone saying its good someone died of steroid abuse is not in the same ballpark. Its not even in the same league, its not even in the same fucking sport.

[Guest Fishyswa]

^Exactly. Vince uses reality to create fiction, he promotes characters, Warrior isn't promoting a character, he's promoting himself, and he happens to be a tasteless moron.

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Oh god. You pro-Vince people are just stupid. Vince uses the GUISE of TV shows to promote himself, to put himself over, to get his personal vendettas over, to exact revenge on people, ALL UNDER THE GUISE OF "Oh this is just a silly show." Vince IS a scumbag. Cameron Chaos has it correct.

[Guest Fishyswa]

Please, you make these character assumptions on what? How he handles his BUSINESS? Every assholish thing he does he does for the sake of his business, every retarded comment Warrior spews is just him pushing hate and a sad agenda. How do you even get to the point where you think a man runs a near-billion dollar corporation for the fun of fucking with people?

 

This whole 'Vince is evil' crap is annoying. He's just a corporate douche. Stop hating him just because he puts out a product sub-standard to the talent he has.

[Guest MikeSC]

Oh god. You pro-Vince people are just stupid. Vince uses the GUISE of TV shows to promote himself, to put himself over, to get his personal vendettas over, to exact revenge on people, ALL UNDER THE GUISE OF "Oh this is just a silly show." Vince IS a scumbag. Cameron Chaos has it correct.

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Vince has never mocked a person dying of cancer or a person who died from steroid abuse. You may not like the WRESTLING ANGLES he creates --- but Warrior insults REAL-LIFE dying/dead/gay people on a far too regular basis.

 

But, hey, Vince makes angles you find offensive, so the comparison MUST be apt.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

You know I'm surprised Warrior hasn't been committed yet.

[cameron chaos 0]

Oh god. You pro-Vince people are just stupid. Vince uses the GUISE of TV shows to promote himself, to put himself over, to get his personal vendettas over, to exact revenge on people, ALL UNDER THE GUISE OF "Oh this is just a silly show." Vince IS a scumbag. Cameron Chaos has it correct.

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Vince has never mocked a person dying of cancer

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No, he had The Big Bossman do it. Granted it was 2 years after Big Show's dad had actually died but cancer isn't something to be used for humour and entertainment to begin with. Neither is miscarrying a child but they've used that also.

 

As for insulting gay people, having Rico be portrayed as a "stylist" who got angry when a gay wedding didn't go to plan and then in the months that followed having run around skipping, wearing make up, pinching people's asses and kissing them is not insulting at all to gay people at all because every gay person does just that.

 

How do you even get to the point where you think a man runs a near-billion dollar corporation for the fun of fucking with people?

 

The guy wanted to put someone in a Panda suit on a UK PPV to get beatdown after he lost the WWF case. The guy has pulled down his pants on TV and made other people jam their faces in his BUTT crack. So yes, I think he is capable of that.

 

MX, I don't believe Warrior said it was a good thing Rude died, however the fact is his steroid abuse is believed to have contributed to an enlarged heart which led to his death. Had Rude not used steroids he wouldn't have developed the problem. Same goes for Bulldog.

 

Was their use of steroids responsible for their early deaths? Evidence points to the answer being yes. Is it politically correct for Warrior to mention this and show no pity after they have passed away? No. Does he have a point despite his ranting? Yes. Do I think he is 100% sane? No. I think he's a right wing nutbar. However kicking someone when they are down is not above the WWE either. I mean, shit, the proof is in the Warrior DVD.

[Black Lushus 0]

Vince mocks retards with Eugene...don't forget that, Anti-Vince folks...

 

HOWEVAH...I also fall into the "it's just TV" camp...but I'm not gonna argue, everybody has given valid points for their side of the arguement so we'll leave it at that...

[Guest Fishyswa]

'No, he had The Big Bossman do it. Granted it was 2 years after Big Show's dad had actually died but cancer isn't something to be used for humour and entertainment to begin with. Neither is miscarrying a child but they've used that also."

 

This is the problem. Big Show's dad died. Not Paul Wight's. Bossman surfed on Big Show's dad's casket, not Paul Wight's. It's fiction, just because it's portrayed in a live setting makes it no different from any other TV show. We're talking about art here when you get right down to it, and you can't censor art for it's intent to shock people.

 

On the Rude part, someone can't have a point aside from the ranting when the point is in that ranting. If I take a shit all over a great tasting cheeseburger, would you still eat it? No, because it's not a cheeseburger anymore, it's a pile of shit. He didn't just observe the connection between Rude's death and steroids, he took it much further than that.

 

Fiction, Reality. Two seperate things people.

[RedJed 0]

This is the easiest way to put things in perspective (hopefully):

 

No matter how out there the ideas are, Vince STILL is not personally and might I add, maliciously attacking people like Warrior does time after time over a public forum. Cmon people, Warrior fucking name calls and mocks people, dead or alive. Again I go back to the fact that the Warrior DVD wasn't an outright and malicious burial of him on a personal level - in fact they gave him credit where credit was due and tried to keep it fair and respectable (as respectable as possible I suppose).

 

There is no doubt Vince is no saint, but just because he approves, or fuck, even comes up with ideas that are outlandish, offensive, sexists, etc, etc - DOES NOT mean he is PERSONALLY jumping on people or places. Its like saying a guy that directs a horror movie and wants to make it as sick and gorey as possible - well then by default he just HAD to be a horrible person and has personal vendettas and ideas, visions, to do such acts that he puts out there on film in his own personal life. And to take that a step further, in relation to that, Warrior would be the one DOING those acts. Maybe its a goofy analogy but the point is that there should be no point in arguing this even - I cant believe some of you are this "smarkish" to not see the absurdity of what you are trying to compare here.

[cabbageboy 0]

Yeah but that is where it gets really weird. I mean that actually was Torrie's dad in that whole tasteless angle, right? I mean separating truth from fiction is easy enough in situations like the UT and Kane storyline where it is so crazy and sci fi that no one takes it seriously. I doubt many people truly think they are related or that Paul Bearer is Kane's dad or whatever.

 

But the Big Show's dad? Different issue. The Big Show actually IS Paul Wight, it's been mentioned on TV that he's Paul Wight, and it's perfectly plausible that his dad could die of cancer. I never had a huge problem with this angle mainly because the Bossman was portrayed in a highly negative light and Big Show kicked his ass eventually.

 

The times where these angles really are embarrassing is when someone does something bad and is then trumpeted as doing the right thing. Like Viscera squashing Trish because she refused to have sex with him...and then being booked as a FACE?

[cameron chaos 0]

If it is all a TV show, why do they present themselves as a serious sports company and maintain kayfabe at press conferences that are not going to be on TV? When a new season of a TV show is announced for say, Lost, when the press conference rolls around and it is promoted by the network the actors don't pretend to radio in from a desert island.

 

Paul Wight was Paul Wight when he debuted. I don't think he got the Big Show moniker for three weeks or so, so technically he has been shown as himself on TV. Al Wilson was indeed Al Wilson, Torrie's father. Same goes for Chavo Guerrero Sr, actually Chavo's dad. Eddie and Rey's families have been on TV before. Same with Foley's. If the wrestlers are just characters, let them be just that and don't mention or feature their real names, actual families or relatives. You don't see Donald Sutherland being mentioned on 24 or Ice-T being called by his given name on Law and Order: SVU, so if it is just a TV show, why do they try to blur the lines when it suits them? Obviously it causes confusion otherwise Rey's son wouldn't have got distressed as was reported recently. He'd have just said "I'm on TV!" to all his friends and not been bothered at all. Fiction, reality, not two distinct separate things in the WWE.

 

The only difference between Warrior being a dick and Vince being a dick is Vince pays other people to be involved in tasteless things for him. Unless it involves Bob Costas or a newly signed Diva.

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I'm not saying Warrior is in the right. I'm just saying that Vince isn't exactly a saint himself, and for people to try to downplay Vince's egosticial nature by saying it's just a fictional TV show is either clueless or naive or just plain stupid.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

Vince also covered up for someone who probably murdered his girlfriend, in addition to having a blind eye to all the rampant drug use in the company that killed the wrestlers earlier in their lives. One could argue about personal responsibility, but if he's pushing them to use it and offering ways for them to hide it and protect them from the law, I'd say he should shoulder some responsibility. Of course, instead of answering about his role in the situation he'd rather slap pint sized journalists around. Classy.

 

The point is that they're both assholes, but other than him saying stupid things, I've never heard of the Warrior actually DOING something harmful. Vince on the other hand, has made an asshole of himself on many occasions and hasn't shown any signs of that changing.

[Downhome 0]

I don't understand why in the hell this has turned into a Vince Vs. Warrior thread in the first place. It doesn't matter if Vince eats babies or gives people aids, nothing that Vince does or doesn't do changes the fact that Warrior is a bloody cunt on society.

[cameron chaos 0]

I don't understand why in the hell this has turned into a Vince Vs. Warrior thread in the first place. It doesn't matter if Vince eats babies or gives people aids, nothing that Vince does or doesn't do changes the fact that Warrior is a bloody cunt on society.

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In a way it's a "He who is without sin, cast the first stone" situation. Warrior may be a right wing loon with racist and homophobic tendencies, but so is Vince. However Vince had done a lot more tasteless and illegal shit in his time and has a PR department on his payroll. For him to try and present someone else in a negative light simply because they chose not to cooperate with him in the production process, irregardless how crazy or politically incorrect that person may actually be, is extremely hypocritical and further proof he is a scumbag ("He doesn't want to work with us on this? Fine, fuck him, get some of the boys to do impressions of him and talk shit, we'll make a DVD yet!").

[Downhome 0]

I understand people feeling like that, but I just can't. I know Warrior is a piece of shit just by what he says himself. I don't care who mocks him or who makes him look like an even bigger idiot.

[Guest deinly1]

Vince also covered up for someone who probably murdered his girlfriend, in addition to having a blind eye to all the rampant drug use in the company that killed the wrestlers earlier in their lives. One could argue about personal responsibility, but if he's pushing them to use it and offering ways for them to hide it and protect them from the law, I'd say he should shoulder some responsibility. Of course, instead of answering about his role in the situation he'd rather slap pint sized journalists around. Classy.

 

The point is that they're both assholes, but other than him saying stupid things, I've never heard of the Warrior actually DOING something harmful.  Vince on the other hand, has made an asshole of himself on many occasions and hasn't shown any signs of that changing.

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Could you please tell me where you got this information about Vince covering up for a murderer? Seriously, I'm not being sarcastic , I would just like to know more about it.

 

On the topic of Warrior vs Vince, who fired the first shot here? Was it Warrior when he was fired from WWF many years back? Because whoever started this whole propaganda is the one who's really to blame. I mean, if someone goes publicly insulting another isn't only fair play that he gets insulted in return? I have a hard time buying alot of Warrior's rants but that is only because he comes off as a ex- steroid freak who has the audacity to rip on Rick Rude's death which may have been a product of juice-abuse. In addition, comments made by people on Vince's payroll don't float with me either.

 

It's a case of Vince trying to make a buck off Warrior, just to stick it to him after Warrior tried to get over on Vince by leaving for WCW and taking pride in himself that he never was Vince's lapdog like many other wrestlers have become.

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He's referring to Snuka. He apparently pushed a girlfriend off a balcony or something and killed her.

[Dangerous A 0]

Could you please tell me where you got this information about Vince covering up for a murderer? Seriously, I'm not being sarcastic , I would just like to know more about it.

 

 

I believe he is referring to Vince's helping Jimmy "Superfly" Snuka and the mysterious way his girlfriend was murdered.

 

I know Vince helped him lawyer up and stuff, but am cloudy as to some of the other details. I know Snuka tried to kayfabe to the cops and act like he didn't speak english when they brought him in for questioning, that much I do know.

[Guest Fook_Theta]

Here's to hoping someone makes a "Mr. Puffy Man" sign that gets on TV for Raw Homecoming.

 

The sad part is that if the Warrior is correct in some of what that article outlines, then that means Bobby Heenan is a bit of a cunt. Well I guess that is why is was so good at doing color commentary.

[Guest deinly1]

Oh, its was SNUKA, I really thought he meant someone murdered Vince's girlfriend and he swept it under the rug. Thats because in Warriors rant he talks about Vince having a "adulterous ball licking" Mrs. Feinburg or someone with him after Summerslam.

Come to think of it, Superfly getting arrested and trying to act like he couldn't speak english is somewhat familiar.

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Yes Emily Feinberg was Vince's personal secretary who Vince had an extramarital affair with in the 1980s-1990s. She was a key witness in the steroids trial.

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FOR VINCE MCMAHON, THE HUNDRED MILLION Dollar Man, Jimmy (Superfly) Snuka made for a challenging tag-team partner. The World Wrestling Federation’s second-most-popular star in the early eighties, Snuka was an illiterate immigrant from Fiji, prone to bouts with the law that threatened his green card, and a drug abuser who often missed bookings. During a Middle East tour in the summer of 1985, fellow wrestlers say, customs officials in Kuwait caught him with controlled substances taped to his body, and he was allowed to leave the country only after some fancy footwork.

 

But Snuka’s near-Midnight Express experience in the Persian Gulf was child’s play compared to what happened on May 10, 1983. That night, after finishing his last match at the WWF TV taping at the Lehigh County Agricultural Hall in Allentown, Pennsylvania, he returned to Room 427 of the George Washington Motor Lodge in nearby Whitehall to find his girlfriend of nearly a year, Nancy Argentino, gasping for air. Two hours later, this 23-year-old wrestling fan – who'd worked as a dentist’s assistant in Brooklyn and dropped out of Brooklyn Community College

to travel with Snuka – was pronounced dead at Allentown Sacred Heart Medical Center of “undetermined craniocerebral injuries.”

 

“Upon viewing the body and speaking to the pathologist, I immediately suspected foul play and so notified the district attorney,” Lehigh County Coroner Wayne Snyder told me on a recent trip to Allentown. In ’83, Snyder was deputy to Coroner Robert Weir.

 

Yet no charges were filed in the case, no coroner’s inquest was held, and no evidence was presented to a grand jury. Officially the case is still open – meaning Argentino’s death was never ruled either an accident or a homicide – though the original two-month-long investigation has been inactive for nine years. Under Pennsylvania’s unusually broad exemptions from freedom of information laws, the Whitehall Township Police Department has so far refused my requests for access to the file.

 

Of particular interest would be two documents: the autopsy and the transcript of the interrogation of Snuka immediately thereafter. One local official involved in the investigation, as well as one of the Argentino family’s lawyers, told me the autopsy showed marks on the victim other than the fractured skull. And former Whitehall police supervisor of detectives Al Fitzinger remembered that the forensic pathologist, Dr. Isadore Mihalakis, confronted Snuka to ask him why he’d waited so long before calling an ambulance. Gerald Procanyn, the current supervisor of detectives, who worked on the case nine years ago, maintained that Snuka cooperated fully with investigators after being informed of his right to have a lawyer present, and was accompanied only by McMahon. Another investigator, however, saw things differently; he said Snuka invoked his naïve jungle-boy wrestler’s gimmick as a way of playing dumb. “I’ve seen that trick before,” the investigator said. “He was letting McMahon act as his mouthpiece.”

 

Another curious circumstance was the presence at the interrogation of William Platt, the county district attorney. According to experts, chief prosecutors rarely interview suspects, especially in early stages of investigations, for the obvious reason that they may become witnesses and hence have to recuse themselves from handling the subsequent trials.

 

Detective Procanyn gave me the following summary of Snuka’s story: On the afternoon before she died, Snuka and his girlfriend were driving his purple Lincoln Continental from Connecticut to Allentown for the WWF taping. They’d been drinking, and they stopped by the side of the road – the spot was never determined, but perhaps it was near the intersection of Routes 22 and 33 – to relieve their bladders. In the process, Argentino slipped on mossy ground near a guard rail and struck the back of her head. Thinking nothing of it, she proceeded to drive the car the rest of the way to the motel (Snuka didn’t have a driver’s license) and, after they checked in, picked up take-out food at the nearby City View Diner. Snuka had no idea she was in any kind of distress until he returned

late that night from the matches at the Agricultural Hall. Procanyn said Snuka’s story never wavered, and no contradictory evidence was found.

 

Curiously, contemporary news coverage, such as the front page of the next day’s Allentown Morning Call, made no mention of a scenario of peeing by the roadside; it focused, instead, on the question of whether Argentino fell or was pushed in the motel room. Nine years later the reporter, Tim Blangger, vividly recalled that at one point in his interview of Procanyn, the detective grabbed him by the shoulders in a speculative reenactment of how Snuka might have shoved the woman more strongly than he intended.

 

Procacyn also claimed to have no knowledge of any subsequent action by the Argentino family, except for a few communications between a lawyer and D.A. Platt over settling the funeral bill. In fact, the Argentinos commissioned

two separate private investigations, and it’s difficult to believe that Procanyn was unaware of them. The first investigator, New York lawyer Richard Cushing, traveled to Allentown, conducted extensive interviews, and aggressively demanded access to medical records and other files. “It was a very peculiar situation,” Cushing told me. “I came away feeling Snuka should have been indicted. The police and the D.A. felt otherwise. The D.A. seemed like a nice enough person who wanted to do nothing. There was fear, I think, on two counts: fear of the amount of money the World Wrestling Federation had, and physical fear of the size of these people.”

 

Even so, Cushing declined to represent the family in a wrongful-death civil suit against Snuka. The lawyer cited the fact that Snuka and Argentino weren’t married, that they didn’t have children, and that she wasn’t working, which would make it difficult to establish loss of consortium. “Moreover, Vince McMahon made it clear to me that her reputation would be besmirched. As a lawyer, I had to determine if a contingency [fee] was in order; my business decision, not my moral judgment, was no. The family wasn’t pleased. They had a typical working-class

family’s anger that justice wasn’t done.”

 

Through the generosity of Nancy Argentino’s father’s boss, the family then retained a Park Avenue law firm. The report filed by its private investigator shows that Snuka was as creative outside the ring as he was inside it. To the Whitehall police officer who responded to the first emergency call, Snuka said “he and Nancy were fooling around outside the motel room door when he inadvertently pushed Nancy and she fell striking her head.” An emergency

room nurse heard him state that “they were very tired and they got into an argument resulting in an accidental pushing incident. Ms. Argentino fell back and hit her head.” In the official police interrogation, Snuka first floated the peed-on-the-roadside theory. Finally, in a meeting with the hospital chaplain, he said he and Argentino had been stopped by the side of the road and had a lovers’ quarrel: “He accidentally shoved Ms. Argentino who then fell backwards hitting her head on the pavement. They then arrived at the motel and went to bed. The next

morning Ms. Argentino complained that she was ill and stayed in bed…. When he came home from the taping, he observed that Ms. Argentino was clearly in bad shape.”

 

In 1985 the Argentinos obtained a $500,000 default judgment against Snuka in U.S. District Court in Philadelphia. The family never collected a dime; Snuka’s lawyers withdrew from the case, stating that they hadn’t been paid, and Snuka filed an affidavit claiming he was broke and unemployed and owed the IRS $75,000 in back taxes. Since ’83, the 49-year-old Snuka has been in and out of rehab centers and has wrestled off and on both in Japan and throughout this country. His original WWF stint extended two and a half years past Argentino’s death; his most recent ended earlier this year. According to the wrestling grapevine, he’s now trying to promote independent shows in, of all places, Salt Lake City, but my efforts to track him down there were unsuccessful.

 

Proving negligence, of course, is different than proving involuntary manslaughter or murder. But critics of the criminal investigation find fishy the failure of the police to examine seriously Snuka’s history of drug abuse and violence against women. Former wrestling great Buddy Rogers, who’d been hired by McMahon to serve as Snuka’s TV “manager” and to get him to important matches on time, said he stopped driving with the Superfly after he brazenly snorted coke when they were in the car together. “Jimmy could be a sweet person, but on that stuff he

was totally uncontrollable,” said Rogers, who was also Snuka’s neighbor on Coles Mill Road in Haddonfield, New Jersey. Snuka’s wife, with whom he had four children, befriended Rodgers’ wife. “Jimmy used to beat the shit out of that woman,” Rogers said. “She would show up at our house, bruised and battered. But she couldn’t leave him – he had her hooked on the same junk he was using.”

 

Nancy Argentino’s younger sister remembered once being threatened by Snuka when they were alone at the family’s home in Flatbush. “I could kick you and put my hands around your throat and nobody would know,” he allegedly said. After Nancy’s death, family members said, they received a series of phone calls from a woman who identified herself as a former Snuka girlfriend who’d tried to warn Nancy away from him. Snuka, said the woman, had once broken her ribs, and had a thing about pushing women back against walls.

 

Finally, there was the incident involving Snuka and Argentino at a Howard Johnson’s in Salina, N.Y., outside Syracuse, just three months before Allentown. The motel owner, hearing noise from their room, called the police, who found Snuka and Argentino running naked down the hallway. It took eight deputy sheriffs and a police dog to subdue Snuka. Argentino sustained a bruise of her right thumb. Snuka pleaded guilty to violent felony assault with

intent to cause injury, received a conditional discharge on counts of third-degree assault, harassment, and obstruction of a government official, and donated $1,500 to a deputy sheriffs’ survivors’ fund. Whitehall police later decided this was all the result of “a nervous desk clerk,” Detective Procanyn told me.

 

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ACCORDING TO ATTORNEY CUSHING, MCMAHON MADE a remark at one point in their discussions that was at once insightful and chilling. “Look, I’m in the garbage business,” the promoter said. “If you think I’m going to be hurt by the revelation that one of my wrestlers is really a violent individual, you’re mistaken.”

 

Six months after Nancy Argentino died, the Village Voice ran a prescient article entitled “Mat Madness” by the late columnist Arthur Bell, weather vane of the lower-Manhattan gay-arts demimonde. After attending a Madison Square Garden show headlined by a bout between Superfly Snuka and The Magnificent Muraco, Bell, who knew next to nothing about wrestling, commented on the spectacle’s graphic references to bodily functions and on its barely sublimated undercurrents of sexual dominance and sadomasochism. “Take my word,” Bell declared, “by the

end of 1984 wrestling will be the most popular sport in New York since mugging.” He concluded with a vignette at the Garden stage exit, where a swarm of fans, led by a woman named Bea from West Orange, converged to taunt the wrestlers as they emerged in their street clothes.

 

“Hey, Superfly,” Bea shouted to Snuka. “You goddam fuckin’ murderer. When are you gonna kill another girl?”

 

Credit: http://www.cactusjack.co.uk/superfly.html

 

There you go, Dangerous A.

[The Mandarin 0]

I know Snuka tried to kayfabe to the cops and act like he didn't speak english when they brought him in for questioning

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..I think that was a shoot.

 

 

The sad part is that if the Warrior is correct in some of what that article outlines, then that means Bobby Heenan is a bit of a cunt. Well I guess that is why is was so good at doing color commentary.

 

Warrior just has beef with Heenan because Heenan's always putting him down for good reason. Heenan saw first hand what a psychopath Warrior was when he was managing Andre during his matches with Warrior (in which Warrior tried to mess up Andre's back and neck even more). By all accounts, he isn't an asshole in general.

 

I enjoyed Warrior calling Jim Ross "crazy and delusional".

[Guest deinly1]

Big props for finding and posting that CAMERON CHAOS. A very interesting read to say the least. Looks like Snuka was a cokehead wife-beating killer.

Hope this ain't hijacking the thread but, did you read the part where it took 8 guys and a dog to bring down a coked-up Superfly?

On the subject of coke, someone said earlier that Warrior always looked like that, I can't agree more, watching him run down the aisle and shake the ropes, I always thought even at the age of 8, "what is this guy on?"

[Guest rawmvp]

I'm going to take a sign to RAW that says:

 

LINDA

FEARS

EMILY FEINBERG

 

or

 

BRING BACK EMILY FEINBERG

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Oh yeah, another wonderful testament to Vince's character: He was accused of rape by a former bookkeeper turned female referee named Rita Chatterton. Apparently they were in Vince's limo and Vince basically pulled down her pants and hoisted her onto him and began satisfying himself through intercourse. (credit: Sex, Lies and Headlocks)

[El Psycho Diablo 0]

I enjoyed Warrior calling Jim Ross "crazy and delusional".

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Except Ross -is- delusional, at least in the wrestlers he thinks have "talent". Just how many times did he call Billy Gunn the best athlete in the business, any way?