Guest Korgath Report post Posted September 28, 2005 Let them be proud for just a few moments that the energetic, intense and colorful Ultimate Warrior persona they loved when they were little kids didn't become a self-pitying, disappointing, broken-down has-been like all the other brittle-minded skeletons traipsing around your locker rooms or now buried in forgotten about graves. You've gotta admit... that statement alone shows that Warrior knew his fanbase better than Vinny Mac ever did... ...even though he was fudging the truth just to prove his point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted September 28, 2005 Warrior is, as per usual, a self-delusional egomaniac who mistakes pointless rambling for intellectual discourse. If he came back, his pop would be non-existant. Why do I say that? Because it was in 1996. And 1998 in WCW. The man has burned every bridge he had in the business. You can laugh "How can HHH call anybody unprofessional" --- but who the hell did Warrior ever make look good in the business? Who the hell did Warrior ever do anything to try and make look good? "It's about time somebody called Vince on his crap"? More precisely, it's time somebody called WARRIOR on the utter shit he's said and posted for the last 6 years. The man's next intelligent comment will be his first and Vince's "attacks" never have EVER been even a fraction as personal as Warrior's. I am stunned that a blatant homophobe and somebody who fucking mocks cancer patients and parapalegics is considered to be "not that bad" in comparison to Vince McMahon, whose biggest crime, apparently, is shredding Warrior without ever slandering him (Warrior has had few qualms with suing WWF in the past --- but he hasn't HERE. Don't you think there's a reason?). Hell, I'm a pretty conservative guy and I think this guy is a right-wing douche. Fuck Warrior and everything he claims to stand for. He burned his own bridges and he's now a nobody trying, desperately, to live off the glory he believes he once had. He was a disaster as a draw and one of the most inept workers the business has ever churned out. If Vince ever does business with him again, he deserves the anal raping Warrior will no doubt provide him, "queering don't make the nation work" be damned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 I'm still trying to understand of HHH tries to be Warrior. Is it because of the body? Because HHH does nothing even similar to Warrior. This douchebag is a dislusional fool. The insults he comes up with are just ridiculous. -Saying JR didn't sell one seat. Well no fucking shit. He's a wrestling commentator you idiot! He's there to supplement the show, not sell seats. Oh, and he got a gay insult in there. Congrats! -Oh, the young guy insults. These are gold. ...even some of the new, talentless, uncharismatic punks Who are you referring to? Please say it's Jericho, Christian, Edge (did he comment on the DVD?), ect. Because niether of the three are new, any less talented that Warrior, or uncharismatic. And it’d be to your misfortune if I was traveling through some airport in this country one day and happened to see you standing there surrounded by little sexpot groupies and adoring fans, and I just took it upon myself to approach you, not to pick a fight but to ask you to explain your ridicule of me, and suddenly you couldn’t speak and started to go to the bathroom all over yourself. Let me tell you from my own life experiences, there’s nothing so intimidating and embarrassing as another human being who can kick your ass with their mind. I would so love Warrior to try this shit. Because I'd be wetting myself if I'm an in shape wrestler over some guy who is FUCKING INSANE, especially if there are fellow wrestlers around me or you know, airport security. A mental ass kicking? What a handicap match that'd be against anyone of these "new, talentless, uncharismatic punks". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 It's really very sad that these two grown adults can't at least display a tiny bit of humility and gratitude when addressing the other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fishyswa Report post Posted September 28, 2005 Warrior is crazy. Vince wants to sell the crazy. This is what happens when he does. More crazy. Personally I always thought Warrior was boring, I hated his "finisher", and he always seemed coked up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CheesalaIsGood 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 I'll still take a thousand HHH matches over ANY Warrior match. Period. And since its the hip thing: HHH > Warrior Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 the only Warrior matches I enjoyed were because of the OTHER guy...and that includes Hogan: both Rude matches in 89 Hogan at WM6 Savage at WM 7 is probably his best Savage again at S.Slam 92 Sure I loved the guy when I was young, but those 5 matches are the only ones I can watch still to this day... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slabinskia 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 I watched the warriar shoot interview and read this.Warriar makes a few good points but he comes across as being very crazy and some of his comments are so offensive that his good points seem meaningless. I don't remember warriar putting anyone over but he has 4 people to thank for puttig him over in big matches. 1988:Honky tonk man jobs the ic title to warriar in 30 seconds to begin the monster push. 1989:Rick Rude has a series of matches with warriar and makes him look like a decent worker. 1990:Hogan jobs clean(hogan rarely if ever did clean jobs back then) to warriar for the world title to make him look like a million bucks. 1991:After having a bad run with the belt,Randy Savage jobs to warriar in the best match he has ever had. BTW,Kevin Nash said in his shoot interview that vince wanted him to job to warriar in 96 before going to wcw. Nash responds:"I'll put him over if he can beat me in a shoot fight". Vince:I guess we can forget the warriar job then. That would have been fun to see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 I'd put Savage vs Warrior up against any HHH match, ever. Just sayin'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 I'd put Savage vs Warrior up against any HHH match, ever. Just sayin'. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> While that's true, HHH has had several matches on par with that one, and better than Warrior's second-best match ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 I'm glad that we have posters here like MikeSC and CanadianChick. How anyone can take up for Warrior, I'll never know. He's about a low as a person can get, seriously. What a piece of shit scumbag this guy comes across as here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Annabelle 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 he made tasteless comments, but i think the warrior is onto something in his descriptions of triple h, jim ross, and especially vince. vince is a bully. he's made o living out of treating people like garbage. warrior has lot his mind, and we all get to reap the benefits. i think this is great. i bet vince does, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 WWE, with its millions of dollars, its hundreds of employees and its disturbing obsessive attention to a talent that has not worked for them for nearly 10 years... Who are they talking about? I would think Warrior, but they haven't done anything on him until now, I would hardly call that obsessive... Bret Hart, possibly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 The last time Warrior appeared on WWE was 1996. This year is 2005, almost 10 years. The last time Bret Hart appeared on WWE was 1997, which is 8 years. Methinks he's talking about himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 You know as much as I hate the Warrior, this was fucking great! Especially: Only if you were on fire would I help you -- it'd just be too hard to resist pissing on you. TAG! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 Yes, of cours it's Bret Hart. Speaking of Hart, didn't Warrior mock his stroke as well? The man is scum, just scum. You'd have to be to mock the handicapped, homosexuals, sick people with or who had cancer, stroke victims, and on and on. Not to mention the statements he made about Rick Rude. It's perfectly fine to hold things against people like this, I'm not saying that these are reasons that these people should be seen in a different light either. I'm just saying that he's shit for not being able to speak out against people, without taking such shots as this. Vince, even with all of his sins (and God knows that he's done his fair share of offensive things), but when talking about other people he doesn't resort to such bullshit as this. Usually he's seen as a horrible person for his business dealings. I don't think Vince McMahon, the man (not the character or businessman), would say things like this about people in order to make a point. It's easy to see which of the two guys have the brains, between Warrior and Vince. Warrior could have went along with the project, and could have really been praised a lot more. God knows this would have been a totally different DVD. For Vince though, it didn't matter one way or the other. Vince didn't need Warrior. Hell, it might be best that Warrior didn't take part, because the DVD is selling out everywhere, and the fact that it's a DVD bashing the guy more than likely has a lot to do with that. It makes Warrior look worse since this is just him saying these things on his own terms, on his own website, so it's obvious that this is really how he thinks, this is really honest to God how this fucking retard thinks. I was a fan of the guy when I was younger, and even marked out for his returns to the ring, but I know shit when I smell it, and whenever Warrior sticks his head out of whatever hole he resides in now, I sure as hell can smell it. Isn't Warrior the reason that Ric Flair is half deaf in one ear as well? I think he did it by screwing up a clothesline of all things. Ugh. It also says a lot about someone, and I don't care who you are, when Hulk Hogan carries you to your best (or second best, depending on how you look at it) match of your career. I mean...really. I'm glad the guy believes in karma, because he's about due. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 What's crazy to think about is that the Bret Hart DVD was originally supposed to be on this level of burial before he signed on to do it. They already had negative interviews with McMahon, Lawler, J.R., HBK, and Hogan that they trashed when Hart signed on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 And they had interviews that were positive about bret from other people. And seriously, FUCK Warrior with a rusty pipe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 And they had interviews that were positive about bret from other people. And seriously, FUCK Warrior with a rusty pipe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 They already had negative interviews with McMahon, Lawler, J.R., HBK, and Hogan that they trashed when Hart signed on. Actually in regards to JR, I heard he, along with Benoit, refused to say anything bad about Bret while the interviewer tried to get Piper to say bad things about Bret with loaded questions and Piper started picking up on it. The others trashed him, HBK, HHH, and Hogan in particular. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 I watched the warriar shoot interview and read this.Warriar makes a few good points but he comes across as being very crazy and some of his comments are so offensive that his good points seem meaningless. I don't remember warriar putting anyone over but he has 4 people to thank for puttig him over in big matches. 1988:Honky tonk man jobs the ic title to warriar in 30 seconds to begin the monster push. 1989:Rick Rude has a series of matches with warriar and makes him look like a decent worker. 1990:Hogan jobs clean(hogan rarely if ever did clean jobs back then) to warriar for the world title to make him look like a million bucks. 1991:After having a bad run with the belt,Randy Savage jobs to warriar in the best match he has ever had. BTW,Kevin Nash said in his shoot interview that vince wanted him to job to warriar in 96 before going to wcw. Nash responds:"I'll put him over if he can beat me in a shoot fight". Vince:I guess we can forget the warriar job then. That would have been fun to see. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Spelling is our friend: W A R R I O R Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golgo 13 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 As is proper spacebar usage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 Oh for christ sake, you knew what they were saying. Its not like its unreadable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 As is proper spacebar usage. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Which is why I said 'spelling' and not 'typing.' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 Oh for christ sake, you knew what they were saying. Its not like its unreadable. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry, I'm just not a big fan of the whole write-like-an-idiot-just-because-it's-the-internet thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jumpingbombangel Report post Posted September 28, 2005 I am glad he responded. It just makes everything all that much more interesting. Warrior is crazy but he knows how to keep his name in the spotlight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 I don't even understand how they could release an entire DVD bashing Bret, I really don't. With Warrior though, I almost don't see how they could do an entire DVD praising the guy. They should include all of the trashed interviews about Bret, all the while having the Benny Hill music being played over them all. Maybe as a special feature or an easter egg, and then explain why they were recorded and then trashed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 I guess I look at the "who did who wrong" like this. Has any rebuttal from Warrior in terms of what would be percieved fact from WWE (lets use the part where Warrior left after SS 91) been even proven by Warrior to be bullshit? If he would and could document and prove such accustations and sticky situations that happened in WWE during any of his runs, I'd love to see them as all I keep seeing is him making up some nonsensical stories, essentially just throwing shit back and them and seeing if it sticks. Plus for those who actually saw the Warrior DVD, I didnt even feel it was THAT much of a burial, at least wasnt as bad as I expected. Ross and others gave him credit when credit was due for having a unique charisma, etc. Meanwhile, Warrior name calls and generally resorts to immature attacks on anyone and everyone in the company, current or past - be it Todd Grisham and Droz, or whoever. So the way I look at it is this: WWE: Valid points and reasons WHY he sucks ass. Hell even Heenan, granted he went a little overboard on the hate, but he had a completely valid point about the Warrior not protecting his fellow workers, as they showed Warrior straight up unprotecting Heenan during a press slam spot, I believe at Mania V. Warrior: Using typical political style tactics to draw attention away from the situations in question that he was accused for. He didnt address HHH's accusations at all regarding the Mania 12 match, and instead just name called him and moreless turned into an annoying smark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 It doesn't matter who did who wrong in my opinion. Even if what Warrior says is true, about not holding out for more money like Vince said he did, it doesn't matter one bit to me. Not when he acts like such a retard by saying the things about people like he seems to love to do all the time. Even if he was a perfect guy behind the scenes in the wrestling business, and was never any trouble at all, that still doesn't mean he isn't a shitty human being, as a person as a whole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 Vince and Warrior are two of the lowest scums on Earth and frankly I don't listen to a damn thing either one of them says cause you can smell of the bullshit as soon as they open their mouth. They both have an extreme God complex mixed in with a "I'm blameless, it was him" mental. They should both just fuck already and see about a gay marriage in New Mexico. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites