Guest Brian Report post Posted October 4, 2005 UFC AND SPIKE TV ANNOUNCE “ULTIMATE FIGHT NIGHT™” POST WEIGH-IN RESULTS Las Vegas, NV (Oct. 2, 2005) – The Ultimate Fighting Championship® (UFC®) organization and Spike TV today held the weigh-in event for Ultimate Fight Night™ live from Las Vegas poolside at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino. All the fighters on the card, including the main event matchup Evan Tanner vs. David Loiseau, stepped on the scale between 4:00 – 4:30pm/PT. Ultimate Fight Night live takes place tomorrow night, Oct. 3, 2005, live in Las Vegas from the Joint at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino. The live undercard action starts at 7:15pm ET/4:15pm PT. Spike TV will telecast the event live nationally starting at 9:00pm ET/PT. Following is the list of fighters and official weigh-in results: [lbs.] (record x-x) MAIN EVENT – Middleweight non-title fight (170-185 lbs.) Evan Tanner [186] (33-5) vs. David “The Crow” Loiseau [185] (10-2) Co-Features Middleweights Chris “The Crippler” Leben [185] (13-1) vs. Edwin Dewees [184] (31-7) Welterweights Josh Koscheck [170](7-0) vs. Drew “The Master” Fickett [171] (27-3) Undercard Heavyweights Fabiano Scherner [257] (5-1) vs. Brandon Vera [225] (4-0) Welterweights Thiago Alves [170] (13-2) vs. Spencer Fisher [167] (15-1) Welterweights Jonathan Goulet [169] (13-5-1) vs. Jay Hieron [168] (7-1-0) Brock Larsen [184] (12-0) vs. Jon Fitch [185.5] (13-2-0-1) *Card subject to change The Ultimate Fight Night main event features Evan Tanner, former UFC middleweight champion, versus the high-flying Canadian Champ, David “The Crow” Loiseau. The line-up also includes Chris Leben and Josh Koscheck, stars from the hit reality series The Ultimate Fighter™ Season 1. The main event is a sizzling match up between two skilled fighters with equal striking power. Evan Tanner, a veteran fighter with vicious ground elbow strikes is determined to fight his way back to a UFC middleweight championship. Tanner will have to tangle with David Loiseau, one of the most dangerous strikers ever to set foot in the Octagon™. Loiseau is an excellent striker known for having some of the most feared elbows in the sport, and spectacular jumping and spinning back kicks. As co-features, ultimate fighters Chris “The Crippler” Leben and Josh Koscheck will battle against Edwin Dewees and Drew Fickett, respectively. Leben, one of the most controversial fighters on the first season of The Ultimate Fighter, is a force to be reckoned with inside the Octagon™. Coming off a recent win at Ultimate Fight Night™ 1, Leben is looking to continue his winning streak against Edwin “Babyface” Dewees, a veteran fighter with twenty wins by first round submissions. Dewees plans to capitalize on his experience and increase this submission record against the up-and-coming Leben. Koscheck, coming off two impressive UFC victories, was praised by the coaches of The Ultimate Fighter for his raw talent and superior wrestling skills. He will take on Drew “The Master” Fickett, a much more experienced opponent with extremely well-rounded fighting skills. Prior to the live fights, Spike TV will air a new episode of UFC Unleashed™ at 7:00pm ET/PT, featuring previous bouts never before seen on basic cable including UFC heavyweight champion Andrei Arlovski vs. Vladimir Matyushenko and winner of The Ultimate Fighter 1 finale Forrest Griffin vs. Bill Mahood. A hard-hitting edition of Ultimate Knockouts™ will then follow at 8:00pm. A new episode of The Ultimate Fighter™ 2 will directly follow the live event at 11:00pm ET/PT. The Ultimate Fighter 2 airs on Spike TV Mondays at 11:00pm ET/PT featuring 18 of the best up-and-coming mixed martial arts fighters in the world. UFC Middleweight Champion Rich Franklin, and UFC Welterweight Champion Matt Hughes, are the coaches for Season 2. UFC President Dana White serves as host. Executive Producers of “Ultimate Fight Night” are Frank Fertitta III, Lorenzo Fertitta and Dana White. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 4, 2005 Prelim Results: Welterweight Bout - Jonathan Goulet VS Jay Hieron: Goulet by doctor's stoppage (Hieron was winning, reportedly) Middleweight Bout - Brock Larson VS Jon Fitch: Fitch by Judges Decision (Fitch was dominant) Welterweight Bout - Thiago Alves VS Spencer Fisher: Fisher by Triangle, RD 2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 Fabiano Scherner [257] (5-1) vs. Brandon Vera [225] (4-0) Are these guys any good? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 4, 2005 They both are from what I'e heard/read. But haven't seen, so I can't be 100% sure. I've heard alot of good things about Scherner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 Wow I cannot believe that Leben won with the armbar! I thought he was nothing but a standup guy with good ground defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angel_Grace_Blue 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 I didn't see the very beginning, so who's dried blood is that all over the mat? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 Prelim fights? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angel_Grace_Blue 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 Probably. Well, now some of it is Tanner's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angel_Grace_Blue 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 Double post just for the fact that Tanner got all bloodified. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 4, 2005 Well, that sucked. Not because that was a bad card, because it was good, but I just couldn't watch Tanner lose again. My full thoughts later, but the show was good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 God I hate the pussification of the rear mount in MMA. Oh, and Koscheck is already almost as good as Diego, bad break or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 Koscheck is BETTER than Diego. Diego would probably get killed by Fickett. I went to see the fight at Champs last night, they marked out huge for each elbow thrown out by Loiseau in the guard. When he said something like this is for all the people at Champs at Montreal, the place went nuts. I heard Hieron's fight was disgusting, so I want to see it naturally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 And what pussification do you speak of? No strikes to the back of the head? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 4, 2005 I think Diego has better ground and pound at this point. Though I don't think he could keep Fickett (relatively) still like Koscheck did for the first round and first three minutes of each the second and the third, as he's got alot of good movement from the bottom. Fickett was just awesome at pulling guard, but I don't think Kos was quite sure how to get mount or how to really pound out from the guard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 4, 2005 Show did a 1.6 via Meltzer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 Is that good or bad? Diego wouldn't be able to get Fickett down in the first place. He'd get GnP'ed himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 As it is, I think Diego is still a slightly better WW based simply on his submission skills (which are legit) and aggressiveness, whereas Koscheck is still a bit too apprehensive. Koscheck already has comparable positioning skills up top, but as Josh himself said, he should have never let go Fickett so far into the match as to catch him with that knee. Anyways, the rear mount hase been completely nerfed, and is hardly the dominant position it once was. The introduction of gloves has made it very hard to slip a hand under an opponent's chin who's actively defending. This of course wouldn't be as big of a problem if they hadn't removed strieks to the back of the head and spiking elbows. Spiking elbows can be argued as too dangerous, but when all you can throw from the rear mount are little from-the-side punches, it's going to be a lot easier for the guy on the bottom to shake those blows off and focus simply on defending the choke. Loiseau, Gomi & Fedor are all guys who have taken advantage of this and see that giving up one's back is now not even as bad as being mounted. On a side note, Loiseau's average takedown defense & penchant for giving up his back leads me to believe Penn could defeat him very easily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 I really enjoyed the show. The opener was mainly Koscheck GnPing, but both guys were active enough for the first two rounds for it not to be boring. The finish definitely was the highlight, with the big upset and Koscheck going into shock. The heavyweight fight was pretty poor for the first round, with the two just looking at each other for most of it (which tends to be a staple of the heavyweight division) but the second round had the KNEES~! In particular the repetitive knees to the body which really won the fight. 2 fights, two matches with more psychology than anything on Monday Night Raw (I didn't see Raw, I am just guessing... I guess I guess right) Then there was a loooong delay for Leben/Dewees. It got more hype than the main event. But I liked the interviews they did with Hughes, Franklin, NATE~! building up to the next PPV. Oh wait, I'm sorry. The next PPV is UFC 55. UFC 56 had more promotion than UFC 55, so it seems UFC is gonna put their heads down and just take a poor number than trying to salvage the Friday PPV. (I'll still get it). You know what makes for a popular fighter? Saying you are going to do something, and then doing it. Chris Leben doesn't do this. He talks and he talks and he talks about knocking someone out, and so far, he doesn't get it done. So why should I look forward to Leben fighting? Chuck Liddell says he is going to knockout his opponents, and for the past few years, he's been spot-on. Though I liked the fight with Dewees, I have to say Leben doesn't do himself any favours promising the knockouts and failing to deliver. The Main Event, IMO, was great. Tanner and Loiseau aren't my FAVOURITE fighters, but I like them a lot more than any wrestler right now. I wanted Loiseau to win, partly because I think he's an exciting fighter (not that Tanner isn't), partly because him vs. Franklin would rule, and partly because he's Canadian. I loved the story of the match and the notion that Loiseaus elbows are finishers. Tanner took most of the first round off the takedowns and GnP, but the few seconds that Loiseau had in control, it was clear that if he ever *did* get positional advantage, Tanner would be FUCKED. I do sorta wonder why Tanner didn't blast Loiseau when he had his back mounted. Maybe it's a Russian thing, cause Fedor and Vovchanchyn have done that very well. Loiseau may quickly become a fan favourite on the basis of his kicks. Hey, notice there were no sponsors thanked Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 Hey, notice there were no sponsors thanked smile.gif Nobody wants to see the fighter pull out a list while he is getting interviewed by Joe Rogen after the fight. Its ok for them to have Xyience, Tapout, Fairex, Badboy, etc imprinted on their ass but nobody wants to hear them shrill GNC products after the fight. They can do the NASCAR shrill of wearing t-shirts, caps and drinking their fav protein drink while celebrating the victory but don't say "I want to thank god, my trainers, Goodyear, Toyo Tires, Powerade...." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2005 You know what makes for a popular fighter? Saying you are going to do something, and then doing it. Chris Leben doesn't do this. He talks and he talks and he talks about knocking someone out, and so far, he doesn't get it done. So why should I look forward to Leben fighting? Chuck Liddell says he is going to knockout his opponents, and for the past few years, he's been spot-on. Though I liked the fight with Dewees, I have to say Leben doesn't do himself any favours promising the knockouts and failing to deliver.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> To be fair, this time Fratboy did apologize for it. And I suppose that if a guy is asking for you to try and armbar him, you might as well try. Still, I figure that Leben remains "popular" because people are waiting for him to get knocked out... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2005 Sorry if this is an ignorant comment, but I was flipping through the channels and caught a bit of this and the knees that Brandon Vera delivered to the face of the Brazilian guy to stop the fight had me gasping and pretty pumped. Is this a normal outcome? I haven't watched UFC since the days of Shamrock, Severn and Kimo, so I'm not sure what it's like anymore. I was certainly entertained by that bout, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2005 Quite a few guys can throw some good knees in the Thai clinch (hell, even Ken managed to KO Kimo with one), but Vera's was definitely one of the most beautiful knees since Jermaine Andre faceplanted from a well-placed Lance Gibson knee. If you like spectacular KO's, the last UFC had a pair of very impressive KO's by Tim Sylvia & james Irvin, and of course the UFC has an Ultimate Knockouts series on DVD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2005 Knees are more common in PRIDE, with Chute Boxe doing particularly well with them. (Wanderlei Silva kneeing Quinton Jackson 17 times comes to mind) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites