Guest rawmvp Report post Posted October 5, 2005 I'm going to go out on a limb and say RVD. When he returns in January, it will be a year since he was injured, so I expect the fans to really rally behind him like never before...so much so, that Vince decides to have him win the match and go on to WrestleMania to defeat whomever is champion. What do you guys think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMann2003 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 Oh Ho ho ho, I needed a laugh...good one Oh, you're serious...well, can't blame you for dreaming *snicker* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 What do you guys think? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think you're on drugs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest *KNK* Report post Posted October 5, 2005 I believe you have been hanging out to closely to RVD. It's October and too early to really start dicussing who will/should win the rumble. I'd perfer, if anything a HEEL to win it. Orton is facing Batista @ Mania and I wouldn't put it past them to give a Rumble win to Orton for "credibility" although Orton doesn't need a rumble win because he is SD's top heel alongside JBL and already has the backstory with Batista. If we are doing "what we want", then I want CM Punk to go 64 minutes and win the rumble as a bloody mess and win whichever title as the main event in his hometown of Chicago but that isn't happening even in my own dreams. Just give us something not expected. Fuck, Mysterio should win it. It's not that hard to change the "winner main events Mania" stipulation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 Fuck, Mysterio should win it. It's not that hard to change the "winner main events Mania" stipulation. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Or keep the stip, have a Mysterio win it but then get screwed out of the title shot at the PPV before WM 22 so that, win or lose, the guy who got screwed out of the title shot as a ready made program post-WM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 Triple H Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest rawmvp Report post Posted October 5, 2005 Well, everybody thought Orton was winning the Rumble up until early December, when Batista unexpectedly became a sensation and ended up winning the thing. I still think that the support for RVD is going to be off the charts when he returns, causing Vince to finally cave in and push him. Competition (UFC, TNA) compels Vince to do what the fans want, not what he wants. But, we'll see... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest *KNK* Report post Posted October 5, 2005 Fuck, Mysterio should win it. It's not that hard to change the "winner main events Mania" stipulation. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Or keep the stip, have a Mysterio win it but then get screwed out of the title shot at the PPV before WM 22 so that, win or lose, the guy who got screwed out of the title shot as a ready made program post-WM. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's precisely where i was going with it. It's not like they haven't put the title shot on the line before in the PPV before Mania...So have Rey upset the world by winning the rumble and then Rey, being the plucky underdog with WAY to much confidence now, accept a challenge from 3 other guys (Eddy, Orton and Benoit, hypothetically) and The whole story is that Rey's luck can't strike twice but damned if he doesn't come close but Orton wins it because clearly Orton is the guy for Batista @ Mania. Orton wins because of his "destiny" or whatever cheesy cliche they wish to use this time around. The story is already there, so it doesn't need 3 months of hype when one month would suffice. Since Hogan/Austin has to main event WM22, they shouldn't even announce it as "winner gets WM main event spot" and simply change the wording to "winner gets title shot". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 5, 2005 Hell, GIVE Misterio the shot. Why the hell not? He's over, he can churn out great matches, and he clicks well with SD's best performers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 HHH wins and goes onto dethrone Cena and all is right with the world...or something like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest *KNK* Report post Posted October 5, 2005 Well, everybody thought Orton was winning the Rumble up until early December, when Batista unexpectedly became a sensation and ended up winning the thing. I still think that the support for RVD is going to be off the charts when he returns, causing Vince to finally cave in and push him. Competition (UFC, TNA) compels Vince to do what the fans want, not what he wants. But, we'll see... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> RVD's popularity was leap frogging off the charts in 2001 and Vince didn't do a damn thing there. RVD will never reach that heigh again and it's foolish to make up for it now because the magic of 2001 can't be duplicated. There's no need to go over this again, RVD's window of opportunity was effectively shut in 2002. He'll always be over, that's not even cause for debate but Hurricane is always over but you don't see anyone with a clue clamoring for Hurricane to win the rumble and main event Mania. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest *KNK* Report post Posted October 5, 2005 Hell, GIVE Misterio the shot. Why the hell not? He's over, he can churn out great matches, and he clicks well with SD's best performers. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Considering that Triple H/Cena and Austin/Hogan would over-shadow it anyways... Batista Vs Mysterio would just be a nifty ass match that the crowd would eat up because the crowd loves a plucky underdog and Rey's the most legitimate one out there with a huge fanbase. I'd just have Batista be a dick during the match because he doesn't believe Rey is that good but naturally Rey stuns him and takes him to the limit and Batista gets the win. I know Batista/Mysterio sounds like an epic mis-match but I assure you the crowd would give a shit more for that then RKO/Batista EVOLUTION ERUPTS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 Who I want to win: RVD Who will win: Orton... or the Masterpiece Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FromBeyondTheGrave Report post Posted October 5, 2005 1. Randy Orton. 2. John Cena. (Loses the title before the Rumble, obviously.) 3. Bobby Lashley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Y2DAYDAY Report post Posted October 5, 2005 In response to the person saying Orton vs Batista is actually happening at Mania, well, it may but who knows for now. I sort of expect Orton vs Batista to start after Survivor Series and hell, it may go through Mania but I'm sure WWE really isn't sure what they are doing with Smackdown ME at Mania yet.. I think it is obvious Cena vs HHH is coming in 06, just a matter of Rumble, Mania, or both. I can't see Hogan vs Austin cause Austin won't do the job and ditto for Hogan, unless he can find a way to spin losing, which will be harder this time around. Basically, no one knows. If I had to guess, I'd go with HHH winning the Rumble and them teasing him going after Batista or Orton at Mania but then wrestling Cena. People will hate this but a Taker or Hogan win wouldn't shock me either if they go Hogan vs Cena or Taker vs Batista(Batista's reign vs Taker's streak as the hook) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest rawmvp Report post Posted October 5, 2005 Well, everybody thought Orton was winning the Rumble up until early December, when Batista unexpectedly became a sensation and ended up winning the thing. I still think that the support for RVD is going to be off the charts when he returns, causing Vince to finally cave in and push him. Competition (UFC, TNA) compels Vince to do what the fans want, not what he wants. But, we'll see... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> RVD's popularity was leap frogging off the charts in 2001 and Vince didn't do a damn thing there. RVD will never reach that heigh again and it's foolish to make up for it now because the magic of 2001 can't be duplicated. There's no need to go over this again, RVD's window of opportunity was effectively shut in 2002. He'll always be over, that's not even cause for debate but Hurricane is always over but you don't see anyone with a clue clamoring for Hurricane to win the rumble and main event Mania. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The only reason why Steve Austin became wrestling's biggest star was because Vince McMahon was forced -- by very threatening competition -- to give the fans what they wanted. If Austin came around in 2001, he would've been buried unceremoniously just like RVD was. Otherwise, Vince hates wrestlers who have the gall to make themselves stars. If he can't control you and come up with your gimmick and decide to push you on his own, then you're not going anywhere. This isn't more evident than when he has no competition. And in 2001, he had no competition, and thereby didn't have his hand forced to give the fans what they were clamoring for. However, now that UFC and TNA are burgeoning entities, there's a chance that Vince will begrudgingly do what's right for business and put his own personal interests aside. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Y2DAYDAY Report post Posted October 5, 2005 However, WWE is winning, to say the least, this war. When he went with Austin, he was losing the war. They'll push RVD but not that strong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest rawmvp Report post Posted October 5, 2005 Going by Vince's decision to blow his load for RAW:homecoming and squander millions of PPV revenue in the process, I think he's more paranoid than ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dumb Monkey Report post Posted October 5, 2005 Rob Van Dam has as much of a chance at winning the royal rumble as Paul London. Reality check: RVD is never getting a real push. Not today, not tomorrow, not next week, not next year. Never. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 The mystery entry...Jericho! Oh man, that's just as unrealistic as RVD. Seriously though, I say Orton takes it to face Batista. It's sorta weird though, because I'm expecting Batista to keep it for a full year. Insanity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 Angelic Diablo. After everyone jumps from the ring in fear of him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 I don't think creative even knows who is winning the Rumble. Remember, they don't do long term booking and shit changes even on a weekly basis with WWE. The person who is going to win the 2006 Royal Rumble will be whoever is at or near the ME scene who is hot. That's about the best educated guess I can give right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 Seriously though, I say Orton takes it to face Batista. It's sorta weird though, because I'm expecting Batista to keep it for a full year. Insanity. I actually think keeping the belt on Batista that long is a good thing. Batista is better as a reigning champion fighting off all comers, not chasing the title. Cena is the guy I think is better chasing, but this discussion has been done already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 The Undertaker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cacheton Report post Posted October 5, 2005 Orton/Batista isn't good enough for a Mania, I think. It has to be either Taker or someone who gets ridiculously over (Lashley, Kennedy) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scroby 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 HHH wins and goes onto dethrone Cena and all is right with the world...or something like that. You mean HHH's ego right? Thats pretty much the world according to HHH anyways. As big as a RVD fan as I am, if you think for one second RVD will main event a Wrestlemania anytime soon, you better be a brand new fan of the WWE. Besides didn't you just predict Jericho winning the rumble this year RAWMVP? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 Orton/Batista isn't good enough for a Mania, I think. It has to be either Taker or someone who gets ridiculously over (Lashley, Kennedy) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Orton/Batista would be good enough for WM considering EVERYTHING will be overshadowed by Austin/Hogan...it really won't matter what championship matches they throw out there... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silence 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 Angelic Diablo. After everyone jumps from the ring in fear of him. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> WWE's going to try to turn Matt Hardy into the new "Crow" Sting? It would be even more laughable and sad if WWE actually went all out by making him wear black and white facepaint, a black trenchcoat, and had him hitting the other wrestlers with a black baseball bat during the Rumble. I don't think WWE would have Hardy lowered from the ceiling though, due to the Owen incident from 1999, of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 I could see either Orton or Cena taking it, assuming Cena loses the strap to HHH prior to that point. Plus, Cena has last year's incident still in the back of his mind and could use that to further motivate this win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites