EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 Since Goldust is back and I'm guess the E is going to have him around for awhile. What do you think they should do with him? After TT they could ship him to SD to either team up or fight with Booker T. Since Booker's a heel and I'm guessing GD is going to stay a heel they could team up. Or they can have Goldie become a face and feud with Booker and build off of their past. Goldie could be pissed that after he was fired last time that Booker didn't call him up to see how he was doing, try to fight and help him keep his job, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 regardless of what he'll be doing, he's eating up a roster spot of other, more deserving wrestlers, no matter what show he ends up on... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fishyswa Report post Posted November 1, 2005 I can see him randomly thrown together with all the up and coming "straight man" heels a month at a time until he's gone. I'd like to see him run an angle where he takes credit for killing Goldberg's career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 No surprise, but still, from PWInsider: The word going around at Raw last night was that the returns of Goldust and Vader were done at the urging of new creative team member Dusty Rhodes. In the case of his son, that shouldn't come as much of surprise to anyone. In the case of Vader, well let's just say that it was noticed at the show that he was quite a bit larger around the midsection than he had been in the past. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fishyswa Report post Posted November 1, 2005 Vader might be taller laying down than standing up. It explains his problems with standing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest *KNK* Report post Posted November 1, 2005 regardless of what he'll be doing, he's eating up a roster spot of other, more deserving wrestlers, no matter what show he ends up on... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Goldust when motivated (as he was during his last stint) was a quality worker who was very over and was putting a steady flow of solid matches on Heat. He's past the stage of being a upper-card or even a mid-card player but he's still capable of playing the Val Venis role of working with the younger guys and making them look good. He's still very over especially when he's allowed to shine. They could do and are doing worse with others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 I didn't catch raw last night and haven't heard anything about Vader lately, can he still work? I'll admit, Goldust is the only way I've ever been able to tolerate Dustin Rhodes, but really, they're keeping Shelton off Raw for this??? Poor Shelton... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fishyswa Report post Posted November 1, 2005 Goldust vs Christian from Raw, I think, sometime in 02, is proof that Goldust can work when motivated. It was after he got engaged or something and they had a great 10 minute match that was as crisp and fluid as it gets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 regardless of what he'll be doing, he's eating up a roster spot of other, more deserving wrestlers, no matter what show he ends up on... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Goldust when motivated (as he was during his last stint) was a quality worker who was very over and was putting a steady flow of solid matches on Heat. He's past the stage of being a upper-card or even a mid-card player but he's still capable of playing the Val Venis role of working with the younger guys and making them look good. He's still very over especially when he's allowed to shine. They could do and are doing worse with others. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Right on the money. That's why I was pissed he got fired. He put on great matches, help get Booker T over again after the mess with the NWO and they pissed it all away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 Just as soon as I praise Dusty Rhodes for his SD booking I read this. I can't say I'm shocked about Dustin getting back on with WWE...but Vader?? Has there been any more arbitrary, out of nowhere comeback than that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 Have him be part of a comedy tag team with Vader where Vader stumbles and falls down all the time because he's too fat to balance himself and Goldust makes fun of him constantly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest *KNK* Report post Posted November 1, 2005 I didn't catch raw last night and haven't heard anything about Vader lately, can he still work? I'll admit, Goldust is the only way I've ever been able to tolerate Dustin Rhodes, but really, they're keeping Shelton off Raw for this??? Poor Shelton... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Vader is a shell of his former self. He ballooned up about 550 lbs and was completely incapable of keeping his balance (although it'd appeared he was paying tribute to Flair). He fell off the apron and onto his ass. Physically he's a wreck and every source i've seen indicates that his work in Japan has free fallen. I hear he can still marginally work, if anything he should be stuck in tag team environments if they must use him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest *KNK* Report post Posted November 1, 2005 regardless of what he'll be doing, he's eating up a roster spot of other, more deserving wrestlers, no matter what show he ends up on... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Goldust when motivated (as he was during his last stint) was a quality worker who was very over and was putting a steady flow of solid matches on Heat. He's past the stage of being a upper-card or even a mid-card player but he's still capable of playing the Val Venis role of working with the younger guys and making them look good. He's still very over especially when he's allowed to shine. They could do and are doing worse with others. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Right on the money. That's why I was pissed he got fired. He put on great matches, help get Booker T over again after the mess with the NWO and they pissed it all away. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Some could legitimately argue that Goldust was the most over babyface on the show in early 2003 after Shawn. That's how much they pissed it away. I'm not saying a Goldust title run should have been in the makings but canning the guy was pretty much a farce. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 Woah woah... Vader is ACTUALLY back? I just assumed he was there because he signed a Legends contract and could make paid appearance cameos (like the other Legends). Anyway, I say either give Goldust the IC title or send him to SmackDown! (since his current issue seems to be with Batista). Heel Bookdust vs. the now long term (according to the latest WON) team of Batista/Eddie = money. Maybe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 Some could legitimately argue that Goldust was the most over babyface on the show in early 2003 after Shawn. That's how much they pissed it away. I'm not saying a Goldust title run should have been in the makings but canning the guy was pretty much a farce. Yeah at the very least he could of had a run with the IC title. Oh wait a minute it was gone at that time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 I remember his IC title match with Jericho... that was really great and I actually thought Goldust could take it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest *KNK* Report post Posted November 1, 2005 Woah woah... Vader is ACTUALLY back? I just assumed he was there because he signed a Legends contract and could make paid appearance cameos (like the other Legends). Anyway, I say either give Goldust the IC title or send him to SmackDown! (since his current issue seems to be with Batista). Heel Bookdust vs. the now long term (according to the latest WON) team of Batista/Eddie = money. Maybe. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Speaking of which, is Eddy/Batista supposed to be a remake of the Mega-Powers? (in the sense of two top babyfaces, one being the world champ and the other being a former champion) I wouldn't oppose to Batista snapping and turning on Eddy and building that to a Mania match up but that would get in the way of Orton's push so we can't have that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 Just for reference: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 Vader and Goldust? I might have to watch. It's Team '96. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 Well near as I can tell, it was supposed to be a short term team with the obvious Eddie turn, but Eddie got too over as a babyface again. Meltzer referred to the post-Series teaming as "movie buddies" (?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 I'm glad to see Goldust back, but I can't say the same for Vader (even though I used to love the guy) seeing how he has turned out now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 Just for reference: <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Afterwards he should of looked into the camera and say that he's a fat piece of shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Only The Strong Survive 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 Why hire dead weight like Goldust, Vader, and these "legends" when we could be building up our current crop of stars? Even guys like Eugene, Conway, and Masters with their limited, retarded gimmicks (no pun intended) need to get the rub, and finding these obscure workers is cool for the smart crowd, but they're killing their business long term and they don't seem to realize it. We need to start building stars now so that, in five years, when guys like Michaels, Angle, and Undertaker can't work, we'll have an established upper-card (Batista, Orton, etc.) and a solid mid-card filled with some of the wrestlers were seeing now. So, in short, Goldust should be released after Taboo Tuesday. Period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 I agree! I say anyone who was around in any way at all pre-1997 should be fired, never to return. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest *KNK* Report post Posted November 1, 2005 Why hire dead weight like Goldust, Vader, and these "legends" when we could be building up our current crop of stars? Even guys like Eugene, Conway, and Masters with their limited, retarded gimmicks (no pun intended) need to get the rub, and finding these obscure workers is cool for the smart crowd, but they're killing their business long term and they don't seem to realize it. We need to start building stars now so that, in five years, when guys like Michaels, Angle, and Undertaker can't work, we'll have an established upper-card (Batista, Orton, etc.) and a solid mid-card filled with some of the wrestlers were seeing now. So, in short, Goldust should be released after Taboo Tuesday. Period. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Goldust isn't exactly deadweight when he has proven to still be a good worker and very much capable of getting over. There's nothing wrong with having veterans in the mid-card to balance things out and educate the younger workers. It's a old staple of the business and Goldust fits that bill. However people like Vader aren't doing any favors for the company by being so completely out of shape and incapable of standing up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 I agree. I don't mind Goldust being back. It appears he can still work and is in good shape. He can do comedy really well...hell, my wife thought he was hillarious when he was teaming with Booker T, and she's barely a wrestling fan at all. Vader looked awful though, and it's a shame because I used to be a big fan of the guy. Maybe if he had a few months to train, he could've come back and not embarassed himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 I just hope that Goldust isn't suffering from his post-electrocution disorder anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 Have him be part of a comedy tag team with Vader where Vader stumbles and falls down all the time because he's too fat to balance himself and Goldust makes fun of him constantly. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's actually brilliant, dude. You got me laughing out loud over here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 I just hope that Goldust isn't suffering from his post-electrocution disorder anymore. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Time to get revenge on Randy Orton and Batista! I think the only good thing for Goldust to do right now is comedy tag team with the retard Eugene or worst case scenario have him put over the green rookies, again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 Have him be part of a comedy tag team with Vader where Vader stumbles and falls down all the time because he's too fat to balance himself and Goldust makes fun of him constantly. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They should win the tag titles at Royal Rumble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites