MMA FAQ

[razazteca 0]

UFC needs more powerbomb/slam finishes like the Hughes/Newton, Lindland/Vitale, early Dan Severn fights.

[Damaramu 0]

What's the difference between Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and Jiu-Jitsu?

 

I've seen Gracie fight. I've seen like the first five UFC's but I haven't seen then since like right after they came out on video.

 

I honestly wouldn't be interested in this stuff if I wasn't training in Judo and Jiu-Jitsu. And honestly I'm not interested in learning to do any kind of MMA competition. I'm mostly doing it for fun, maybe a few judo tournaments, and I think it's a great thing to dedicate myself to.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

If you're interested in Judo, you should watch Karo Parisyan fight The guy tries to bust out a throw or two in his matches.

 

I am not 100% sure on the details of what differs Japanese Jiu Jitsu from Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, or more accurately Gracie Jiu Jitsu, but I'll speak on it nonetheless . Gracie Jiu Jitsu is founded on the principle of being either smaller or weaker than your opponent, but using your opponents power and leverage against him. Ah fuck it, here's a link...

 

http://bjj.org/rma-faq.html

 

http://bjj.org/ in general is a good site for information, techniques and pictures.

[AboveAverage484 0]

Takada dropped Rickson with a knee, that's all I'll say about the Gracies' stand-up.

 

The new generation of Gracies however, are more than adequate at stand-up.

[Damaramu 0]

Takada dropped Rickson with a knee, that's all I'll say about the Gracies' stand-up.

 

The new generation of Gracies however, are more than adequate at stand-up.

 

Yeah but against some dude mugging him on the street....he'd eat the guy for lunch.

[razazteca 0]

Ok so Gracie Jiu-Jitsu is all about the guard position with heavy emphasis on submissions and chokes. What are the other popular Brazilian styles other than Gracie Jiu-Jitsu, what is Machodo Jiu-Jitsu, Luta Livre, and how important is Marco Ruas to the sport of Vale Tudo/MMA?

[AboveAverage484 0]

Takada dropped Rickson with a knee, that's all I'll say about the Gracies' stand-up.

 

The new generation of Gracies however, are more than adequate at stand-up.

 

Yeah but against some dude mugging him on the street....he'd eat the guy for lunch.

 

I don't think you understood what I read. NOBUHIKO TAKADA dropped him with a knee.

[Damaramu 0]

Ok who is Takada? Surely he's better than some dude on the street.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Takada had great stand up... in UWF-i.

 

Vale Tudo in Brazil has been going on for decades, but I haven't seen or heard much on it.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

A brief, certainly not comprehensive, recommendations for PRIDE shows. Not all of these are top to bottom cards, the ones that are weaker in terms of action tend to historically important. These are sorta manditory PRIDEs to see.

 

PRIDE 10: This show has some brutal knockouts, some crazy brawls, and a solid fight between Sakuraba and Renzo. Good show top to bottom, but is moving down the list of best PRIDE shows each and every year.

 

PRIDE 12: My buddy saw this show a few years ago and made him an instant fan. Silva/Hendo is really good. I can't really remember most of this show, but I do Silva/Hendo being worth it.

 

PRIDE 13: Stay away from Satake/Yasuda. For the love of god stay away. Historically important in that it has Silva vs. Sakuraba. Vovchanchyn vs. Telligman is a good stand up fight, and you get a bunch of good quick wins. Only one match goes to a decision, and you must STAY AWAY from that match.

 

PRIDE 14: Matsui/Pele is real good, I recall Schembris fight being good and technical, Mezger/Chuck is good with a superb KO, Hendo/Shoji and Takayama/Fujita had their moments. It's been a few years since I've seen this in full, but there's enough here to warrant a buy. Not notable or integral viewing, but you do get to see Chuck fight in PRIDE.

 

PRIDE 15 was the first full PRIDE card that I saw on PPV. It has some near iconic moments and has some historic moments. You see Rampage and Nog debut, and their bouts fail to disappoint. Herring/Kerr is worth watching the boring 99% of the fight to get to that 1% really, really exciting part. Satake/Vovchancyn and Ismail/Oyama were pretty good. Sak vs. Rampage is tremendous.

 

PRIDE 16: I haven't seen this one in-full, but I imagine Goodridge/Yatsu was brutal (since their first fight was), Ninja/Matsui is sick as was Shilt/Shoji, and Nog/Coleman helps build Nogs legacy.

 

PRIDE 17: Nog/Herring is a really active fight, especially for heavyweights, and is one of the better heavyweight fights you'll see. It has some fun quick matches, Hendo/Ninja is always good to watch. This is historically important as they decide their middleweight and heavyweight champions here.

 

PRIDE 19: Steibling/Wallid was good, Newton/Pele was tremendous, Herring/Igor was really good as was Nog/Enson, Silva/Tamura ended very brutally, and lots of people like Frye/Shamrock.

 

PRIDE 20: One of my personal faves, Ninja/Sperry and Hendo/Arona are both top notch fights. You get Cro Cop/Silva which is more of a clash of personalities than a great overall fight, but it does have its moments and is worth watching. Bob Sapp debuts, and Rampage breaks out.

 

PRIDE 21: Frye/Takayama is mainly the reason you get this. It's a hockey fight. The dirtiest of all dirty boxing. Takayamas face transforms. Plus you get Fedors debut, which isn't a great match, but you see Fedor work a very effective strategy against the much taller Schilt... lots of decisions here, though.

 

PRIDE Shockwave - PRIDE vs. K1 PPV. Sapp vs. Noguiera is required viewing.

 

I think you already ordered 23.

 

PRIDE 24: Nog/Hendo is my buddies favourite fight. Better than Nog/Herring. Worth seeing (or get a Nog comp)

 

PRIDE 26: Fedor/Fujita is awesome, I don't care. Fucking exciting. Schembri/Hamanaka is ok, Takase/Silva has an amazing finish, and the rest of the show should be called "liver shot".

 

PRIDE TE 03: Fedor looks great, Chuck/Overeem is short but competitive, Jackson/Busta was good, Nog/Ricco was ok, Cro Cop/Igor.. well.. you've probably seen it several times... Yoshida/Tamura had the crowd heat, and Silva gives a picture perfect finish.

 

PRIDE FC 03: Cro Cop/Nog was my 03 FOTY, another Sapp/Nog, but brutal..er... Jackson/Liddell was actually really good stand up battle, Yoshida/Silva was good and had a very hot crowd, and the finals has 17 knees.

 

Pride Shockwave 03: haven't seen all of this, but I heard Nog/Sak was very good, Yoshida/Royce is historical, Minowa/Jackson was a good return fight for Rampage, and it has some big finishes.

 

PRIDE TE 04: A lot of quick finishes, only one fight goes out of the first round, but some classic finishes. Randleman/Cro Cop, Ninja/Kharitonov, Fedor/Coleman, and Nog/Yokoi is very good.

 

PRIDE CC 04: POWERBOMB!~ TEA BAGGIN~! ANACONDA CHOKE~! FEDOR DIE~?

 

PRIDE FC 04: Nakamura/Busta was enjoyable... for me at least, I <3 The Nak... Nog/Kharitonov was very active, very good, Silva SMASH, Silva STOMP, Cro Cop kills Fedors brother... Fedor must get revenge. Finals are disappointing...

 

PRIDE Shockwave 04: One of the best PRIDEs of all time. Gomi/Pulver, Silva/Hunt, Nog/Fedor are 3 terrific, awesome, stupendular fights. And Chonan/Silva is sweet.

 

BUSHIDO 7: This is when they start to perfect their Bushidos. Hell, I'd say it was worth watching *just* for Charles Bennetts pre fight, fight, and post fight antics. Made me an instant fan. Great knockouts throughout. One has a stunning high kick finish. Lots of people liked Baroni/Minowa. Gomi/Azeredo is really good.

 

PRIDE CC 05: Kharitonov delivers, Rua/Nog is a FOTYC, action packed and goes everywhere, Arona/Sak is kinda disturbing.

 

BUSHIDO 8: Thomson is awesome, Kang/Semenov was good, HANSEN~!!! DEBUTS~!!! Better knee than the one on UNO!~, Kawajiris second fight, starts weak finishes strong, Gomi/Silva is one-sided but fun, Gomi shows how good he is here.

 

PRIDE FC 05: Fedor/Cro Cop. This is something that, like Fedor/Nog, needs to be viewed with historical perspective. I really, really, REALLY enjoyed this show. Mainly cause my favourites won. Shogun rules.

 

BUSHIDO THE TOURNAMENT: I am slowly rewatching this, and I don't care, I am still going to splooge all over this. Best show I've ever, ever, ever, ever seen. A must-have. Everything just works (cept Minowa/Baroni). The production is tremendous, I love the way they do the pre-fight interviews which are full of quotables and personality, Mauro and Bas are GOOD? This show is STACKED.

[Lei Tong 0]

How in the hell could you leave out Body Blow?

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

I should probably have said this was for a guy on another board who requested "must see" shows after already getting Pride 23 and Pride 25, which is why they weren't on the list.

 

PRIDE 23: Not so much a great card in and of itself, what PRIDE 23 does to is provide an excellent build to PRIDE 25. This was Fedors coming out party, where he showed brutal punches from the guard that disfigured Heath Herrings face. Herring was never dominated this badly in PRIDE before. Herring was the only guy in PRIDE to this point to had gone the distance with Noguiera, and for him to get stopped so quickly and so easily by Fedor said something about the Russians ability. Meanwhile, the PRIDE champion was continuing his winning ways by defeating the giant Semmy Schilt. The look on Nogs face afterwards, as he smiles and sticks out his tongue cockily as if to say "I knew it all along", is the perfect image of this confident champion.

 

This also has the "controversial" Frye/Yoshida match which many think was a work so judge for yourself, it has Takadas retirement match (which is not a good match, but does have it's moments - Takada taking one in the junk, Takada getting KTFO.. poor Takada), it has Randleman break out the AWESOME skyscraper knees, and Silva squashes another Japanese fighter.

 

PRIDE 25: One of the best PRIDE cards of all time, the best one IMO up to that point in PRIDEs history. Fedor/Nog is just EPIC and drenched in history. You get some killer knockouts from Jackson/Randleman, Silva/Newton, Hendo/Oyama, and Schembri/Sakuraba. Steibling/Shoji is a really good fight, very competitive, and Nog/Nakamura is a good technical battle. The ending of Jackson/Randleman with Silva stepping in the ring is exciting as shit. The commentary is top-notch, the best from Quadros and Rutten and probably the best commentary job that I've ever heard. The pre-fight interview with Jackson and Randleman is hilarious "I'm kinda angry that he's here, man, I thought I was the only token black fighter in PRIDE".

[AboveAverage484 0]

Top ten Pride fights for a newb to watch (in chronological order):

 

Newton/Matsui (Pride 6)

Silva/Mezger (Pride 10)

Goodridge/Yatsu (Pride 11)

Silva/Henderson (Pride 12)

Ninja/Matsui (Pride 16)

Nogueira/Herring (Pride 17)

Newton/Pele (Pride 19)

Ninja/Sperry (Pride 20)

Frye/Takayama (Pride 21)

Nogueira/Sapp (Shockwave)

[Damaramu 0]

Ok I still don't know who Takada is or why it was bad he took Gracie down.

 

Also anybody ever watch the Ultimate Fighter? I just rented season 1 and I hear it's good.

 

Also Ortiz had a couple of fights after Liddell right? How did he fare?

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

Takada was a pro wrestler turned fighter whose only wins are either against people who never really fought or were works. So you can see why it's really embarrassing to get dropped by him. When RIckson was asked why he didn't take on the top fighters of the time like Kerr or Erikson or Igor, he simply stated that he felt that Takada was most deserving of a match. This was AFTER he beat him the first time by the way. There's a reason why he never stepped up to Sakuraba.

 

First season of TUF was definitely better than the second, as it had better drama and more interesting characters, though most of the fights on the second season were better. With the inclusion of Ortiz and Shammy in the third installment, I expect it to be the best. I'm one of the few Ortiz marks left, I really hope that he makes a comeback of sorts this year.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Nobuhiko Takada was a Japanese pro wrestler who had success in the 80's and 90's. He is the head of Takada Dojo, which is Sakuraba's fight camp. Takada founded the UWF-i which was one of the best worked shoot promotions you'll see that had Vader as its champion at one point in time. UWF-i was very successful for a short period, and it is said the UWF-i/New Japan feud was the inspiration for the NWO. UWF-i wasn't the tradition wrestling federation, in its early days it didn't have pinfalls, but rather, worked on a point system, and there were KO's and submissions.

 

Takada himself was the main star of the promotion and presented as a top fighter, who could beat anyone either standing up or with submissions. He was awesome and built up a reputation of being a legit martial artist. In his worked fights he showed tremendous stand up, some of the best you'll see out of a pro wrestler. If you went by his UWF-i matches, you'd think Takada was one of the best fighters ever. It should also be noted that Takada took liberties from time to time with his opponents, shooting on them within the wrestling matches.

 

When PRIDE began, they used Takada's reputation and popularity and had him facing off against Rickson Gracie (they managed to get, reportedly, 40,000 in the Tokyo Dome). The fighting Takada was much different from the Pro Wrestling Takada, he was much more timid and certainly not as impressive. That confident stand up was pretty much gone, and the ground game was non-existent. It was fitting for Rickson to defeat him by Armbar, since that was one of Takadas favourite moves. Takadas fights in PRIDE were mostly farces, his win over Coleman is widely considered a work as was his fight vs. Otsuka (when there's a fisherman suplex, yeah, its worked), he had one of the worst fights you'll ever see against Royce Gracie, \and he lost his last fight via KO to Kiyoshi Tamura - one of Takadas rivals in UWF-i.

 

TUF 1 is very good, and has some quality fights.

 

Ortiz fought 2 fights after his loss to Liddell. Both fights he won by decision. His first fight was against Partick Cote, a Canadian fighter, and other than getting rocked in the early stages of the fight, Tito dominated but was unable to put away a fighter he probably should have finished (to Cotes credit, he can take a shot). His second fight was against Vitor Belfort, they were supposed to fight for the title at UFC 33 but Vitor got injured. The first round of the fight was very exciting, and the fight overall was a good one. I think Belfort won it, if that's worth anything.

[Guest Brian]

For those who have been message-boarding for some time, what are the origins of "Rickson by armbar"? I think I missed it during my internet hiatus.

[AboveAverage484 0]

For those who have been message-boarding for some time, what are the origins of "Rickson by armbar"? I think I missed it during my internet hiatus.

 

It's just some smart ass remark that has far outlived it's usefulness. It was funny the first time we saw it, not the 116,679,457 times after.

 

Example: Fedor vs. Zuluzhino at next Pride

 

Someone would reply: Rickson by armbar.

 

Now people say it when it has no relevance whatsoever.

 

Example: TUF 2 coaches announced.

 

Someone replies: Rickson by armbar.

 

Kind of like pwned.

[Lei Tong 0]

I honestly have no clue, as Rickson was always noted more for taking an opponent's back and slapping on a tight RNC.

 

I always preffered "Fabiano Iha invented the armbar."

Edited December 13, 2005 by Lei Tong

[starvenger 0]

I honestly have no clue, as Rickson was always noted more for taking an opponent's back and slapping on a tight RNC.

 

I always preffered "Fabiano Iha invented the armbar."

I guess that's the MMA equivalent to "Nova invented <insert move here>"?

[Damaramu 0]

I rented the first Ultimate Fighter DVD and it's pretty entertaining. I wish one of these guys would mouth off though and Chuck and Randy would say "shut your mouth or i'll shut it for you" b/c you know they can take any of the guys on this show...can't they?

[Lei Tong 0]

I honestly have no clue, as Rickson was always noted more for taking an opponent's back and slapping on a tight RNC.

 

I always preffered "Fabiano Iha invented the armbar."

I guess that's the MMA equivalent to "Nova invented <insert move here>"?

 

Whereas the quote in regards to Nova seems to be a sort of snyde comment regarding Nova's "innovator" status, the saying about Fabiano comes from the fact that though Fabiano (obviously) did not invent the armbar, he utilizes it so often and performs the move so well that it's practically "his" move .

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

Unless he's fighting Kaoru Uno.

 

Speaking of which, what's the right pronunciation of his name, and why do people have the wrong one?

[Lei Tong 0]

I just refer to him as Charles McRad and avoid the issue altogether.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

I've heard CAR-RUE and COW as ways to pronounce the name but Charles McRad is way better and would make for an awesome t-shirt.

[starvenger 0]

I honestly have no clue, as Rickson was always noted more for taking an opponent's back and slapping on a tight RNC.

 

I always preffered "Fabiano Iha invented the armbar."

I guess that's the MMA equivalent to "Nova invented <insert move here>"?

 

Whereas the quote in regards to Nova seems to be a sort of snyde comment regarding Nova's "innovator" status, the saying about Fabiano comes from the fact that though Fabiano (obviously) did not invent the armbar, he utilizes it so often and performs the move so well that it's practically "his" move .

Ah, so it's more akin to the ArmDragon joke that Keith and others use for Ricky Steamboat.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

Well I've also seen two different spellings, like kaoru and caol. A MAN MUST KNOW.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

I've only seen it spelt Caol in the UFC.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

His website says Caol

[Damaramu 0]

When does TUF 3 start?

 

And why did TUF 2 suck?